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New market given opening date

Tuesday August 16 2016


The new May Day Green market The new May Day Green market


THE new May Day Green market has been given an official opening date.

The market will open on Saturday, September 3 at a grand event.

There will be a fun fair with a free helter skelter, side shows and games. 

The May Day Green Market replaces the semi-open market so that demolition work can begin on the multi-story car park to make way for the rest of the Better Barnsley redevelopment, including a new public square, new market hall, new library and cinema. 





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Reply Posted by fred on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 17:20
About time they have blocked a public right of way

Reply Posted by patricia on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 17:20
I know its progress and will be good for our Town ,but I loved the buzz of the old market .When there were also stalls up Market hill ,when everywhere was an open market .Even the multi car park that's being taken down that was a market area .Remembering the pot man who used to throw the basket of pots in the air and not break a pot . His voice carried through the market people came from miles around to watch him ,he was even on TV .

Reply Posted by Robdought on Sunday August 21 2016 at 16:52
Joe Edwards very smart dresses truly a character.

Reply Posted by marilyn hallworth on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 17:26
I hope the large set of stairs is not the only entrance to what will be like a greenhouse in the sun just like the bus station

Reply Posted by Hmmm on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 17:42
Haven't you seen the Giant entrance at the front?

Reply Posted by Andy on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 17:29
It's looking more like a cattle market with those cowsheds

Reply Posted by Rambo on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 08:24
I fully agree Andy, I think the row of gable ends that will be seen from the railway and bus station look absolutley dreadful. Whatever happened to the Tuscan village and the modern Barnsley that we were promised. All that Barnsley MBC have created is a huge barn that would look more appropriate on an industrial site or a farm yard. The more the council spends the worse Barnsley becomes.!

Reply Posted by Rambo on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 08:24
I fully agree Andy, I think the row of gable ends that will be seen from the railway and bus station look absolutley dreadful. Whatever happened to the Tuscan village and the modern Barnsley that we were promised. All that Barnsley MBC have created is a huge barn that would look more appropriate on an industrial site or a farm yard. The more the council spends the worse Barnsley becomes.!

Reply Posted by Al on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 12:26
Erm...it's a temporary structure. And you do know that Tuscan village was going to cost five times the cost of the current scheme, something called a recession happened.

Try a bit of research next time

Reply Posted by bob on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 14:06
Erm you do know that the recession kicked in proper in 2008 6 years after will alsops ridonculous vision and we were still"remaking barnsley" in 2012 the whole idea was a massive farce

Reply Posted by Al on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 15:00
They were an architects drawings, nothing concrete and a model he made. Things aren't built the moment the architect comes up with an idea. The funding would never have happened.

Reply Posted by rambo on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 16:24
A temporary structure, still looks a tip. What are they going to do with it when its replaced? Looks like more money wasted by Barnsley MBC. Sheffield has been rebuilt into a modern city despite the recession all we get in Barnsley are promises and second rate developments. PS how long have you worked for BMBC AL ?

Reply Posted by Hmm on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 16:50
It's been sold when it isn't needed.

Reply Posted by Al on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 18:05
I work in Leeds mate not for BMBC. Sheffield a modern city? Take a trip to Leeds it's not a patch on it. That's the only comparison you can make, you can't compare a town to a city, different funding and different planet with the money spent. They'll more than likely sell the structure like they did with Carpet World. It's not more money wasted, what else could they do to re-house the market?


Reply Posted by Gavelar on Thursday August 18 2016 at 12:51
Come on even you don;t believe that. I think the figure was between 1.5 and 5 million quid spent on those drawings, models and promo videos and such like.

According to the council they were going ahead with it all otherwise why have them done. The light, the wall remember those?

The problem was the money had already been sucked up as it was when the public sector was living well beyond it's means. SO the whole plan relied on private investment which Barnsley has always struggled with so yes the idea was ridiculous but where did it come from?

We were promised a 100 odd million redevelopment and we didn't get it. Bradford had similar grandiose plans and had their blackhole for about 10 years they now have their town centre.

