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Barnsley residents only for town's tips

Wednesday December 14 2016

Barnsley Council has approved the plans Barnsley Council has approved the plans

BARNSLEY COUNCIL has approved plans to introduce a scheme where only Barnsley residents can use the town's tips. 

The council approved the plans this morning (December 14) saying it had noticed an increase in people using Barnsley's tips since neighbouring towns reduced the opening hours of their sites.

Under the plans, residents visiting a tip will be issued with a car window sticker by site staff when they show a valid vehicle registration document (V5) that shows registration in the Barnsley area.

Any vehicle where the driver is not the owner (e.g. company car, mobility vehicle) will be referred to the back office.

The plan is to gradually introduce the scheme over the next three months with it becoming mandatory from March 6 2017, when only permitted vehicles or residents carrying valid photo ID showing that they are a Barnsley resident will be allowed to access the sites.

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Reply Posted by Tom on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 12:33
Yet making good it more difficult to get rid of waste
They go on about fly tipping then do this ????
Bi s being missed on collection day
It's a pain to get your van booked in even when it's the coucil fault for missing bins and employing lazy useless bin men who can't be bothered to walk 20 yards to get a bin

Reply Posted by Mr Reality Check on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 13:12
There are a few layers to this onion:
1. the segregation requirements are becoming more stringent as per the load limits, being handed a flier at the gate of the rules when you have already loaded your car, should offer an option to pay a "mixed waste fee" allowing you to dump and the company segregates - this would avoid the appeal of fly tipping - in some instances - there are always going to be low life scum who dump on the roadside.
2. The authority should do a better job of sign posting to an alternative waste disposal route, i.e. a list of authority approved waste carriers
3. BMBC is unusual in that it maintains its own waste collection service rather than outsourcing services to Biffa/Veolia etc. I prefer for the money to stay in the area however the administration standards should also rise.
4. Moaning about the fact the bin men don't come into your garden and calling the bin men lazy is not entirely fare - it could be said that we as consumers should be more proactive in reducing waste at the point of origin and also to take responsibility for getting your bin to the curb because the insurance and health and safety legislation makes going onto other peoples property a legal black hole -- if you can get your bin to the curb edge you should (if you cannot you can contact the service and they will make arrangements to support you).

Reply Posted by Stephen Arnold on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 13:29
Restriction,s regarding access into council tips is making it harder to visit ,
so how is making it EVEN MORE DIFFICULT to get in going to reduce fly tipping ?
common sense gone out with the rubbish yet again

Reply Posted by Darfield Tyke on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 13:13
A good idea if !! the council implement it right, & not the usual balls-up that the council is soooooo god at!!!!!.

Reply Posted by Beer. Belly on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 13:24
What a load of rubbish

Reply Posted by David Bailey on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 13:29
People will resort to fly tipping

Reply Posted by Mr C on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 16:30
Council are just adding to the problem of fly tipping, it's disgusting, Barnsley is becoming a compleat dive

Reply Posted by jobsworth on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 17:05
dont we pay through our council taxto use these tips

Reply Posted by resident on Wednesday December 28 2016 at 13:54
Of course we pay through our council tax, that is the point! The plans are designed to stop people from other areas using the tips and recycling centres.

Reply Posted by TheFawkes on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 17:35
Grow up beer belly

Reply Posted by Me on Wednesday December 14 2016 at 21:11
Beer Belly, shadrach ,anon, Steven James, r sole,the Fawkes are all same person trolling

Reply Posted by Various on Monday December 19 2016 at 12:29
'To have multiple personalities is better than having no personality at all.'

Quote from various wise personalities.

Festive Greetings and a Happy New Year.

Reply Posted by Me, Here, Now on Thursday December 15 2016 at 09:03
In all honesty who carries their V5 with them in the car? If having to prove you`re a Barnsley resident then surely it would make more sense to use the driving licence which has your address on it.
BMBC knew this was going to happen months ago when surrounding councils announced they were closing some of their own facilities down due to funding cuts, but as ever BMBC are reactive, rather than proactive - this could have been implemented ages ago.
As for people with company cars and mobility vehicles etc; sending those people back to the site office will just make the queues even longer.
I totally understand something needs to be done, but not enough thought has gone into this new process.
The inevitable increase in fly-tipping will give the council a good excuse for putting up your council tax by 3% a year for the next two years.

Reply Posted by Gavelar on Thursday December 15 2016 at 10:48
Agreed, kneejerk reaction as always ill thought out and no doubt a nightmare for those on the front line that will have to enforce it.

It's so conditional and will no doubt infuriate a lot of people that just want to do the right thing and recycle their waste safely & responsively.

