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Free Rail Travel For Elderly To Be Scrapped

Thursday February 20 2014

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FREE rail travel for pensioners will be scrapped due to transport budget cuts.

The English National Concessionary Travel Scheme (ENCTS) - which enabled pass holders to travel free from on any bus or train service - will no longer be allowed from March 31.

Now, bus users who wish to travel before 9.30am will be charged full fare, but will still be entitled to free travel between 9.30am and 11pm.

Train users will be hardest hit, with all free travel being scrapped.

The cutbacks, which have been approved by the South Yorkshire Integrated Transport Authority (SYITA), come as councillors are forced to make savings of almost 10 per cent to transport budgets.

Coun Mick Jameson, chairman of SYITA, said: "We don’t like having to cut back on services but when your budgets are being slashed there simply isn't a great deal of choice. The savings have come from somewhere.

"The good news is that we have largely been able to protect the bus network and that child fares aren’t being touched this year."

What do you think to this? Have your say in the box below.

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Reply Posted by bananas on Thursday February 20 2014 at 14:18
that's it, pick on pensioners again, these people who fought 4 our country.. give druggies 3 travel paases, that sarns a gud idea mr councillor.

Reply Posted by Ann Aldredge on Thursday February 20 2014 at 14:21
Why am I not surprised,its not even as if we have a quality bus service with stage coach in my opinion they are the worst bus company in Britain,that will be me going nowhere because we pay top price fares for a low class service

Reply Posted by shelley on Thursday February 20 2014 at 14:36
it was about time we got david camoran out cut,s cut,s that,s all he is doing

Reply Posted by stu on Thursday February 20 2014 at 16:23
Thats right shelly, then we will have Red Ed running the country. Could you imagine -No thanks!

Reply Posted by Mark on Sunday February 23 2014 at 20:11
Just what is "RED" about Milliband ? He is nearly are right wing as the fecking Tories !!
Just to put a little perspective onto things though, the Government that has paid back more of the National Debt than any other was the last Labour one. What cost the Country was the bail out of the banks which never should have happened. Something that was not the fault of the last Government, but something they had to pay the price of.

Reply Posted by Dennis on Thursday April 3 2014 at 15:11
Well said Mark

Reply Posted by paula on Thursday February 20 2014 at 14:42
Work from 15 - 60 dont get a bus pass suppose they be done away with next Be ok we can walk it to work .

Reply Posted by John on Thursday February 20 2014 at 14:54
Cancel their free bus travel as well. Sick to death of them filling the first 9am buses. Make them pay for their travel then they make think about whether they need to make 20 trips to town 6 days a week (they only do 10 trips on a Sunday). Wait until April when they can only use their passes between 930am to 11pm. The new lodge club pensioners won't know what's hit them. As for druggies and alco's- give them free bus travel but segregate the driver and have the seating area connected to the exhaust with a pipe.

Reply Posted by Leanne on Thursday February 20 2014 at 16:40
Great comment :)

Reply Posted by Dennis on Thursday April 3 2014 at 15:12
Im with you on that on Leanne

Reply Posted by Chris morris on Thursday February 20 2014 at 14:57
I would much preferred a small charge of 50p than to have rail travel scrapped we look forward to days out on the train I know we can get the bus but it takes longer I hope the oap pension will rise enough to cover the extra costs but I doubt it as for the pass not starting till 9 30 don't see that being a prob so I suppose we should be grateful

Reply Posted by Tom on Thursday February 20 2014 at 17:51
The OAP pension has increased above inflation every year in this parliament and there was above inflation increases before that. It is the only benefit being increased in real terms, all the rest are being cut in real terms.

Arguably they are all being cut, because the inflation figures are fiddled and people don't eat consumer electronics (which have consistently fallen in price) for breakfast, but that is by the by.

50p would be an extremely small charge for train fares, a return to Sheffield is £5 for example. The pensioners in my family don't seem to bothered about this, some have even said they would rather pay for the buses too and see fares reduced for working people.

Currently there is no incentive for pensioners to complain about excessive bus fares, and working people who complain are ignored. The bus companies don't actually need fare paying passengers income, as they are able to run off of the subsidies from pensioners and disabled people. - This obviously leads to the question, why aren't services nationalised and travel free for ALL.