A lot of people gt paid a lot of money for basically talking and producing a load of BS

Reply Posted by Wow on Thursday August 18 2016 at 15:29
£1.5-£5 million on drawing, models and promo vids?

The comments on here are hilarious

Reply Posted by Sarah on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 18:16
Looking forward to the new market and the overall package once complete. Its about time we had a cinema complex and fantastic library. Barnsley deserves a new look.

Reply Posted by Brian Tillson on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 18:16
The pot man was Joe Edwards spent a long time watching him as a child. Good memories.

Reply Posted by What a waste of our money on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 18:42
We have a perfect cinema on EldonStreet? AND a library on Wellington Street? Why waste more of our money on new ones?? The" NEW" mkt looks like a car auction mart, awful, it hasn't got a redeeming feature. Are ALL our shops going to be accommodated in the new build?? NO! The card shop at the back of Thomas Cooks has been given notice to quit? After 13 yrs! NO alternative premises offered unlike the rest of the shops in the same area. Very very unfair I say. That is someone's livelihood You BMBC have taken away. The sooner we get rid of the monkeys running this town the better. Yep! Running it into the ground more like.

Reply Posted by Hmm on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 19:11
We have an antiquated cinema that is fine for what it is but is not perfect by any stretch, it has no modern facilities, small screens and only two screens.
We have a small temporary library that isn't fit for 21st century use.
The 'NEW' market is temporary as you know, it's redeeming feature is that it will be removed when the real new market is ready.
The card shop rents the unit and has known for a long time that the area was getting developed. Haven't they bothered to look at alternatives? There are empty units for sale or lease in the Victorian arcade. There is one about 100 yards from the current premises next to Gary's fish and chips. There are units in the Alhambra.

By any chance do you have a connection to that card shop?

Reply Posted by bill on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 11:47
Hmm - any chance you have a link to the council?

Everyone knows the footfall from the arcade is not the same as the area in the market.

Reply Posted by Aoh on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 12:36
The markets hidden, it's a dead end, you only come across it if you're lost. The footfall is terrible which is why they're redesigning it.

Reply Posted by bill on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 15:06
Yeah go in any day of the week and compare it to the arcade, being that it's smack bang in the middle of the shopping complex.

You do know they are keeping the old market don't you so according to your logic. people will still be lost when it's complete? maybe you should have a word with your bosses.

Reply Posted by SOS ( 'Save Our Shops') on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 16:39
I am now really confused about the card shop behind Thomas Cooks. On the one hand, I read there were 'NO alternative premises offered unlike the rest of the shops in the same area' but then 'that card shop was offered and promised premises until 2 weeks ago'...Have they been stitched up? Why? There are premises nearby eg very near, next to Gary's Chippie. And elsewhere! Why couldn't they take a unit in the Alhambra? surely their 800 strong clientele would follow them a few metres. It's cards we are talking about, not life and death matters.

Reply Posted by Aoh on Thursday August 18 2016 at 09:59
Have you even looked at the plans?? Keeping the old market? The entire met centre is being refurbished, stripped back to the structure and everything's entirely new, a boulevard is being opened up around the centralised market so that you can walk round it therefore opening it up? You should have a word with your own bosses, l hope they're not paying you too much with the logic you're displaying on here. In fact have a look at the plans first, the latest ones.

Reply Posted by bill on Thursday August 18 2016 at 11:00
So your saying the market is staying where it is then? just read your initial point.

I don't have a boss.

Latest plans - how many do we need? we're on about version 10.

I refer to your original point that the victorian arcade gets more footfall than the market. I hope your bosses don't ask you to count or make observations.

The turnover of businesses at the arcade shows the success of being based there many don't make it past 24 months.

