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Pensioner's Trial Set To Start At Crown Court

Tuesday January 14 2014




THE trial of a 70-year-old man accused of killing his wife and daughter is due to start at Sheffield Crown Court on Wednesday.

Peter Redfern is charged with killing wife Jean, 67, and their daughter Sarah, 33, who were discovered at the family bungalow on Sandygate, Wath, in July.

Redfern appeared at Sheffield Crown Court last year where he denied two counts of murder.

Post mortem results revealed Jean died from asphyxiation and daughter Sarah from severe head injuries.

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Reply Posted by sue on Tuesday January 14 2014 at 17:52
how can he say it wasnt him when found in home ,plus i dont think he would have been charged if the police and c.p.s were not sure he had done it .poor man 70 years old what would drive him to do this

Reply Posted by lauren on Tuesday January 14 2014 at 18:29
Poor man pffffft more like poor mother and daughter losing there lives to the one person in their lives who ment love and protect them mot flipping kill them not matter what you go through in life there's no excuse for taking another life especially when it come to your wife and child what a silly thing to day poor man

Reply Posted by Me on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 08:25
Give him the George Medal.

Reply Posted by Anon on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 09:40
Just because he has been charged doesn't mean he is guilty. I hope know It alls like Lauren don't get asked to do jury service because she has made up her mind without knowing what evidence they have! Whatever happened to innocent till PROVEN guilty?

Reply Posted by Jamie on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 10:21
Hope justice is done and if proved innocent or guilty it's the victims of this horrible crime that I shall think of .

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 12:53
I am defiantly not a know it all but I have read the full story in the newspaper I am aloud to put what I want and my opinions are my opinion if I think he's done it then that's that I'm not trying to persuade any one that he's done it or put my opinions on to anybody

Reply Posted by Anon on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 13:13
Of course you are allowed an opinion Lauren. That doesn't mean you are basing it on facts and saying you have read the paper article about it doesn't strengthen your opinion. You are not on the jury so who are you to say he is guilty based on what you have read in the paper? I personally don't like to judge people and situations I know little about or put myself across in the way you choose to. Each to their own.

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 13:39
I am 100% sure the police would not charge this man if they did not have the efficient evidence needed to charge him with murder. I don't put myself across as anything I verbalise my opinions and if any one disagrees then fair enough. I may not be on the jury but that does not mean I am not allowed to comment nothing do to with any one what I put, also I am not offending anybody with what I've put. I dont put myself out to be anything like I say my opinions I have the right to express them as long I'm not hurting anyone then what does it matter to you. Your picking a argument with me because I say what I want and it's as simple as that. Why not say the same to Sue's comment? She's practically said the same.

Reply Posted by Pat Walsh on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 18:00
100% correct - He pleaded guilty to manslaughter of his wife and murder of his daughter..

Reply Posted by j on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 13:58
You continue to put your comments on Lauren - we are all entitled to have our say - can't do with the 'always right' brigade - no-one is right and no-one is wrong!!

Reply Posted by Anon on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 13:59
Well if you're 100% sure then that's ok! Seriously, you think the police don't make huge mistakes and ruin peoples lives? Tell that to Colin Stagg! The police make mistakes all the time costing people family, reputation and jobs. Take your head out of your arse and get off your high horse mrs judge and jury!

Reply Posted by Anon on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 14:03
@ j At what point did anyone tell Lauren to stop commenting??? Can you even read?? Just because I disagree with Lauren's opinion doesn't mean I am part of the always right brigade. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Reply Posted by Latest news on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 14:09
Just been on Hallam he's admitted it, so tickle tackling over guys!

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 14:14
Look love I will put what I want. OK! It's as simple as that. The only one who's head is up their arse is you love having a pop at me but don't say nothing to anyone else because I say what I want like I said I'm not offending anyone or persuading anyone or forcing anyone that my opinions are correct. So get off my back and have a pop at some one else.

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 14:16
Hmmmmm after all that I was right. Ahhh breathe of fresh air now my head out my arse.

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 14:55
Looks like my opinions were right eh @anon gone awfully quite now haven't you. Looks like I should change careers and go on a jury team. Infact hang on a min @anon just climbing down from my high horse.

