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Plans For Huge Development To Go On Show

Friday July 4 2014

CONTROVERSIAL plans for more than 2,000 homes between Barugh Green and Pogmoor will be available for people to view.

House builder Strata and planning consultants Spawforths are hosting a consultation at Barugh Green Club on July 8, as they prepare the 'Barnsley West' masterplan.

The site - which sits between Barugh Green, Pogmoor, Higham and Gawber - could accommodate space for 1,500 private and 170 affordable homes.

The consultation will provide people with the chance to look at the plans, ask questions and make comments.

Residents opposed to the proposals have formed the Keep It Green 2014 group, who are concerned about the 'destruction' of the greenbelt, loss of identity, flood risk, pollution, loss of wildlife habitat, disruption, devaluation of property and loss of privacy.

Member Ian Preddy said: "The council said it has a duty to consult stakeholders, but a key section of the population - residents potentially affected - are being ignored, once again."

Do you live near the area? Are you for or against? Have your say below.

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Reply Posted by STEVEO on Friday July 4 2014 at 18:56
Yet another classic example of BMBC Buffonery "everyone gets what no one wants" as per usual...

For developments of this magnitude BMBC MUST DEMAND that at least 40% of the properties built are "affordable", having said that and coming from a part of the country that has THE LOWEST WAGES how anyone could afford said "affordable housing" is beyond comprehension.

A £110K "affordable" house is certainly out of reach for most people who reside in the vicinity....

Reply Posted by Brian on Saturday July 5 2014 at 23:39
'A £110K "affordable" house is certainly out of reach for most people who reside in the vicinity'

How do you know that? You and the people that you associate with may well be paupers, but I would suggest that an overwhelming majority of people in the vicinity would have no problems at all in raising £110k. Indeed, I believe that all 2000 properties could be sold for sums well in excess of that figure.

Reply Posted by laura on Saturday July 5 2014 at 23:52
what planet you on Brian- This is Barnsley not London. Take a good look around and see the properties for sale over £110k and sadly not a lot selling as out of the price range for MOST Barnsley people..FACTS I work for estate agent and below 100k the new buyers on there wages can afford, but not many can afford above 100k due to the lack of wages this town offers..

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Sunday July 6 2014 at 16:36
Pauper eh?

ok I admit I don't quite earn as much as Sir Stevey baby Houghton, but i'm not bart a few quid.

Tis called hard work with nothing given on a plate.

I wont be buying one of these thrown up cardboard houses either, i'm happy in my nice little cottage.

Reply Posted by 12345 on Monday July 7 2014 at 09:23
London properties go for WELL above £110k Laura, garages in London for above £110k but of course as an estate agent you will know this.

£110k is reasonable for a new build, they will be snapped up. Look at the Persimmon homes site on Sheffield road there is about 4-5 houses left and they are going like hot cakes.

Reply Posted by guy fawkes on Monday July 7 2014 at 16:07
There probably built of hot cakes houses today are built not to last quality costs money and Barnsley ain't got a lot.

Reply Posted by guy fawkes on Monday July 7 2014 at 16:09
Laura did you know the word mortgage is French and the English translation for this is death pledge.

Reply Posted by Brian on Wednesday July 9 2014 at 22:41
With that pathetic attitude you had better tell me where you work so I can avoid using your agency.

Reply Posted by rainbow on Sunday July 6 2014 at 08:33
With over 400,000 immigrants a year coming into the country they've got to be housed somewhere.???

Reply Posted by j on Monday July 7 2014 at 08:50
Good point Rainbow - they've more chance of a house than our kids have. To Brian -you are entitled to your opinion, but it is totally unnecessary to insult people.

Reply Posted by blue sky on Monday July 7 2014 at 08:52
If they cost 100k and banks are only allowing 3x wages for mortgages then the purchasers will need to have 10k deposit and earn 30k per year mimimum. How many average mimimum paid zero hour contracted local people will have that?

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday July 10 2014 at 16:44
Exactly the point I was trying to make until Brian chipped in with his two penneth,

Reply Posted by panda on Monday July 7 2014 at 09:29
I'd like to know what improvements to the local services are planned to cope with these houses together with the proposed development near Dearne Hall Road. Both Gawber and Barugh Green schools are over subscribed. The youngest half of Barugh Green are all bulge classes of 45 and there doesn't seem to be space there for all years to have two separate classes when they filter up.

