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Thousands To Be Spent On Public Art

Wednesday May 7 2014

AROUND £60,000 will be spent on five new pieces of public art in the town centre.

The plan is to spend up to £20,000 on a piece for Barnsley Pals Centenary Square, and a further £40,000 creating four 'gateway pieces' at four points on prominent routes into the town centre.

County Way, Barnsley Interchange, Westgate near Morrisons and Town End roundabout are the locations that are set to gain artwork.

Sculptor Graham Ibbeson, who created the Dickie Bird statue, said the budget was quite small but said it could encourage people to be creative in coming up with something impressive on a limited budget.

He said: "It is a great opportunity to involve the creative core of this town, especially the younger end, get some young blood involved, and maybe work with the students."

Funding will include section 106 money which developers have to contribute to the community when they get planning permission for major projects such as housing.

The scheme is part of a wider contract of up to £75,000 advertised on the YORtender website which calls for a consultant, consultant team or creative company to manage and commission the artworks before next March.

It includes a further £10,000 to set up a public art strategy, and £5,000 for the development of a 'loan scheme' to bring other artworks to Barnsley in a partnership with Yorkshire Sculpture Park.

What do you think to this idea? Will it enhance the town centre? Are you in favour? Have your say below.

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Reply Posted by Donna on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 10:15
Nobody wants this. The majority of people want the money spent on everyday useful things
Y not spend it on feeding the hungry, help the homeless or elderly.
BMBC need to start and get their priorities right. The so called art out side the alambra is right eye sore
Looked better with out it.

Honestly people are sick of this sort of thing.

May as well throw the money out a window :(

Reply Posted by Sarah on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 10:20
If this money has come as per section 106 as stated above, then surely Barnsley Council should have enough funding to house the entire art collection from The Louvre. The huge amount of planning permissions that are being signed off & given the go ahead are just not feasible, can't believe the amount of new houses proposed in Mapplewell & Staincross. The best part of a thousand have or are in the process f going through, this means the population will increase by at least 40% (conservative estimate), not sure how this can be supported by the existing infrastructure.

Reply Posted by mary on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 10:23
I think it should be spent more wisely. Puplic art will be temptation to be vandalised however pigeons will love it. There is so much more to use it for.

Reply Posted by guy fawkes on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 18:42
dont agree mary no pigeon muck or vandalised art work in sheffield on the water features ect winter gardens do you think so little of most of the populus of barnsley.

Reply Posted by guy fawkes on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 18:42
dont agree mary no pigeon muck or vandalised art work in sheffield on the water features ect winter gardens do you think so little of most of the populus of barnsley.

Reply Posted by Alan on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 10:39
They Are Going To Remove A Vitally Important Barnsley Landmark "The Mushroom" Then Put Up Some More Crap Like The Giant Pussy Under The Subway.!! What Ever Next?

Reply Posted by aiden on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 10:58
this money should be spent on public services there is so much cut backs in council and so many council workers loosing there jobs and council closing things down but can find £60.000 for Art

Reply Posted by John-Boy on Saturday May 10 2014 at 10:29
There are far too many council workers doing very little and need to be culled, this money will be spent on the people of the town who contribute not just one ones who take our hard earned money out.

Reply Posted by rainbow on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 12:07
If the giant cat is anything to go by then what a waste of money.? Time for a change of governance in Barnsley, Labour are clueless.!!!

Reply Posted by anon on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 18:51
What's the giant cat?

Reply Posted by anna on Saturday May 10 2014 at 13:21
just outside alhambra

Reply Posted by sid on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 12:31
When is the asylum opening?
Does sculptor Graham Idiotson realise how crass his comment is? The budget is quite small??? He and a few more need to wake up and smell the soup kitchen. What a slap in the head for a lot of people that are struggling weekly. Let me know when there's a day trip to their planet,I,all be on that bus!

Reply Posted by Nannabeth on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 13:30
Would be better spent on fixing all the potholes!

Reply Posted by Bongo on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 14:14
£10k each. Bargain. Gormley's Angel of the North cost about £1 million and look at how iconic that's become. It's a great opportunity for fresh talent to emerge on the doorstep. Wiv got best sculpture park in Britain t'other sider Darton housin' some real creative talent and it should be supported. £60k on public services would evaporate in days without any trace as it would on the roads, and as for the needy, well that's the responsibility of families and communities to pull together and do what they can - if you know someone who'se struggling, take em a meal, give of your time, make their day. Don't go moaning about it.

Reply Posted by Disabled... on Thursday May 8 2014 at 18:42
Seriously?! Get a grip you moron! Some people need extra help from the council rather than waste money on crap like that "comb" outside the Town Hall! Ridiculous person...

Reply Posted by John-Boy on Saturday May 10 2014 at 10:30
Work harder thats what everyone else has to do

Reply Posted by hoyland red on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 15:01
I agree Bongo, unfortunately many people on here think art is something for someone else and not folk from Barnsley. The £60,000 could be split 50/50 with funding from developers who knows? So for small change it could encourage kids to get involved in art in whatever form that takes. Alternatively, some people think £30 spent in't local is a good night.