Given the choice between paying up to £1 per mile for a bus journey in Barnsley and not paying up to £1 per mile for a bus journey in Barnsley, I walk.

It is actually financially more rewarding to walk to work in many cases, than it is to work. The cost benefit analysis I have carried out shows me, that I can save the equivalent of £9 an hour by walking instead of catching the bus for my regular journeys... Show me where there is plenty of employment at £15 an hour and I might consider catching the bus to work for £15 an hour wages.
(If I pay myself £9 an hour to walk, then I need to save a further £6/hour in time to make it rational to spend money saving 'time' by catching the bus).

That said, I'm not in favour of these cuts, we should really have all out nationalisation of the transport network which is essentially multiple state funded mini-monopolies. And travel should be free, or very low cost at point of use for ALL.

Reply Posted by mr x on Thursday February 20 2014 at 15:24
they do right why should they travel free even if they just made them pay kids fayre

Reply Posted by stan on Thursday February 20 2014 at 15:44
mr.x a lot of us would pay a childs fare but there is a law that says we cant.So jump down off your high horse and get some facts

Reply Posted by sammywambam on Thursday February 20 2014 at 16:15
Is it the same for disabled people? I use my pass to get to college as no one can give me a lift as my wheelchair doesn't fit! Always the same, most vulnerable affected!

Reply Posted by Nannabeth on Thursday February 20 2014 at 16:48
Soft targets!

Reply Posted by Andy on Thursday February 20 2014 at 17:00
All SYPTE are doing is withdrawing the LOCALLY FUNDED extensions to the ENCTS scheme.

You are now going to be tarted the same as pass holders in the rest of England, with the exception that Tram Travel is still being allowed at present (which isn't part of the ENCTS scheme - it only covers bus services)

Reply Posted by Andy on Thursday February 20 2014 at 17:08
Stan, whilst the companies are prevented from charging someone presenting a pass, all you have to do is get on without showing your pass and pay a fare - if enough people did this even once a fortnight, these cuts may not be needed.

Reply Posted by Abbie on Thursday February 20 2014 at 17:08
Do people have any idea why they are making the cuts. They are not "picking on the pensioners." They simply cannot afford to keep the services running with the amount of people travelling for free.

Reply Posted by new oap on Thursday February 20 2014 at 17:23
I thought all these concessions started at 9.30. As for making lots of journeys, I only make journeys by bus when I have to.. maybe once or twice a month and certainly not before 9.30 - same goes for trains! This concession is a lifesaver for some pensioners, particularly those having to go for hospital appointments in Sheffield or Wakefield. Maybe travel in the future will be for the privileged wealthy minority.

Reply Posted by Andy on Thursday February 20 2014 at 17:44
Bananas - please understand that they are not scrapping the free travel that the GOVERNMENT scheme covers, only the LOCAL additions.

Reply Posted by new oap on Thursday February 20 2014 at 17:50
Is this cutback only affecting pensioners here in South Yorkshire, I know similar schemes happen in other areas.
Having seen the number of older people using buses and trains after 9.30, particularly buses, how long are these services going to run for everyone as lack of use with newly empty buses/trains will be seen as a waste of money and services will be cut back affecting everyone. This is not a forward move, our public transport services could suffer a lot!

Reply Posted by john on Thursday February 20 2014 at 17:51
Who wants to go into Barnsley? Free travel or not. I've seen better east European bomb sites, they don't have any shops either.

Reply Posted by Rosieann5678@hotmailcouk on Thursday February 20 2014 at 18:22
There is meeting at barnsley central library on march 1st for those who are affected by bus and train passes those who are affected are the elderly on dla and mobility the time is 1pm

Reply Posted by nobby on Thursday February 20 2014 at 22:28
rosie if the subject of blue badge abuse is on the menu i may go as i am sick to death of jags 4x4 ect and quite alot of the grey haired gang abusing the scheme.just sit outside cash generators and watch the pee taking circus .

Reply Posted by dd on Thursday February 20 2014 at 19:08
here we go again. leave the pensioners alone and take subsidies off the kids. make them walk . problem solved.

