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Teachers strike

Tuesday July 5 2016


Teachers striking outside of the Town Hall Teachers striking outside of the Town Hall


TEACHERS are striking today over funding, pay and working conditions.

Schools across the country - including some in Barnsley - have been closed because of the action. 

Teachers were pictured striking outside of the Town Hall earlier today.

Do you agree with the strike? Teachers, what changes would you like to see?

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Reply Posted by Greedy on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 12:48
Striking over pay.funding and working conditions,jesus christ ive heard it all now.nice cosy classrooms that are all nice and clean.6 months worth of holidays per year.£450+ per week take home.nice pension at the end of it.id swap that any day.for my swealtering hot factory that knocks us all sick everytime we walk into it.our roof leaks in rain.work 12 hour shifts every day for overtime cos of poor pay.we have to work all bank holidays too.our factory is like antartica in the winter too.we only just get minimum wage for semi skilled work.which should be roughly £12.50p an hour.we should be the ones striking.teachers dont know they are born.so so greedy as if what they have isnt enough.

Reply Posted by Ray on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 14:54
Don't blame others for your life choices.

Reply Posted by MK on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 15:29
My heart bleeds - you made the choice to be semi skilled and work in a place like that! You say you'd swap all that any day - then something to make it happen rather than try to make people feel sorry for you!

Reply Posted by Not greedy on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 16:47
Greedy - if you should be the ones striking, join a union and see about going on strike. Get a job in a school - support staff get those long holidays too but get not much more than minimum wage also and there is no paid overtime. It's not easy to become a teacher - you have to study and train up to age 22 and pay for the training from when you are 18, to pass your first year teaching is very hard too. So if you get through all that, with the debt for tuition fees at £9000 a year, then you deserve a good salary and the right to strike for better funding and conditions.

Reply Posted by John on Wednesday July 6 2016 at 12:09
If it's that easy Greedy get yourself to college for a few years and get a job there. If you're not happy about your situation do something about it - like the teachers are.

Reply Posted by Anon on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 16:08
They are striking over the narrowing of curriculum and test papers - not over money! If people actually took the time to find out exactly what they were striking for, they might not be so quick to judge. They are striking because of unfair expectations of the CHILDREN, not because they want a bit more money. Find out the facts before you moan about your leaky roofs. And the holidays - mainly spent marking books, doing displays, getting up to speed with an ever changing curriculum. That's just a few things.

Reply Posted by kathryn danforth on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 16:16
where do I start - I was a pre-school teacher for over 8 year volunterally no pay loved every minute and would do it again cause it aint about the money its about the kids, there are plenty of ways the schools make money especially those now turned to academies who are funded for using outside services.
its safeguarding week but yet theres no safeness in schools no more as its not about the kids no more,
teachers of academies do have full government protection even in legal matters where a crime as been committed and so have security.
a lot of schools despite their ofsted rating have gone way down hill and so the teachers should get a reduction in wage until the quality of service to the actual clients is of better standard.
The only thing a parent or child doesn't immediately pay for is the place at school and meals other than that the parents provide for childs schooling needs. I think its shocking that they actually think they are worth more odd one or two maybe do opposite to all I say but the majority well I been getting rid of not giving them a bloody pay rise.
oh n sine sending ya kid to school these days is just like sending them to the veal market maybe more children will be home schooled and teachers will be made redundant.

Reply Posted by What?? on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 16:31
What are you going on about Kathryn Danforth and WHAT SORT OF TEACHER were you for 8 years??? Heaven help us all.

Reply Posted by kathryn danforth on Wednesday July 6 2016 at 17:23
They are the issues with with school at moment as they say its about they if the schools are worth the money then maybe the teachers need to teach better and provide better care whilst kids are in their care, if its curriculum well I actually think alterations may be good as children aren't challenged enough within some subjects, but change in pre-school curriculum came out in 2012 or 13 and so its a bit late to be striking it and is all it was basically was siplyfied wording so stuff knows whats going on all I do know is theres a lot more going off with teachers and funding that will ever be disclosed to public. and I feel you probably are someone who knows me or thinks you do cause 6 years was only at one school please fact check. so that's it cause I feel you are just wanting to stir up trouble x

Reply Posted by Fred on Thursday July 7 2016 at 21:45
Teacher my backside!

Teachers know how to spell, use punctuation and grammar. They also know how to construct sentences and use paragraphs.
What you have typed is barely legible!

In future please learn how to do all of the above before pretending to be a teacher to avoid looking such a fool!

