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Pub Demolition On Cards

Wednesday January 22 2014

We Are Barnsley We Are Barnsley

A PUB in Mapplewell could be demolished to make way for new shops, We Are Barnsley can reveal.

Punch Partnerships Ltd has applied for planning permission to demoish the Kings Head pub on Darton Lane and build a shop with parking on site instead.

Barnsley Council planning officers are now considering the proposal.

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Reply Posted by ry on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 16:35
I think theres way too many shops opening tescos sainsburrys theres only just been a costcutter put in middle of mapplewell and theres a co op and 3small shops spread round the vilage what is the need of all these shops

Reply Posted by Ftw on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 16:37
That will leave one pub in the village. Nice one :-/

Reply Posted by A Nonnie Mouse on Thursday January 23 2014 at 14:00
Barnbrooks & The Talbot, that's 2...

Reply Posted by john on Saturday January 25 2014 at 20:38
and tin hat

Reply Posted by patricia on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 16:40
Go ahead it's only been there forever , knock it all down put a shop so people can't afford the prices, get more cars round a corner already dangerous, . corner, who cares anymore, it seems anyone can just do what they want.

Reply Posted by Jack on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 16:46
Got to agree 100% with Patricia on that one. Im not from mapplewell but I go to the butchers opposite the kings head fairly regularly and that corner is dangerous as just round the corner going into the estate there is a right hand turn to take you up to staincross club. The parking on that road is horrendous.

Reply Posted by emma on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 16:49
I thought it'd only just opened up again?

Reply Posted by Ej on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 16:49
Like to see a sainsburys/tesco local there. Less pubs, less havoc. It's a shame people would rather p*ss their money up against the wall rather than purchase decent food/goods

Reply Posted by A Nonnie Mouse on Thursday January 23 2014 at 14:04
If it is going to be a shop/shops then these should be up for rent to local business enterprises not a National Chain. There is already the Co-Op & CostCutter in the village with several local butchers, baker's, tea rooms, wedding shop, pubs, newsagents, corner shops, Restaurants, Pet Shops.... SAY NO TO A SUPERMARKET.

Reply Posted by clee2 on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 16:49
what? another one to go,,,too many pubs closing ,,,,shocking news for Mappllewell,,,whats up with this chuffing world,,,whats it coming to,,,,,lost for words??

Reply Posted by Ftw on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 16:55
Food/goods can be purchased from the other 3000 shops and businesses in the village. What about the affect on local shops like nassars on pie ave. Big names are ruining local businesses and theyre taking one of the boozers in the village with them. One public house for the whole of mapp.

Reply Posted by A Nonnie Mouse on Thursday January 23 2014 at 14:06
There's Barnbrooks, The Talbot & the Tin Hat WMC, the Kings Head shut down because people weren't using it and has only just re-opened as The Kings. It obviously isn't viable anymore.

Reply Posted by barryfatknacker on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 17:02
we new about this ages ago now new here ....

Reply Posted by patricia on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 17:03
I don't drink . so that's not the reason I don't think another shop is needed in Mapp.

Reply Posted by ward on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 17:09
It,ll be good for those of us who live at other end of village. (kingsway)

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 17:19
@Ej maps a lovely place to live really quite not much trouble really. As for pubs theres only 3 pubs in that are Kings Head, Talbot and Barnbrook or what ever it's called on cross roads and how do you know these people piss there money up wall and not buy good food products people can go out for a piss up and still purchase decent food it's called working hard so they can enjoy life instead of been a miserable bugger or budgeting there money so they can go for a few pints nothing wrong with that at all

Reply Posted by Observer on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 17:22
I feel alarmed by ej comments. Its is nothing short of scandalous closing yet another pub. Especially to
Make way for shops?? Just because decent hard working people want to socialise snd have a few beers on the rest periods from work doesnt mean the take any less quality food than you!! The conservatives will have their way. ' no communities" theres no such thing said thatcher. There will be one pub. And one wmc in each village. That is the way they want it. They will be able to boast cutting the level of policing too. They say there are drink related health problems so tax is added to beer ? Which makes it expensive to drink in public houses. But on the other hand. You are allowed to drink yrselves senseless at home. Parlaent is miles out of touch with the working man !!

Reply Posted by Beer Drinker on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 17:39
As someone who loves a beer I've drunk in most pubs around the area. The reason why locals are disappearing is they are pricing there self out of the market. When a pint in your local is over £3 (and it's just mass produced rubbish) you can't afford to drink their regularly. The old days when you'd nip for a couple after work or on a Saturday / Sunday lunchtime, dart / pool team nights, quizz nights, Friday / Saturday nights etc are long since gone. End of the day you can't afford to run a pub with no one in it.

If your going to survive in the pub game you've either got to do food, have reasonable prices, specialise in real ales (and know how to keep it), or do something to keep kids happy while parents talk and can ignore em.