Reply Posted by nicky on Thursday February 20 2014 at 19:26
That's disgusting ,why not charge a little , how many oaps look forward to days out . Also it will make a lot of them stay at home more due to the cost.what about getting to appointments using public transport , no its just so wrong !!

Reply Posted by P entioner on Thursday February 20 2014 at 19:38
Not bovered Ave gorra Car

Reply Posted by nobby on Thursday February 20 2014 at 22:21
yes i bet you have blue badges as do 90 per cent of all oap s in barnsley i watch erm trying to keep up with there stick the oap s are the real bennefit scroungers not as the tv would have us believe with bennefit street.

Reply Posted by x on Thursday February 20 2014 at 20:05
Dont forget to mention the kids fares are going up to 80p too

Reply Posted by gaz on Thursday February 20 2014 at 20:30
So if a bus or train has 4 oap's on it and rest ov bus, train is payin passengers, what does it hurt if the oap's didnt pay, it still cost the bus, train company same in diesil weather they paid or not.they are just wantin more profits and realised they canot rip payin customers of by putyin prices up, so their doin it by hittin oap's , does not supprise me though with state this country is in these days.

Reply Posted by Queens english on Friday February 21 2014 at 22:59
Whether you are in favour of the cuts to Barnsley travel costs or not,I would at least learn out to spell and use correct grammar,before posting any comments.

Reply Posted by Faust on Saturday February 22 2014 at 10:12
In that case, I would recommend you do the same yourself and for example; put a space after each comma, proof read any pedantic comments before posting to check for spelling mistakes.
Although congratulations on spelling 'grammar' correctly, most people on here don't.

Reply Posted by x on Thursday February 20 2014 at 20:40
Its got nothing to do with the train/bus company's

Reply Posted by x on Thursday February 20 2014 at 20:43
If the some of the oap/ mobility pass holders didnt take the piss out of the free travel n stopped getting on at one stop n getting off at the next one which is within easy reach of walking then maybe the budget wouldnt have to be cut

Reply Posted by dd on Thursday February 20 2014 at 22:41
@x u need to reflect on what you have said.where would we be today if it weren't for our elders ? r u 1 of the waste of space councillors who get paid 0000s for doing nothing ?

Reply Posted by reg vardy on Thursday February 20 2014 at 20:54
That's daft @x. The blumming train or bus is travelling its route no matter how many passengers board. The cost of running is always the same. It don't matter how many passengers get on .

Reply Posted by nobby on Thursday February 20 2014 at 22:23
your right reg it is daft they take the **** with the blue badges instead.

Reply Posted by Tiggers villa on Thursday February 20 2014 at 21:22
Have they forgotten how much the OAP activity keeps the NHS bill down
The Council are the biggest wasters of our money we have ever come across 3 people employed on landscaping which we pay for ,1 standing watching and one pretending to work while the other pratts about no supervision so can take all day doing things that take half the time We worked hard and now we can even get low fares you tight sons of B*****S

Reply Posted by ......... on Thursday February 20 2014 at 21:29
i have a mobilty pass
i dunt claim benefits i actually work. i have arthritus n sometimes find it hard to walk. its not just the oaps it is affecting its the mobilty pass too x

Reply Posted by Smee on Thursday February 20 2014 at 22:24
Will all you moaning, griping people going on about oaps getting free travel seem to have very short memories. You dole scrounging t*ssers have been supported by the taxes that were paid for by the oaps whilst they were busy working very hard in their previous employments before retiring. So they should be able to enjoy some of the "rewards" during their retirement as most of them are probably still paying income tax to support the ones who won't work. So back off you moaners, because you will be the next ones to be affected when the shops are empty. Especially when spending money within Barnsley or its surrounding areas drops.