Reply Posted by Aoh on Thursday August 18 2016 at 15:49
Bill - When have l mentioned the Victorian Arcade? What are you going on about that for to me? I'm on about the footfall for the indoor market (refer to my original post) you clearly are struggling with the reading part of it. Please read the brochure for the town centre redevelopment on the BMBC website, they talk about the lack of footfall through the markets. The indoor market is staying in the met centre but you are missing out on the main thing, now l'll put it in capital letters because it's the main thing to increase the footfall and make a huge difference - A BOULEVARD. This links the footfall out of the Alhambra and into the near square near the cinema. Instead of trying to be smart - it's clearly not working take a look at the plans

You see, in my job l do count.


Reply Posted by Aoh on Thursday August 18 2016 at 15:55
If you click into the links on here including the brochure you can find heat maps for the footfall around the town

barnsley.gov.uk/services/better-barnsley/new-town-centre/

Reply Posted by Sarah on Friday August 19 2016 at 11:34
No it's not life or death but it is people's livelihood. The Alhambra is not an option since card factory located there having in their rent agreement that no other card shop would be allowed in the centre

Reply Posted by What a waste of our money on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 19:31
None, other than buying cards from them. They have an on going petition that, up to last Friday had nigh on 800 signatures on! The owners have been offered nothing by BMBC. Are you connected to BMBC by any chance?

Reply Posted by Andrea Hartley on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 20:43
So glad it's September when it opens it will look a lot better in Barnsley , just need to get the parking sorted . More disabled parking please would be a lot helpful and more public toilets too xx

Reply Posted by Craig on Tuesday August 16 2016 at 22:00
I'll reserve judgement untill the project is finished. The only concern i have at the moment is with the demolition of the multi story is are they going to give alternative parking with the same number of parking spaces that the multi story gives? If not where are people supposed to park?

Reply Posted by Aon on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 12:28
The new revised plans that were released last week have a multi storey in them meaning with Market place we'll have more spaces than we currently do.

Reply Posted by .. on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 07:30
Waste of money.... that card shop was offered and promised premises up untill 2 weeks ago when they found out there wasnt any plans for them to go.... so before you start running ya mouth of saying well they knew it was happening... yes they did and they where promised premises to move to.. which has now been took back.
We need more mother and child parking ... town has loads of disabled spots and 2 or 3 for parents.... more public toilets yes is a deffo .

Reply Posted by bob on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 11:53
Does anyone know the timescales for the market upgrade? There doesn't seem to be any concrete dates for anything.

I'm a bit worried that we may still be using the "temporary market 3-5 years from now?"

I'm a bit concerned that Barnsley is missing a trick by reducing the amount of parking spaces in the Town Centre. I think for the town to do well offices should be in the middle of town increasing spending. Successful cities thrive on this, we don't seem to encourage it.

Reply Posted by Aon on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 15:03
Look at the latest plans, they've decided to include a multi-storey.

Reply Posted by Bob1 on Thursday August 18 2016 at 11:11
Aon how do you find the new plans, I've just googled "Barnsley Market plans"

top result is 2015, then there are 2014, 2012 then there are two articles, one from 2015 saying IBI wins 50M towncentre project following that 8 March 2016. It's not sign posted on the BMBC website either.

Could you post a link please and how you got to them as the amount of misinformation on the project is mind boggling.

Reply Posted by Aoh on Thursday August 18 2016 at 15:51
It won't let you post a link on here so put www. At the beginning of this and put it into your search bar

barnsley-chronicle.co.uk/advertising/mailshot/BetterBarnsley/103/index.html

Reply Posted by Alp on Wednesday August 17 2016 at 12:35
One thing, please please please don't put any market stalls in the new square once the temporary structure is removed. The original plans had them on but the latest ones don't show any, l hope they've gone. There's enough focus on the market without using the square. You are wanting to get the footfall from Meadowhall, Leeds etc people who used to shop in the town, you are not going to get it by focusing all of the plans on a market. The plans for the square shows its surrounded by restaurants and a cinema, people will be soon put off the restaurants if they're looking out onto the square that contain empty market stalls that will only attract druggies like the ones do now. Leave it as a wide open space with attractive planting and benches, there's enough market stalls.
You also need to up your game to attract the shop names back into town otherwise we'll be left with BMBC selling off to the highest bidder - Greggs, Poundworld, Poundshop, Cash Converters etc etc

Reply Posted by Kath on Monday August 29 2016 at 17:45
A McDonalds would be nice in town, and a KFC. That old McDonalds that we used to have opposite M&S used to be like the cornerstone of the town.