Reply Posted by Dave g on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 18:24
Why do people moan and groan when yet another pub closes? If people went in them like they used to they wouldn't close. Simple use it or loose it. If a place int making enough money it's gona shut.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 18:41
I've been in the Kings Head (now called the Kings) many times over the years and it hasn't really changed that much apart from the extension on the back.

Money talks and it was only a matter of time before the Punch Pubco decided it was no longer viable as a public house.
So easy to demolish great old pubs (Dards being prime example) and replace them with mini supermarkets in this day and age.

If you are looking for someone to blame them blame the pubco that charge extortionate rents to their Landlords (managers nowadays) the breweries that "lock in" said landlords to solely buying beer from them AND lastly but not leastly Labour who introduced the idiotic "beer tax escalator".

The smoking ban has also had a MASSIVE effect on the pub trade whether the government agrees or not.

However, the Royal @ Barugh is a great example of how to take an old building and failing business, do it up and make it nice to attract people in.


Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 18:42
NO pub is safe in this day and age, the Rose and Crown at Darton will be next, you mark my words.....

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 19:13
They make loads of cash at rose and crown it's an inn aswell do food too it's lovely and cheap good for younger punters who go in

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 21:17
They haven't done food for the last couple of years lauren..
Are we talking about the same pub?

Reply Posted by neil b on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 19:37
Whats that song ? " Another one bites the dust ", maybe the men in suits will be happy when they have got rid of another part of our village heritage ,and that corner does NOT lend itself to more traffic. So go and take your "soulless " development elsewhere and leave an important piece of our village alone.

Reply Posted by Guesty Mcguest on Thursday January 23 2014 at 16:19
It is important piece of heritage and should not be allowed to be pulled down whatever happens. Kings head went down hill after Liz left, all it needed was a bit of tlc and keeping well maintained, it's gone downhill since

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 22:21
I live down the road from the pub. They serve food 12-7. I even looked on website just to double check. They do bed & breakfast too.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday January 22 2014 at 23:19
Are you still on about the crown Lauren?
They definitely HAVENT done meals for two years since Christine died love (RIP).
Yes they did b&b for a while but deffo no meals.

Reply Posted by Alex on Thursday January 23 2014 at 00:41
The royal May look good but prices are horrendous, it's going to end up as another failing business as people can't afford them, liberal and crown are down road and are much cheaper, obvious what will happen next

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday January 23 2014 at 10:01
Yes, the Royal may be expensive but I for one would rather sit in nice surroundings and pay a premium than sit in the horrible Rose and Crown which also is somewhat expensive.
I haven't been in the Lib for years as it is about as exciting as watching paint dry.

Reply Posted by Guesty Mcguest on Thursday January 23 2014 at 16:17
I was saying same thing to my other half last week. Kingshead would be a goldmine with a bit of investement. Only need to look at Crown and Anchor, Royal and Talbot, Talbot and crown and anchor are cheaper for a pint than the old talbot and kings head were.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday January 23 2014 at 17:19
I go in the Crown and Anchor regularly, they have got it spot on, nice surroundings, nice food and a lovely beer garden to sit out in when the sun is shining.
haven't been in the Talb since it was bought by that new bloke.
Any good Guesty?

Reply Posted by Liam on Thursday January 23 2014 at 09:23
Mapplwell got more than enough shops there are 3 shops in less than a 5min walk from me and 4 shop in a 10min walk plus butchers a bakery sandwich shop and more and now they want to take away the village pub for more shops we don't need thats just mental

Reply Posted by Guesty mcguest on Thursday January 23 2014 at 18:39
Talbot is spot on I recommend Monday night if you try it for happy hour all bar meals a fiver, all food locally sourced from Ruby's and the like and very nice. Back to how it was a few years ago. Got to say post above is right for best locals in the area, kings head still has potential though just needs private investment and not these crappy brewery's half @rsed attempts

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday January 23 2014 at 19:05
OOH I like the back to how it was a few years ago comment!
Always been a fan of the Talb food and it has always been the "benchmark" for me and the wife.
I tried Barnbrooks but wasn't too impressed, after all its still the wenny with a lick of paint.

Will try the Talb next Monday, thanks for the info.

Reply Posted by Lorraine on Thursday January 23 2014 at 20:31
What concerns me whether it is a pub or a shop is how the hell are they going to maneuver cars for parking, lorries drop of deliveries and pedestrians on that corner. It's not even wide enough for 2 cars to pass. It is ridiculous.

Reply Posted by Kfc on Thursday January 23 2014 at 20:50
High prices. High Overheads for landlords and breweries that charge vasts amount for stock that's tied to tennancys.

Gas, Electric, Water Rates at record prices thens the bussiness rates and then they is the performing rights and the lists goes on.