Reply Posted by ray on Monday July 7 2014 at 11:12
Panda, I can tell you what improvements are planned for all the 3000+ new homes planned this side of Barnsley - none. Diddly squat. Mapplewell, Staincross, Darton, Barugh Green, Higham , Pogmoor, there have been no plans released by the council on new schools, doctors, roads or infrastructure. The developers are riding roughshod over the wishes of the residents. I a resident of 34 years will now be looking to leave my village and area which I love as it is losing it's identity. Cawthorne, silkstone, hoylandswaine etc don't seem to have this problem. They protest against small developments in those villages and they get refused planning. I wonder why.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday July 9 2014 at 09:19
gridlocked ROADS, NO extra school places, cant get a doctors appointment for love nor money. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN welcome to Darton, Mapplewell and Barugh Green.

US residents lose out all whilst the "developers" who throw up these wafer thin cardboard houses reap the massive benefit.

They take the absolute p*ss out of BMBC with the promise of a certain percentage of "affordable" housing then renege on their promises once they realise they can get away with telling the council that to build a percentage of these "affordable" houses is erm, economically unviable.

BMBC tell us that we "need" 30 odd thousand houses before 2030, tell me BMBC planners where are these houses going to go?

We all know where they will go don't we?


Reply Posted by Brian on Wednesday July 9 2014 at 22:44
Irrespective of what you may think, all the houses will be affordable - because they will all sell.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday July 10 2014 at 16:41
To people from outside the area.....

Don't be so cock sure either, the Woolley Grange estate STILL isn't finished despite being "under construction" for quite a few years now.

Reply Posted by June on Tuesday July 8 2014 at 06:57
2000 homes? Seriously?

What about schools? Roads etc the area cannot take it.

The secondary schools are already far too big so another primary Isn't going to help long term, horizon is the 3rd biggest school in Europe for heavens sakes why does a mid sized town have to have one that big?

Plus it's green belt they are gradually whittling away our green spaces till we will have nothing

How many strata homes are there in the borough already?

I know of at least 5 sites numbering thousands of identikit houses do we want the whole area to become a strata "streetscape"

Are there not enough industrial areas that could be rezoned without destroying the country side

Terrible terrible idea

And I'm not local to it so I'm afraid so no nimbyism here

Reply Posted by Oh dear on Tuesday July 8 2014 at 09:28
Where does it say people from Barnsley can't afford a 110k mortgage? Look around the rest of the new deveopments around Barnsley, most of them are all sold!


Reply Posted by Hoyland Red on Tuesday July 8 2014 at 12:26
These developers don't go into these planning agreements completely blind. They will do their homework and know what size house is most suitable for the area and what price to pitch it at. Of course they will sell if they price at 110k - 200k, that is affordable and not just to local folk but those wishing to move in to the area due to the proximity of the development to the M1.
New developments offer the opportunity of expanding our existing services at no cost to the taxpayer - schools will be extended, new roads built with improvements to specific junctions, bus routes improved - all part of the planning agreements that have to be signed and paid for by the developer.Tesco have just completed a scheme in Hoyland as part of a new store they're building providing a new mini roundabout and zebra - I don't think that would have been built if Tesco hadn't come along.

Reply Posted by guy fawkes on Tuesday July 8 2014 at 19:25
We use to have plenty of housing before the think of me gang bought there council property and the standard of brick and materials used were far superior to what's going up today.

Reply Posted by ron on Wednesday July 9 2014 at 14:52
110k for a new build in that area? Lol. The developers want to build there as they know they can sell the houses for a lot more than other areas in Barnsley

Reply Posted by silky on Tuesday July 15 2014 at 17:59
I suspect this is a convenient way for the council to get the bypass constructed at minimal cost to them. ie private development only allowed if Road construction is subsidised. Wouldn't be surprised if a similar development occurred between claycliffe and eastfield arms. Be interesting if the land has been compulsory purchased if price is based on current use as agricultural land or for housing/industrial.

Reply Posted by John on Saturday November 14 2015 at 10:25
Let them build them all you stop the Barugh green development get a grip

Reply Posted by Ann marshll on Sunday September 4 2016 at 13:39
I have lived in the Barugh Green area for over forty years of which time many field have been built in yet hardly any roads have been changed those that have had improvment done have eased the flow of traffic ??
This is what i have come too know as incresse.in the speed leaving bottle neck areas like those threw barugh
If you add some any new homes will you also improve the schools and other improvment too make area liveable as it is we are already coming second the cars in our area how can a minimum of 2,000 extra be a benift to our community

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