Reply Posted by Ada on Thursday August 18 2016 at 11:51
Bill, get your facts right! The Victoria tea rooms have been there 12 yrs, TomFoulstons have been there since Adam was a lad!! Monroes hairdressers have been there 10 yrs or more, the wool shop has been there 8 yrs or more. Beyond beauty has been there 6 yrs or more, Chartwells jewellers has been there 15 yrs or more. The hospice charity shop has been there at least 12 yrs! The cake shop at the top has been there forever! Doesn't really leave much inbetween?? The rent that BMBC charge for the bigger shops is outrageously that's why they change hands more.

Reply Posted by bob1 on Thursday August 18 2016 at 13:11
Ada you get your facts straight:

Debut records
Get your geek on
Top wools
Chartlies hair and beauty
The little sandwich shop
Arcadia 17
Craftworkz
Dj's Cakes and Sugar crafts
The shoe room
unique gifts
the spectacle shop
Monroes

Want me to keep going?

barnsleychronicle.com/article/consultants-brought-in-to-boost-business-in-the-arcade

Reply Posted by Ada on Thursday August 18 2016 at 15:02
You missed the candle sop, the beer lounge the coffee shop the hearing aid shop!! The Chinese nail bar. 4 on your list are SHUT!! I used my 75 yr old brain to name my ones!! You used an out of date chronicle list! Get ya facts right!!

Reply Posted by PRD on Thursday August 18 2016 at 22:21
moan moan moan moan moan moan moan. what a set of moaning so and so's the people of Barnsley are. they have called the new market a barn, a cattle maket , gabble ends, a greenhouse the list goes on and on, and the thing is not even finished yet. we even had a post complaining because the work had blocked a public right of way. what an idiot. what do they expect the fairys to come in the night wave a magic wand and its built ready for use. At least have the decency to wait till its finished before you slate the hell out of it. and believe me the moaners of Barnsley will not let me down. it could be worse look at Sheffield they knocked down their market and built it at the other end of the city its a 10min bus ride for them from the bus station. so think on you moaners it could be worse.

Reply Posted by Annie on Sunday August 21 2016 at 13:24
@PRD
I totally agree. It is very sad but (a lot of) Barnsley people are afraid of change or anything different. They live in a bubble and want it to be the same.
At least the massive changes in town, the new market etc, stops people obsessing about a small minority of 'foreigners' that were upsetting them recently.

Reply Posted by Lola on Friday August 19 2016 at 15:50
Having read all of the comments on this thread the negativity seems to have the upper hand, mind you when you look around this town, not as a whole, but in parts, it does have a lot of negative people living in it. Some of them seem to have very little pride, in theirselves, in their work ethics and also in the way they conduct themselves in and around the town.

Reply Posted by Anon on Sunday August 21 2016 at 16:56
Lola - I agree. It's not everywhere or everybody but there is a strong trend of being negative and cynical about everything. I have been a teacher n this town and several others. Some parents in Barnsley didn't do well at school so saw teachers as their enemy when it came to secondary school for their children. They supported their children in every misbehaviour - truancy, lateness, rudeness, not wearing the uniform, disruption, bullying - and it took up SO much time. I felt sorry for some of these teens who came to school looking for confrontation but much more sorry for the majority of teens who came to school to learn. Very very sad.

Reply Posted by mick s on Friday August 19 2016 at 17:55
The new temporary market is not temporary,trust me,it will become permanent due to lack of funding as is the pictures of what the town will look like when all the re development is done. There are no funds in place to do what the pictures suggest,these are pie in the sky images of what BMBC want the town centre to look like IF funding can be secured,as of yet there is not the funding in place to do fund these projects.Come on BMBC own up to,tell the truth,the funding has not yet been secured.????????????