Reply Posted by anon on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 15:18
Well Red and Bongo, have you heard the phrase Fur coat and no Knickers? The nit comb has made such a big differance to the lives of people in our town,we,d be lost without it,as its so usefull in these times of hardship.
If money is to be spent on Art hope its after the town centre has been altered.

Reply Posted by hoyland red on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 15:59
But Anon you like me have no idea what effect art has on peoples lives. It may not suit you and that's fine but other people may like it and it's certainly a talking point. Perhaps you're happy to perpetuate this grim northern stereotype that we have and every penny we have should be spent on potholes rather than creating something that gets people talking and thinking about what's around them. I seem to recall the outcry when the Experience Barnsley museum was proposed - it now appears to be well received by most people. It's time people started to talk the town up rather down - why can't we have public art and the semblance of some culture?

Reply Posted by anon on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 16:18
I love Art red, but the council should be run as a business, you wouldnt expect a supermarket to have fantastic tills,trolleys rest rooms etc and the shelves be empty. I agree with sunshinegirl below, all of these pieces of Art should be put up after all the dog crap,rubbish, etc is shifted. The place looks dirty with litter all over,so the sculptures are spoilt before they are even put in place. I agree with you about our museum,I think its lovely but lets have the public art and culture when the place looks better. I dont like the grim northern stereotype,hopefully we are trying to get past that, hence the museum but lets clean the house before we put new furniture in it. Simple housekeeping would play a major part in our town, and to be fair,the general public must share some of the blame on that, but I dont see sculptures as the first thing in the queue when it comes to spending money.

Reply Posted by guy fawkes on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 19:16
hoyland red your first line needs a little corespondance art comes in many forms doesnt it yes agreed .have you ever felt a lttle down i bet annon has then on the radio has come on your favourite piece of music be it classical, opera the beatles so on so on suddenly you feel good the mood has improved art has improved your life and annons thats the power of art its spectrums are huge and its range touches millions wether they realise it or not.

Reply Posted by Hoyland Red on Thursday May 8 2014 at 12:48
Anon, the Council should in part be run as a business, but they are after all a public service and the two will never sit comfortably together. Simple housekeeping operates everyday in the town centre, the streets get cleaned, however and you read about it every week that someone gets fined for littering, so clean one minute, then a minute later, litter again. Your comment about the general public taking some of the blame - well who else is to blame then? I said earlier in one post - we don't know how much of the £60,000 is revenue money, as opposed to money that developers have had to contribute toward public art - it may be very small, but surely if you're in charge of a very large budget which the Council still are, then spending small amounts on public art with the possibility of encouraging the towns youth into the arts must be a good thing.

Reply Posted by anon on Thursday May 8 2014 at 12:54
I take your point Red. I can see both sides, its been a good debate.

Reply Posted by Hoyland Red on Thursday May 8 2014 at 13:44
Anon - it has. We need differing views to be able to offer up a balanced opinion - hopefully the right decisions are made for the long term as well as the short term.

Reply Posted by sunshinegirl on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 15:53
I appreciate that art can improve how a particular arsa looks and inject a bit of culture in to a place but mayb some funding could go into employing more staff to keep Barnsley clean, dog muck and litter free!! It often looks so grubby, especially in the villages around Barnsley- Cudworth, Monk Bretton, Carlton, Royston, Lundwood to name a few. Come on BMBC clean up and maintain before adding art!!!

Reply Posted by Daniel parker on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 17:48
Why dont sculptors loan there sculptures for free, this way they get free publicity and could make a name for theirselves and it wouldn't cost us anything, the sculptures could be changed regularly and some could be offered for sale, if i was a sculptor i would be happy to loan mine and im sure some sculptors would think this is a great idea, so if you are a sculptor and have a big statement piece, let the chronicle or council know

Reply Posted by guy fawkes on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 18:24
lets have a look at sheffeild and the beautiful water features they have around the town hall and the city hall the train station would the people of sheffield want these pieces of art work removed i think not who thinks the pals gardens fountains should go and bring the carpark back we need more people spaces in barnsley lets celebrate barnsley to the outside world with water, grass and pieces of art work lets show the knockers of barnsley we are not culturaly bankrupt.

Reply Posted by anon on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 18:53
You've given me food for thought @guy Fawkes.

Reply Posted by human on Thursday May 8 2014 at 10:41
'sheffeild' - wow.

Reply Posted by guy fawkes on Thursday May 8 2014 at 21:05

Reply Posted by Ken on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 20:42
Just where the hell does this 60 grand come from. All we've heard for years is cut backs, cut backs and more cut backs but our "wonderful" labour council comes up with more money for "art". Why not spend the money on cleaning up the town and making it more appealing to encourage people to visit.

Reply Posted by anon on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 21:06
Does anyone know what the giant cat is and where?

Reply Posted by kaz on Wednesday May 7 2014 at 21:14
Why not use the money to help people into work... there are enough empty shops/market stalls etc...... that would help the town and encourage people to vist. And cleaning up barnsleys streets should be a done thing anyway....