Reply Posted by Rosie on Thursday February 20 2014 at 23:07
You not be able to use your pass on train no more have to pay full fare for oap those on d l a and mobility nobby blue badge holders if you have someone to drive a car mobility must be disabled or in wheelchairs etc

Reply Posted by bob on Friday February 21 2014 at 00:19
i dont mind the oap's getting free travel as most of them will have been paying taxes for 50 years not like these lazy gits who havent got a day work in them and just knock kids out for a living and sit in their pyjamas all day smoking weed and expect every benefit going

Reply Posted by tracy on Friday February 21 2014 at 01:21
take every thing off them,9am a joke with them at every bloody stop,the drive trying to keep to schedule but cant get going for pensioners,make em pay,5 mins to put a pass on a machine a wait for green light after 2 year they still cant do it which holds bus up.

Reply Posted by wigsy on Saturday February 22 2014 at 12:06
Keep Calm Lass, Tha' From Yorkshire. Lol. I drove buses spanning across 4 decades. From before the miners strike I drove through the 80s, 90s, 00s, and into the 10s. I'm out of it now. Whoop, whoop. Lol.
When I started, there were restrictions on start and finish times for OAP passes. All the mobility passes were in different colours for different zones, too. Barnsley, Rotherham, Doncaster, Sheffield. Fares were in pennies i.e. 7p, 8p, etc. and we had far more fare stages and different fares than now. Also, because fares were cheap, the buses were packed like sardine cans on wheels. At least the schedules weren't as tight for time then. Now the drivers can be out for up to 5 and 1/2 hours and hardly have time to get their breath between busy runs. It's like the screw is being turned all the time by certain companies, pinching every loose minute that can be found in the schedules. They don't understand that a human needs a little, even brief, refreshing gap between tasks. This is insanity in a job like bus driving where so much is at stake. Even when I was in the army we had 10 minutes rest for every 1 hour of work. The army understands such things, but those who just live to make as much profit as possible don't. They will screw you into the ground, throw you away, and replace you. You are nothing to them if what I have experienced is anything to go by.
And THIS is the problem with this now Godforsaken country. It has become nothing but a concentration camp. This country did well when the people had spirit, a free hand, creativity, We even won the world cup, and Eurovision. Now, we are even despised at Eurovision, and it isn't the songs, it's the stench of war, corruption, and hatred of our interference in other peoples affairs. There was a time when we could travel the world and be friends with anyone on a human level. That is all it needs. There is now a lack of Love, empathy, and respect for Humanity in the blind pursuit of profit, power, and status. No matter how wealthy this country might become from now on, it will be dirty money, blood money, and the power and politics is all based on lies and deceit, and therefore null and void. In maths, anything times zero, is zero. 1 x 0 = 0. Even 100 trillion x 0 is still 0. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Lol.

Reply Posted by BillyNoMates on Monday February 24 2014 at 10:57
Best comment I've ever read on this site, well done wigsy.

Reply Posted by wigsy on Monday February 24 2014 at 16:22

Reply Posted by lauren on Friday February 21 2014 at 08:02
Well I think you all should be supporting our oap's, they fought in war to gives us our freedom etc, and here you are all saying to take there's off them, I'd rather have oap's on a bus or on a train rather than keeping their driving and be a menace on the road, by driving so slowly, should have a bit more respect for the elderly.

Reply Posted by Helen Williams on Friday February 21 2014 at 09:15
I agree Lauren. The level of hate and prejudice against elderly people on this site is shocking and immensely depressing. Most of us will get old, lose mobility and suffer various health conditions - much as you don't want to believe it. Please think twice before you post.

Reply Posted by Smee on Friday February 21 2014 at 10:35
It's very strange to see how many people want to deride the elderly and their use of free travel. What about asking all local Councillors why they get a handsome reward for voting to withdraw publicly used amenities, whilst they are still being paid?
Many years ago Councillors didn't get paid as it was considered an honourable and respected part of providing and being within the local community. It seems as though these days this has gone the wall. Perhaps if they didn't get paid anymore, they might fight a little harder to stop much used services from being withdrawn.
As for the above comment by Lauren about the elderly being a menace on the road, at least they do know how to drive and not treat the road like the Nuremberg circuit that the younger inexperienced drivers. Something which can be seen on a daily basis as they abuse their limited driving skills and knowledge of the road. Perhaps it would be better if they got a free bus pass.