Reply Posted by steve on Friday December 23 2016 at 09:43
when making the trip to the dump it site just take out your V5 from its safe place in your home then after the trip put it back its safe place in your home,no need to carry it around all the time in your car

Reply Posted by Resident on Wednesday December 28 2016 at 13:57
I see your point but people will have to remember to bring their V5 with them next time, it's not going to inconvenience people too much is it?

Reply Posted by Resident on Wednesday December 28 2016 at 13:59
Exactly! Nobody is being asked to do anything too arduous, are they?

Reply Posted by joe smith on Thursday December 15 2016 at 12:47
just issue every council tax payer 1 car sticker with a serial number on with a covering form to apply for a second if needed. then scan stickers when using dump...

Reply Posted by steve on Friday December 23 2016 at 09:35
that cost money to put in place

Reply Posted by John P on Thursday December 15 2016 at 13:36
Why not distribute one per. Household at same time as sending out new council tax notification.Plenty of other stuff in so no extra cost.Lets consider those working at sites,this would obviously help them.
Or is this too simple,let's ask the consultants!

Reply Posted by resident on Wednesday December 28 2016 at 14:04
Or why not insist that every driver that turns up, shows their V5?

The staff at the sites are committed to making this happen, what they can't be doing with is loads of jokers arguing they have a better system!

Reply Posted by Steve on Thursday December 15 2016 at 14:45
And they wonder why fly tipping is on the increase!! This will make it worse... the people who make these rules are clearly living on a different planet,

Reply Posted by Annie on Thursday December 29 2016 at 13:31
Steve, how will this make fly tipping worse? People who illegally dump rubbish will continue to do so, until they are caught. Irresponsible people who for example set themselves up as cheap and unaccountable ' I will clear your rubbish' firms, will carry on as usual and changes to the recycling centre regulations will not make any difference to them.
People who need to be more aware are those who pay someone else to get rid of their rubbish without knowing or caring what's going to happen to their stinky old mattress and other crap.

Reply Posted by Robdought on Thursday December 15 2016 at 19:36
Sounds a load of rubbish to me.Merry Christmas all.

Reply Posted by The grim reaper on Friday December 16 2016 at 11:38
v5 doc Unworkable , why not as previous comments , JUST POST ONE STICKER OUT TO EVERY COUNCIL TAX PAYER and scan on entry to the tip .
bmbc will scrap this soon and hire a bunch of parasite consultants at another extortionate cost . NO WONDER FLY TIPPING IS RIFE !

Reply Posted by steve on Friday December 23 2016 at 09:36
that will involve a cost,and the stickers can be passed on to people in the surrounding area's

Reply Posted by resident on Wednesday December 28 2016 at 14:08
Why on earth is it unworkable for people to produce their V5 documents??
If they can't find it, they will have to sort it out in any case, so their 'very important' stuff for the dump will have to wait.

Reply Posted by resident on Wednesday December 28 2016 at 14:25
V5 document is entirely workable, it is simple.
If people can't be trusted to bring their document ( which Is a legal requirement of car ownership and incurs no cost to BMBC) why would anyone think they can be trusted to bring the hypothetical sticker with them?? although people could always accumulate a few from the many council tax payers who don't drive.

Reply Posted by bob on Friday December 16 2016 at 12:41
Fly tipping will increase as a result of this, no doubt at all, especially around the HWRC's... seems strange that BMBC make this decision in the same week as they organise a stunt outside the town hall, which was meant to bring attention to the amount of fly tipping across the borough....or is it just me ? #left hand right hand?

Reply Posted by Resident on Wednesday December 28 2016 at 14:38
Fly tipping will increase in the short term, as people who are not residents and therefore not entitled to use the dumps, are turned away.
If Barnsley residents ( who pay for the services through council tax) can't comply with the new rules (either they don't have a V5 or forgot to bring it) and end up fly tipping, this only proves they are irresponsible.

Reply Posted by mick on Monday December 19 2016 at 15:24
Is nobody reading this properly it is to stop people using the dump site that does not live in Barnsley. We Barnsley tax payers are paying to dispose of other authorities rubbish, this permit idea will stop people from other authorities filling our skips and land fill sites, I think it is a good idea.

Reply Posted by Wild Bill on Thursday December 22 2016 at 14:24
Why should none residents dump there rubbish here?? No brainer to me. Anyone arguing otherwise obviously are not residents or are nutters

Reply Posted by Resident on Wednesday December 28 2016 at 13:51
it is a good idea. I feel sorry for 'frontline' people who have to manage this at first though. But probably it will gradually stop people from out of the borough from coming to use the centres financed by Barnsley residents via their council tax.
Residents who are asked to produce their V5 will just have to find it and produce it if they are asked.

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