Reply Posted by Aha on Saturday July 9 2016 at 15:52
This person was 'a pre school teacher for over 8 year volunterally no pay...'
Says it all really, in answer to your question, what sort of teacher....?
( Unpaid, untrained, unqualified.)

Reply Posted by Keyboard Warriors on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 17:11
The people who rant about teachers getting X amount of holidays a year, fabulous pay, superb pensions and cushdy working conditions obviously do not know a hard working, committed teacher. They could really do with doing a bit of research as to what the strike is about! Your children that you care so much abut are receiving a substandard education, not because of the people teaching them but because of the government and the cuts they have imposed.

Reply Posted by kathryn danforth on Wednesday July 6 2016 at 17:34
they are some government cuts that do want making on teachers i.e funding for school for referral of na child to social services as some schools do take advantage of this, the 2 year old funding should stay in place and be offered to all preschools but they don't need funding for trips ect as in most schools parents pay and if not enough kids don't go. theres loads and yeah I cant be 100% accurate on year I aint got it all in front of me but on top of it all the whole countries messed up at mo do we really need this on top we don't even know who we are directly asking for change just yet as david Cameron aint going to make any decisions at min we all said we want him out why should he show loyalty to us despite our ignorance and mistakes if we cant accept his works 2 ways don't it

Reply Posted by Greedy on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 17:53
To the above.ive never blamed anyone for my life choices.but like i say.striking over PAY and POOR WORKING CONDITIONS and FUNDING.i work hard.by far harder than a teacher in by far worse conditions.and for less pay.im happy in my job.but if all you shallow people READ what i wrote.youd see i put it should be me striking as they arnt happy what they get.poor teachers so badly done to.never said i didnt like my job.just comparing to these lot that think their badly done to.theres alus people far worse thatn them.get on with it.

Reply Posted by MrConfused on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 19:33
I'm a little confused. Lets take out of the equation that you are comparing your work life with that of a teachers.
Ok, you mention a lot of factors about your work, ie leaky roof, not enough pay, knocking you sick everytime you enter due to the heat, 12 hour shifts etc etc.
In essence you are still complaining about the job conditions which sort of contradicts that you love your job to the fullest
The only real difference is you "carry on regardless" with your job.

The teachers, despite the "cushy" lifestyle you perceive are fighting for their work conditions among other things and are just being more vocal, than perhaps you would.

That said, to all the people who are criticizing "Greedy" for his life choices, firstly you know nothing of this person, you know nothing of the reasons behind the choice of work.
Greedy is entitled to an opinion, even if you judge it to not be the "right one".

Additionally, If you are simply implying that Greedy was wrong for choosing the type of work they chose, then surely he should be able to say the same when teachers strike, "they made the choice to teach."

Reply Posted by Fred on Thursday July 7 2016 at 22:15
When teachers are talking about poor working conditions they are not talking about cold classrooms and messy halls. They are talking about red tape, to many changes in policies and procedures the ever changing curriculum. All of which take way too much time from THE KIDS!

As for funding. Everything has been cut to the bone. There are thousands of kids who need extra support and there is no funding so they cannot have it and they're struggling, hell sometimes there's not even money for books or paper all of which AFFECTS THE KIDS!

The teachers are fighting to make things better FOR THE KIDS!

Reply Posted by Sue on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 21:35
Support the teachers, they do a great job.

Reply Posted by Greedy on Tuesday July 5 2016 at 22:06
At the end of the day.ill just put it in plain writing.kids get enough time off school.with out the redicilous amount of inset days and holidays that seem to get extra each year.let alone strike days.which like i say boils down to WANTING more money.better working conditions.more funding ie.to make their jobs easier.about my job was just a figure of speach in comparison.to just how much worse off people of britain are in their jobs compaired to teachers.in other words they should be greatfull for what they get an how much they get.never did i say teaching was easy.but people are by far worse off in their jobs which we do choose to do.what im trying to say is.STOP MOANING and get teaching.as its kids education that are losing out every time they strike.as they do get far to much time off.as it says above do you agree with the strike.ive gad my say and the answers no.wanting more cos they arnt happy with what theyve got.boils down to GREED.in the picture above.theres hardly the teaching popularion of barnsley there.so the select few of the greedy teachers.rest are happy and content.nuff said.