Reply Posted by lauren on Friday February 21 2014 at 11:02
Maybe I should have explained that part of my comment abit better, what I ment was, when they driving at 20mph on a 40mph road that is what I ment. I have children and I always stick to the speed limit as my children are always in my car, I don't drive irresponsibly as my and my children's lives are far more important aswell as other road users.

Reply Posted by amanda on Friday February 21 2014 at 12:47
we will all be old one day if were lucky

Reply Posted by derek on Friday February 21 2014 at 13:29
Amanda..believe me you should have said "if we're UNlucky...

Reply Posted by lauren on Friday February 21 2014 at 13:31
Hmmm, how have I got my facts wrong? So by saying that oaps should have free travel passes is wrong, well it's not wrong because it's my opinion, in your eyes it might be, saying they drive slower than the speed limit well, definitely not wrong there

Reply Posted by derek on Friday February 21 2014 at 13:48
Lauren I am 80 and never use my pass I am fortunate enough to have a car,,,,which I do not drive too slowly...the opposite was the case until I was caught doing 36 in a 30 zone down t'Brig by a sneaky bloody cop van in a gateway...I now respect the statutory limits which might I remind you are the top limit not the speed you HAVE to go at....Try doing 30 in a 30 zone and you will have a load of Jason Buttons up your tailpipe trying to scare you into breaking the speed limit.....

Reply Posted by limited walking on Friday February 21 2014 at 14:09
This will just stop them using the service early in and catch a bus to Sheffield.

Reply Posted by Littleoldlady on Friday February 21 2014 at 17:39
I read the Examiner in Huddersfield yesterday and the section for court cases was full of fare dodgers, I think this point needs throwing into the debate too!

Reply Posted by wigsy on Friday February 21 2014 at 19:58
2 points here.
1/. Fare dodging:- I know someone who has been catching the train to work in Sheffield and back for years and apparently there are many people on the busy "sardine specials" at rush hour who never get checked because the conductor cannot get to everyone. You don't need a criminal mind to guess the obvious, that some regulars have sussed out just where to be on the train to avoid paying EVERY DAY.
2/. There are no direct buses to Leeds as there used to be. It would take half a day to get to Leeds and back via Wakefield or where-ever else a connection can be made, using 4 buses. Yes, there's the train. An expensive train for pensioners and the otherwise poorly-off people. At least give us a decent direct bus service to Leeds again.

Reply Posted by jud on Friday February 21 2014 at 22:09
There are National Express coaches operating between Barnsley and Leeds.

Reply Posted by wigsy on Saturday February 22 2014 at 10:45
Thank you. Can we use oap passes on them?

Reply Posted by jack goodall on Friday February 21 2014 at 20:12
Lmao..its about too...We in West Yorkshire can only use the bus after 9.30am and if I have to go out before then, I pay...
Even the child fare are only half price, you should think yourselfs lucky you live in the south and not the west.
All the drunk OAP waiting for the last bus will now have to pay, I say if you can afford to get ****** up every evening, then you can afford the fare.

Reply Posted by Unlucky jim on Friday February 21 2014 at 21:02
Just retired after working since I was15yrs of age and looking forward to my free train rides after paying my way on the railway system for donkeys yrs I am disgusted by the way I and the older end have been treated

Reply Posted by wigsy on Friday February 21 2014 at 21:38
Same here, Jim. The Love Generation of the1960s always was targeted by jealous hate-mongers who couldn't understand what was going on, and they still don't understand. Talk about "non so blind as those who will not see", poor sods. Never mind, they can juggle away with economics and play power games 'til Kingdom Come, but they haven't experienced what we have experienced. We have the better memories, and no sad little plastic people can take those away from us.

Reply Posted by wigsy on Saturday February 22 2014 at 08:02
oops, spelling correction - nonE so blind

Reply Posted by sam on Friday February 21 2014 at 22:01
@derek. I know what you mean. If im going 30mph in a 30mph zone I get people overtaking me. Very annoying x

Reply Posted by jud on Friday February 21 2014 at 22:19
I believe Barnsley and all the south Yorkshire councils contributed funding to the construction and operation of the Sheffield supertram and it comes nowhere near us. Concessionary travel on that isn't affected by the cuts

Reply Posted by Unlucky jim on Friday February 21 2014 at 22:28
Wigsy@ too true friend we can always hitch a ride to the house of the rising sun or have an Hendrix experience

Reply Posted by wigsy on Saturday February 22 2014 at 07:56

Reply Posted by lauren on Saturday February 22 2014 at 02:22
@Queens English, think you should read your comment again lol 'learn out to spell' can't comment on others when yours is not correct either lmao

Reply Posted by Bill on Friday April 4 2014 at 19:42
Queen's English. Learn how to spell.