Pubs are a thing of the pasts our great meeting places are going by the thousands every year.

If it was not for the downturn in house building over the last few years thousand more would have gone.

It's sad but a reality. And before any says supermarkets are to blame for cheap bear.

It may have had some influence in the past but in the last two years all supermarkets have pushed there alcohol prices through the roof and in cans reduced them from 500ml to 440 for more profit.

I use my local private owned pub. A one band operator that buys is drinks at the right money and passes the costs on to customers.

We have Karioke. Sky Sports. bt sports. racing Channels, and 3 TVS showing all diffrent sports at all times.

No food just drinkers and probably cheapest drinks in the Town with approx 7 pubs to choose from in 100 yards radius.

That's the only way forward.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Saturday January 25 2014 at 21:11
Wheres this then Kfc, am I missing sommat?

RE: Supermarkets - At one time of the day you could get 3 cases of 275ml bottles of Stella at T'asda for £20 , I think its 18 bottles of summat like 256ml and you cant get them 3 for £20 nowdays!

Reply Posted by KFc on Saturday January 25 2014 at 21:19
Butchers Wombwell.

The Rhythm & Booze chain used to do a massive wine collection 3 for £10 no more.

Most supermarkets have down sized to 440 cans instead of 500ml.

It's cheaper from local shops than major supermarkets.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Saturday January 25 2014 at 22:56
Not my end of town,but spent a lot of time In my yoof down the well, Butchers too, is it another pub that's changed its name?

Reply Posted by Rog on Saturday January 25 2014 at 10:22
Well if you don't make a pub attractive and a place where people want to go, you will not survive.And lets face it..Their Kings Head has looked tired for years...

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Saturday January 25 2014 at 21:07
I agree with that sentiment Rog, it has defo wanted smartening up for years.

Reply Posted by Karen on Saturday January 25 2014 at 17:25
It's pub co's faults that pubs are getting knocked down because they are greedy gets... I'm the liecencee at the Packhorse in Royston it's god damn hard work running a pub, we work to line the pub co's pockets, they're in that much debt that they are selling their pubs to property developers because they'll get more more that wAy. There will be no pubs left if this carrys on, I blame the pub co's.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Saturday January 25 2014 at 21:13
Totally agree but the smoking ban and the idiotic "beer tax escalator" from Barnsley's beloved Labour Party didn't help.

Reply Posted by ks on Saturday January 25 2014 at 18:37
having lived in mapp all my life(48 yrs), it breaks my heart to see the heritage of the village destroyed before our eyes, fields, schools, pubs,even churches ,nothing is sacred when it comes to greedy developers filling their pockets, the council also have a lot to answer for..disgrace

Reply Posted by kend on Sunday January 26 2014 at 13:55
We don't want no more supermarkets in mapplewell we didn't want the costcutter but we got it so looks like we'll get another one, Find it quite upsetting to see the pub were I spent most of my childhood running around while England was playing and where I went nearly every bonfire night! All this will do is destroy the community spirit even more not like we have lost. 3 other pubs x

Reply Posted by mario on Sunday February 23 2014 at 02:45
I'M now a relief manager that takes over pubs until a new tenant arrives.For the last 26 years.I won't take a tenancy because as mentioned, the pub companies don't care about the pub.the community.the landlord and certainly not the prices they charge.
I've had them close while I've still been living there.They care not.
The key is that it is up to the community to want that pub there. support that pub and stuff to the pub companies.
Shops are two a penny.

Reply Posted by claire on Saturday October 25 2014 at 19:43
I live in mapplewell hopefully a new shop will provide some more competition and drive down prices in other supermarkets. However it is a bad corner. So hopefully they will address this. And we still have the new rd club .. Talbot...barnbrooks and tin hat. Also easy field arms and royal are within reach. So we don't do too bad for pubs.

Reply Posted by steve on Monday November 17 2014 at 00:18
Claire too much competition already, sainsburys is not cheap by any means so won't make that much of an impression anyway. wrong supermarket wrong place

Reply Posted by Gary hemsley on Sunday November 16 2014 at 17:38
People stop supping in your house stop shopping on line support your village ,the place you decided to buy a home the biggest investment of your life You spending a fiver here and there now and again at the butchers or bakers or at the pub it all adds up villages need VILLAGERS. be one make Mapp and Darton proud please

Reply Posted by steve hartley on Monday November 17 2014 at 00:10
Totally agree Gary I don't drink at home I prefer the company / atmosphere that MY LOCAL provides, community spirit is what we need. As for Barnbrooks its not a local its an expensive restaurant with no atmosphere Not a local pub so to speak and as for the Talbot !0 p millionaires pub who think golf is the only GAME(what a waste of a good walk) clicky/ clicky say no more.
Long live the KINGS