Reply Posted by Keyboard Warriors on Wednesday July 6 2016 at 07:45
You know far too little about the strike Mr Greedy.
You say " we should be the ones striking" well do it! If you believe strongly enough that the job you are trying to do is worth more, fight for it. Why does it have to be a race to the BOTTOM!!
(By the way, the conditions they are striking for are not the conditions of the room/building they work in either!)
I do feel teachers are worth more than they get. In money and appreciation.
But again, I feel you believe the teachers are striking purely for more money. They are not. It is about the changes/cuts the government have imposed and enforced. Do you think it's right that schools/academies are run by businesses to make money? That kids as young as 4 are having to take ridiculous tests? Missing out on creative subjects to prepare for unnecessary tests!? Should our children be being taught by unqualified teachers?! Do you believe they should cut support staff in classrooms yet increase class sizes? Is that beneficial to our children?Children being judged by what they can't do instead of what they can! There has been a huge rise in mental health problems in children over the last few years that the government are happy to ignore.
I'm married to a teacher. I see the fact that the kids start at 9 and leave at half 3. Funny because my wife is at that school before 8 in a morning. Funny because she hardly ever walks back in the house till 6 o'clock at night. And even then before our kids are in bed she's marking books, preparing lessons/resources for the day after..or the day after that. Trying to get that little bit in front. Before someone comes to a decision the day after that it all needs doing differently! I've seen her still sat there at 11 o'clock at night because she's got to finish some work. Regularly coming home having not had time for any dinner (and once not even time for a pee!) because there was no one to watch the class! Your view means nothing to me and I'm a little peed off I've spent the time I have to write this. However it's the people like you with an opinion like yours that need to look why people would feel so strongly about something that they are willing to strike. It's not just for "another" day off. It's far more important than that. It's for our children.

Reply Posted by Greedy on Wednesday July 6 2016 at 09:18
Keyboard warrior your're clearly upset by one's opinion.but as ive constantly pointed out and repeat myself.i read the title above teachers are striking over PAY FUNDING AND WORKING CONDITIONS.what more to it can there be for christ sake.reason why we voted out of ea referendum is because of all the cut backs to nhs police force.local councils and schooling ect ect.thank your lovely government for that.we all suffer but we still go to work and make a living.your wife has to mark books.that is her job.just like when ive done 12 hours at work then a shift managers says can you stop another 3 hours cos its a buisness critical matter.we all have to put the hours in boyo.i have 3 children too.ive said to my managers were under staffed why not set more people on.make our jobs easier.never happens.life aint a bed of roses and we dont allways get what we want.and i wouldnt ever dream of striking by the way.i chose my job.i go to work and get on with it.just like everyone else.DO I MAKE MY POINT CLEAR. or do i need to go on.

Reply Posted by Fred on Thursday July 7 2016 at 22:50
Greedy it's you that's not getting it!
How can you liken your job to that of a teacher's?

If you work in a factory and there is not enough staff, Some product doesn't get made,
If you work in a shop and there's not enough staff, Products don't get sold.
If you work in school and there's not enough staff. CHILDREN DON'T GET AN EDUCATION!

Teachers don't want better working conditions or funding for themselves.They want them so they can cut the bull and be able to get on with the job of teaching. They want it for the children!

Do I make my point clear or do you need me to differentiate it even more for you?

Reply Posted by @ keyboard warrior on Wednesday July 6 2016 at 09:26
Sounds like you're partner needs a change of proffession buddy.not a day striking.you say she does'nt get the time to pee.if the jobs so harsh on her then i do think by now she'd have chosen a different proffession.the chap named greedy does have a valid point.and it clearly does state above.strike over pay.working conditions and funding.so i must admit you have been a tad narrow minded towards peoples views on the strike and are clearly fabricating things on the teaching front to stick up for your wife.

Reply Posted by Keyboard Warriors on Wednesday July 6 2016 at 11:08
Well if you've read the title that's OK then.
I haven't fabricated anything. The informations out there if you're willing to find it. Maybe I know more about it because my wife is a teacher. Maybe thats why im as worried as I am about the education OUR children are receiving. Your opinion is based around the pay and conditions and completely ignores the mess the government have made and are continuing to make of our Education system, NHS and other public services. Should we all just bend over and let it happen...
And again you're back to money when you talk of having to stay for an extra 3 hours. Is that unpaid?
Should my wife leave the job she trained for years for? A job she loves/loved because it is not about teaching anymore...
If Greedy is happy with the situations in our schools, then more fool him.
I'm just trying to point out its not all about pay and try and help other people to not be so 'narrow minded'.