Reply Posted by Kathy on Saturday February 22 2014 at 11:14
I think it's disgusting! Would they rather people rot away at home? this is the only way some people have of getting out, keeping active and healthy. you know. And seeing as the council are making all these "necessary" cuts, I trust they will be then "cutting" the need for their 50 foot Christmas tree this xmas!!!!

Reply Posted by Lucky jim on Saturday February 22 2014 at 14:43
Wigsy it's a long time since I have read a speech like the one you have just made being an x matalow my self that's a sailor to the uneducated and a hippy to boot in the manor of the film brave heart they can take away our train pass's but they will never take our FREEDOM

Reply Posted by wigsy on Saturday February 22 2014 at 18:48
:-) Freedom of the Heart and Soul :-)

Reply Posted by lauren on Saturday February 22 2014 at 15:05
Haha a love it @lucky jim

Reply Posted by woy on Saturday February 22 2014 at 22:09
Amen to that wigsy, love it.

Reply Posted by wigsy on Saturday February 22 2014 at 22:32

Reply Posted by Ron on Sunday February 23 2014 at 17:59
My Dad uses his pass to hop on a bus or train and then walk back. He did 10 miles walking from Sheffield to Penistone on Friday.

Reply Posted by Observer on Sunday February 23 2014 at 21:00
This is all very sad. This was a concession for pensioners people who fell on really hard times in the past. I mean really hard times And when younger generations are bickering over miniscule things like some of the above comments is beyond me. And disrespectful to the elderly. Some of the comments above. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.

Reply Posted by Reidy on Sunday February 23 2014 at 21:36
Totally agree, some of the younger me, me me self obsessed generation are a disgrace.

Reply Posted by Tom on Sunday February 23 2014 at 22:09
The younger generation is the first to be poorer than their parents in over 80 years.

It amazes me how many old people are unsympathetic to their plight. The young today really have it tough. The me me me generation isn't the young one, that is for sure.

Reply Posted by Bill on Friday April 4 2014 at 19:35
It's always been the same Tom, they're the 'owt for nowt' generation. Back in 1948, the old generation was the first to jump on the freebie bandwagon when the NHS came into being. These people would acquire free spectacles and false teeth whether they needed them or not. The things would then live in a drawer and never be used. A bloke I knew would always insist on the GP doing home visits, even for a mild sneeze. "I'm entitled to this'" was his claim.

BTW, it's good to see some good English grammar and spelling; very rare on a page such as this.

Reply Posted by Reidy on Sunday February 23 2014 at 23:11
Really? Do you honestly believe that?

Reply Posted by Tom on Monday February 24 2014 at 00:06
Really, yes. Incomes are lower in real terms, and that is before taking into account housing costs and education costs.

For the first time ever in the history of this country, people in retirement now have on average more income that people in their 20s who work.

The young people now who are working, are the first generation ever to have lower incomes that those in retirement. The current lot of pensioners all had far higher incomes in their 20s, than the pensioners that were around back then.

Reply Posted by Bill on Friday April 4 2014 at 19:40
I agree totally. When I was a teenager (1960s), I could afford to buy and run a six seater car with a 3.3 litre engine (Vauxhall Cresta). I could afford to pay for insurance too, so I didn't have to drive it illegally. I knew other kids who did this too (Ford Zephyrs and Zodiacs).

Reply Posted by tillyanne on Sunday February 23 2014 at 23:43
i am a wheelchair user if i travel on train i will have to pay for two as i carnt get anywhere without help :(

Reply Posted by Reidy on Monday February 24 2014 at 09:49
A sweeping generalisation, but I suppose you know best young un.