Reply Posted by guy fawkes on Thursday May 8 2014 at 07:09
just look at the photo posted with this article does it sell barnsley to you ,now tell me the town shouldnt get any eye catching pieces of artwork more nature water so on .

Reply Posted by anon on Thursday May 8 2014 at 08:54
What's the giant cat @rainbow? Is it a sculpture that no one knows or cares about? If so then maybe that says it all.
I agree with your post above guy,but put a sculpture in the middle of that photo and it wouldn't make a jot of difference would it.

Reply Posted by chickadee on Friday May 9 2014 at 11:04
It's a rather eye catching sculpture in the open area of the Doncaster Road underpass (from Alhambra) with a poem on the back about the Alhambra Theatre cat. It's a cartoon style cat, rather reminds me of Laurel Burch's images.

Reply Posted by anon on Friday May 9 2014 at 11:36
Thanks for that chickadee. How many more people had noticed it I wonder? I never go that way,so I don't count. I'm just wondering if it looks nice or if its been neglected and is more of an eyesore? These things do tend to be forgotten about. They mean not a lot to the general public in my view.

Reply Posted by chickadee on Friday May 9 2014 at 14:20
Ayup anon.
It's pretty prominent (looks as though it's peeping down the tunnel) 7ft tall and only popped up in the last month. So it's not neglected or an eyesore at all.
I think people haven't got the hang of the fact that you don't *have* to like a piece of art. I can't imagine a situation where an artist could create something that absolutely no one would dislike.

Reply Posted by anon on Friday May 9 2014 at 14:42
I,all,have go see it chickadee,thanks for info. There is one piece of art/building that I can think of that may fit your bill of absolutely no one liking. The Hepworth? What a dismal,uninspiring building! Its horrible and deffo doesn't make me feel like going inside. One day I will go and hopefully I,all be wrong. Until then I really dislike the look of the place,cold,and you can see the joins in the concrete. Blahhh.

Reply Posted by chickadee on Friday May 9 2014 at 14:54
No problem, I walk past it on my way to work everyday. I'm growing rather fond of it - but I'm very much a cat person.
Oh I meant I doubt an artist could create something that everyone likes! Double negative, my mistake.
Hepworth is alright, not bothered over the building but the art inside is pretty interesting. Well worth a visit though =)

Reply Posted by GRIM on Thursday May 8 2014 at 09:36
This topic is unusually balanced for a change.

Reply Posted by anon on Thursday May 8 2014 at 10:51
Youre right GRIM. The reason being,that yes,everyone loves nice surroundings, we all want to live in a nicer Barnsley. But a sculpture wont change much,it,ll be just plonked somewhere amongst the muck. Use the money more wisely thats all.

Reply Posted by Save on Thursday May 8 2014 at 12:40
Why not put money towards road repairs u go away on holiday but u always no when u get bac to barnsley also never mind homeless and old folk what apart summert for workers for a change no we can't get now for giving it to druggies etc

Reply Posted by T.Mac on Thursday May 8 2014 at 12:46
Road repairs need doing throughout the counrty,not just Barnsley.

Reply Posted by Bungle on Thursday May 8 2014 at 14:16
Typical BMBC never listen to the people of Barnsley and just wasting money on art. So there is no money for road repairs and public services but we found 60k for art this council is a joke time to get rid this coming election this council it not fit for purpose.

Reply Posted by John-Boy on Saturday May 10 2014 at 10:35
You will never get rid of the labour party in this town no matter how they treat the people, they will still vote labour, ive never seen so many people from other countries in the town its like the league of nations, and why because they know the folk of Barnsley can be taken the P**S out of, and before they all start they poured in under the last government. (where shall we put all this lot? send em to Barnsley there that daft they'll still vote for us)

Reply Posted by hoyland red on Thursday May 8 2014 at 17:47
Bungle which party are you campaigning for? I think you need to see the bigger picture.

Reply Posted by Collet on Saturday May 10 2014 at 12:36
John Boy go and spend a few days with the refuse men in all kinds of weather,who keep getting ****** about with thik labour Councilors who keep changing routines that work perfectly well, and instead of spending,money on things that is not in desperate need,if and when you start your culling start at the top Houghton first Miller Andrews next then all the rest of the Dictators,labour in Barnsley is none democratic, it's a closed shop!!!!

Reply Posted by Graham- on Saturday May 10 2014 at 13:24
Hahah what a f... joke!!!
Let's see if all the foreigners are gonna get the blame for this too!!!

Reply Posted by Sal on Saturday May 10 2014 at 13:43
Let's see how many complainers actually bother to vote against the Labour council they always moan about. For everyone that says Labour will get in again so they won't bother voting stop complaining then. If everyone whose moaned on WAB over the last few years about our Labout Council bothered to register a vote against them then the Labour council we've had for the last 30 years would be no more. Its simple, if you don't like how things are run use your vote on May 22nd and change things.

Reply Posted by John-Boy on Saturday May 10 2014 at 21:46
Well said Sal, i dont care who gets in just as long as its a change they will then think WTF! but it wont happen and the same lot will just keep doing what they do so well........ Sweet FA.

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