Reply Posted by Lol on Wednesday July 6 2016 at 13:17
It says it all when theres about 15 teachers trying to make a stand outside the town hall.tells me that the rest are more than happy with their jobs.if kids didnt turn up to school for a day.they would be in trouble or parents would be in trouble an threatened with fines.but its ok for our children to keep missing out on vital education due to teachers thinking about them selves and striking all the time.i think greedy is trying to say.we cannot allways have everything we want and the way we want it in life.and just have to bite the bullet amd get on with it.like all the rest of the teachers do.like i say.theres about 15 lol hardly a decent turn out isit.surely made their point lol.made them selves look fools if im honest.as rest of teachers didnt give a s..t thats why there was only about 15 there.rest of the teachers from all over uk just got on with it.hence are all happy with their jobs and what they get.

Reply Posted by PMSL on Thursday July 7 2016 at 21:35
Well, Lol, those 15 teachers must be powerful as 3,500 schools were closed yesterday due to the NUT strike.

Reply Posted by Fred on Thursday July 7 2016 at 23:11
That's because they went to sheffield or Leeds to join the big rallies!

Reply Posted by Fred on Thursday July 7 2016 at 23:15
You do know that only a tiny percentage of Barnsley teachers actually live in Barnsley right? Why would they travel here when there are bigger rallies on their doorstep?

Reply Posted by Keyboard Warriors on Wednesday July 6 2016 at 14:05
The Internet is a wonderful thing.
Not all teachers are members of unions. Not all unions have the right to strike. Trust me, there are a lot of teachers who didn't strike who wanted to.
Maybe those teachers who aren't outside the town hall have had the chance this year to go see their child's sports day. Or just enjoyed an extra day with their children. Heaven forbid.

Reply Posted by Keyboard Warriors on Friday July 8 2016 at 10:14
Thank you Fred! At last!

Reply Posted by Fred on Friday July 8 2016 at 19:39
It's like knocking on wood lol

Reply Posted by Ed on Saturday July 9 2016 at 11:26
My son was a physiotherapist going to patients home to treat them, When he came home at night, he sat hours writing up his notes,because he had a list of patients every day, but spent the time in his working hours phoning GPs social services, and other therapy units. He had to work Christmas Day as part of his rota, So we had Christmas dinner at tea time. When he came home late he said he had been doing an old infirm mans washing and running round to find another old lady some light bulbs because she was in the dark. After dinner he sat down to do his notes. Well I don't know how a teachers day is ,but there are people out there who work hard unsocial hours and prepared to go that extra mile .

Reply Posted by Ed on Saturday July 9 2016 at 11:26
My son was a physiotherapist going to patients home to treat them, When he came home at night, he sat hours writing up his notes,because he had a list of patients every day, but spent the time in his working hours phoning GPs social services, and other therapy units. He had to work Christmas Day as part of his rota, So we had Christmas dinner at tea time. When he came home late he said he had been doing an old infirm mans washing and running round to find another old lady some light bulbs because she was in the dark. After dinner he sat down to do his notes. Well I don't know how a teachers day is ,but there are people out there who work hard unsocial hours and prepared to go that extra mile .

Reply Posted by Ed on Saturday July 9 2016 at 11:26
My son was a physiotherapist going to patients home to treat them, When he came home at night, he sat hours writing up his notes,because he had a list of patients every day, but spent the time in his working hours phoning GPs social services, and other therapy units. He had to work Christmas Day as part of his rota, So we had Christmas dinner at tea time. When he came home late he said he had been doing an old infirm mans washing and running round to find another old lady some light bulbs because she was in the dark. After dinner he sat down to do his notes. Well I don't know how a teachers day is ,but there are people out there who work hard unsocial hours and prepared to go that extra mile .

Reply Posted by Annie on Saturday July 9 2016 at 15:32
Ed - your son must be truly ' one in a million' and you should be immensely proud. Was he a physiotherapist in Barnsley and was it within the last 8 years? I am asking that because between 2008 and 20014, my father ( who was definitely one in a million) had very limited access to a physiotherapist after first breaking a hip then later a shoulder. He was housebound and saw a physiotherapist once, at home. When hospitalised a Physio would produce a sheet of exercises but care assistants on 3x daily visits of 15 minutes per visit did all this as well as any household tasks that family had been unable to do. I am amazed to think of a Physio doing washing, fixing light bulbs and visiting on Christmas Day! Even in hospital, Rehab and Respite Care my father only saw a Physio for a few minutes, twice a week.

Reply Posted by Ed on Sunday July 10 2016 at 15:28
Hello Annie thankyou for your remarks.My son worked in West Yorkshire mostly Castleford Area , This was 2 years ago he was a band 6 so mostly in charge. But depending on the severity of the patient depended on the number of visits they had weekly or monthly. I don't know how it works in the Barnsley area as this is a different N H S area ,so possibly have different ways of working.sorry to hear about your father .but physios work closely with other therapists and social services etc.