Reply Posted by dwayne on Tuesday February 25 2014 at 15:50
Why are people so shocked... you have to look at it this way... these are buisnesses... they have to make a profit and im afraid the way things are there profits proberbly dont look too healty... scrap free for oap or just hike everybodys up and affect everyone... while ever gas electric and oil rises this was always going to happen
Most older people would be happy to contribute to there fares.. id say a comprimise is needed on this one
and im not political in anyway so find it hilerious things like this are used for political arguements... there all useless.. labour got us in this mess and the libdems and camerons cronies carnt get us out of it... even ali g had something going when he said "keep it real" none of todays mps have a clue or idea anymore there too out of touch

Reply Posted by Laura on Tuesday February 25 2014 at 15:56
Make them pay same fair as kids end a day it's hard enough for us young ens to get to college and work.. And when you live in penistone like me it's almost 3.50 just one way to town and with the prices going up it's beyond a joke and it's too far to walk if am honest.. Going to college on a morning is a night mare because of the oaps catching it so early and they only go town and walk round yeah it's good for them to get out the house but it's beyond a joke with then filling up the busses when they don't even pay!

Reply Posted by Nigel on Sunday May 11 2014 at 20:13
I agree. One OAP was moaning at me (at least I thought it was me) when I didn't let her sit down. You should've seen her face when I, as politely as I could, told her "Excuse me, I've paid, you haven't. So please bear that in mind before you say anything to anyone else." Do they really expect to be able to sit down at the expense of a full fare paying passenger? If she'd paid the same as me I would've been more than happy to let her sit down.

Reply Posted by m.... on Wednesday February 26 2014 at 14:58
so pay for travel whats the big eeow people saying they disabled and elderly whats the diffrence if you have to pay non disabled and the young have to pay i dunt understand simple its only the trains where you have got to pay

Reply Posted by wigsy on Wednesday February 26 2014 at 15:53
When we were young, we used to have the same attitudes and thoughts as some of these young 'uns who are commenting on here. We used to think age or mobility problems were too far in the distant future for us to be concerned about. Now look at us. Age has crept up, and mobility problems have come upon some of us. Now we've got today's young 'uns being just as know-it-all, inconsiderate and disrespectful as we were. Lol. Just wait you lot. It'll be your turn one day so think carefully. You are making the bed now that you will have to lie in later. Been there, done that, got the thermal vest. Lol.

Reply Posted by wigsy on Thursday February 27 2014 at 06:39
...and it's a tie-dye thermal vest at that !!! Lol.

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday February 26 2014 at 17:52
@laura, you heard yourself. make them pay, they fought in our war not all of them, have a bit of respect, you'd be moanin and groanin if you drove a car and they wasn't doin speed limit, I'm college student, I give up my seat all time, simple fact you treat your elders with respect grow up they need to get their bits and bats from town so they should wait for your Morgy student to go to college to go to town, yeah right if my gran was here she'd tell ya to do one big time

Reply Posted by Woy on Wednesday February 26 2014 at 18:30
Got it in a nutshell, whatever happened to respect your elders?

Reply Posted by Sheridan on Thursday March 6 2014 at 07:20
I should like to support the people who have pointed out, quite rightly, that there is no bus service to Leeds. It is about time Sypte addressed this.

Reply Posted by Nigel on Sunday May 11 2014 at 20:01
What happened to X32? I thought that went to Leeds from Sheffield. I remember the day I used it because some idiot crashed into the side of us as we entered Leeds city centre! No-one was hurt thankfully! If X32 is no longer operating I'm sure there's buses between Leeds and Barnsley one can change on to from Sheffield. If, however, doing this takes too long then just pay and use the train. Senior and Disabled railcards have been available for years!

Reply Posted by Bill on Friday April 4 2014 at 19:25
If there are any tax payers making sympathetic comments here, just remember who finances these concessions. After all, free train travel has been a privilege not a right. Other counties in Britain never had it; we're just falling into line with the rest of the nation.

Reply Posted by Bill on Friday April 4 2014 at 19:29
Looking at some of the comments here, I think the money could be better spent on education. I have to wonder what language is being used here at times. It's far from English.

Reply Posted by kfc on Friday April 4 2014 at 20:38
The costs will be greater than money saving alone. Large number of Elderley people will become prisoners in there own homes.

The will become isolated and possibly leed to depression and other medical conditions.

Helping the Elderley and encouraging them to go out and socialise helps them to keep healthy in mind and sole.

Also the costs to local bussiness when the people no longer spend there money in the shoppe cafés etc.

Watch the locals Councillors queuing up at election days to give them a lift to the polling stations.

Hypocrites comes to mind.

Reply Posted by Nigel on Monday April 28 2014 at 19:40
The problem with OAP's free travel (buses as well as trains) is it should never have been introduced in the first place by so-called new Labour, that way there wouldn't be all this hassle now. I don't blame SYPTE for withdrawing free train travel. Have these people not heard of the Senior Railcard? Free travel makes a mockery of this.
I hope the police make a few arrests next time they try to get on a train without a ticket as an example to the others that this sort of behaviour will not be tolerated. OAPs should contribute to what they use just like everyone else. As things are they make themselves look like freeloaders!

Reply Posted by Louis on Thursday May 1 2014 at 12:33
Nigel you t!sser I've been paying full fare for 45years now you want to arrest me get a grip and listen to yourself, bet your a Closet Tory!

Reply Posted by Nigel on Sunday May 11 2014 at 19:51
I am not a closet Tory, Louis, I am proud to say I am a Tory and will be voting for them in the next and future elections.
I can't understand why you expect to be able to travel around on public transport for nothing! Do you have a car? If you do, do you get fuel free or heavily discounted - no you don't; and neither do I.
While I don't expect OAPs and the disabled to pay full fare for train travel I do feel very strongly that they should pay (contribute) something; ie half-fare. This means a day return from Barnsley to Sheffield is £2:55. Now are you really saying this is beyond the pockets of these people? It's practically peanuts. And when I reach 60 or 65 (or maybe even older!) I'll be more than happy to pay whatever fare is charged at that time. I'm NOT a hypocrite!

Reply Posted by Nigel on Sunday May 11 2014 at 20:35
Something else I forgot to mention on this subject. My grandparents lived to be well over 90 (101 in my grandad's case) and neither of them EVER complained about a lack of money or having to pay to travel on a bus, train or tram. They would even take the occasional taxi if the weather was bad and they didn't want to wait around for a bus in pouring rain. Now why can't today's OAPs do likewise and stop moaning like Victor Meldrew?

Reply Posted by paul grayson on Tuesday May 13 2014 at 11:13
To the against bus passes, how many of you have elderly parents or grandparents, would you wish them to pay, after bringing you up. Or see them sat at home vegetating till they die. Or going out, thats what it means to some of them.

Reply Posted by Tom on Monday August 11 2014 at 21:38
People can't afford to go and see the ones that are housebound, vegetaing till they die as you put it.
So the elderly person has a free bus pas and does not use it, and their relatives who provide care, can't always visit and help out with their care because they have to heavily ration their money and thus their travel.

Reply Posted by Trevor on Tuesday May 20 2014 at 15:08
Just been reading all the comments about Free Rail Travel is this something local because its the first I,ve heard about it . I live in E. Yorkshire and we don.t get free rail travel only Bus Travel . I am 76 and yes we do still pay Taxes on Pensions( not State ) I very rarely use my Bus Pass but it is handy when I have to go up Town . I enjoyed reading ALL the comments but some very sour grapes among them so to them I say your turn will come sooner than you think believe me

Reply Posted by wendy ball on Tuesday September 16 2014 at 21:49
I got on the train at Crowle in lincolnshire to Doncaster in South Yorkshire and it cost me £7.10 using my pass. A person using a lincolnshire pass travelling the same journey paid £3.40! How is that fair!!!

Reply Posted by Glenda Brennan on Thursday December 8 2016 at 17:15
Was disgusted to having to pay full fare I've not seen anything advertised to go for a ticket I have always paid on train the conductor told me to get of train and go for a ticket but I didn't have time to get there and back before train was due to leave ime 66 what did he want me to do there was no way I could go get a ticket if you don't know surely he could give benefit of doubt will not make that mistake again

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