Reply Posted by Maddy on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 16:58
@lauren I've been reading your comments for last few weeks on everything WAB put on here....talk about having your head stuck firmly up your anus...you obviously sit typing away on your computer to try and upset people and all your portraying yourself to be is a sad, no life, know it all, that's never seen or experienced the real world...your very cock sure of yourself sat behind your computer , wonder what you would be like face to face with your comments...seen your type before ....full of it behind a computer... Daren't say nothing when confronted....it's a wonder someone hasn't dropped you like a sack of poo!
How do know if this poor elderly man hasn't had some kind of break down...or worse has had to put up with a wife that's like you...and all the years of hearing crap like what you talk took its toll.......lmao....think about it mrs know it all

Reply Posted by At last on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 17:27
" Well said Maddy" couldn't agree more, spends her life on WAB interfering & upsetting others, bet them finger tips are worn down to stumps lol lol

Reply Posted by Paul on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 17:34
Very unfair picking on Lauren@ everybody is entitled to there opinion if you don't agree with there opinion then ignore and more on..No need to be insulting.. now grow up.

Reply Posted by Maddy on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 17:42
@ Paul ...It's not picking on her at all...if she can dish it ...let her take it too...that's my opinion about her...she's full of it !
All I've read these last few weeks is nasty un warranted comments about people she knows little or nothing about....
She needs to get a life of her own because she's not perfect like all of us!

Reply Posted by Anon on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 18:09
Well said maddy! :-)

Reply Posted by Warrior on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 18:22
Oh Dear looks like we've a party starting. Mr khan can you help sort this out. What happens in your culture.


Reply Posted by mr khan here on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 19:21
Sadly got imposter below.. Mr khan serving Barnsley for over 40yrs,

Reply Posted by mr.khan on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 18:31
Ha warrior me and my beautiful family don't fight you know! I get the bloody prayermat out and shuffle off with my best friend kestrel. Then everyone is my friend, it's a lovely drink,I have sale on kestrel just now.
Pop in to my little shop,and my beautiful wife will give you all you need
She,ll sell you some of that golden kestrel too!
Mr.khan serving Barnsley for 40 years.

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 19:16
So I'm nasty trying to encourage women to smoke while been pregnant, I'm nasty trying make people realise consuming alcohol infront of your children is wrong and inviting violent people into theirs lives is wrong, I'm been nasty when I'm trying my hardest to get people aware of road safety the sake of these kids who getting knocked over also trying to organise a road awareness group to go and visit schools across barnsley, I'm nasty when I try to make people realise that violence is not the way to solve your issues with other. I have the right to comment on these post I'm not hurting anyone anon was saying I judged this man before knowing all the facts might not have been in court hearing and seeing what he did but I made my mind up that he did it some else as stated the same but you'd rather start on me because I am opinionated but I am causing no one any harm and I'm not the type of person who cowards out of saying things to people's faces sorry but if I want to say something I will just like you have and I'm not bothered one little bit that's your opinion of me the wrong opinion but either way each to their own. I don't make out I'm perfect at all I'm a good mum I don't drink or take drugs I work my arse off to better myself as I was a little shit at school due to the things going off at home and I messed my life up but now I'm trying hard to make my life better for my kids and I'm on the right track for success just a few more years at training and I'm sorted. A jury is made up of 12 people I think so it would not be just down to me on this occasion I was correct im not a know it all just opinions and that's that really say what you want call me what you want water off a ducks back I've had worse

Reply Posted by sue on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 19:21
She,s right you know.

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 19:34
Oh god damn phone its ment to say encourage women not to smoke while pregnant I'd never encourage women to smoke while pregnant

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 19:56
@Sue fair enough if you think that of me too your entitled to your opinion of me but I express my opinions and people have they right to disagree with me but I'm not a nasty person or a moron or a prick but like I say people are entitled to have there say

Reply Posted by sue on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 20:02
No love. I meant you're right Lauren.

Reply Posted by Maddy on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 20:00
@ Lauren Lol....well good for you ,being a great mum ,you don't smoke and take drugs...well whilst doing your training perhaps you ought to learn how to write English well! And you say you were a little shit at school well you haven't changed much...
So you never have a glass of wine or go for a meal out with your children ,to a pub where alcohol is served to other people ,around your children ....aww please mrs perfect...you must have a giant halo on your head perhaps we ought to start praying to you as the almighty one....zzzzzzzzzzz

Reply Posted by sue on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 20:07
Are you a scratter Maddy? Cos Lauren is outspoken,but if more people had her morals,the world would be a finer place. She,s got high standards..have you? Let her have her say, she's not vile like some on here.

Reply Posted by sue on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 20:31
Say what you want, Laurens OK. She has good morals and how you can think that makes her eligible for your nasty comments is beyond me. Strange, but I've not noticed any constructive posts from you before. I called you a scratter (low life) because you are knocking Lauren for posting sensible,caring, and often forward thinking posts that often defy her young age. If you disagree with her,it seems you smoked when pregnant, get drunk in front of your kids and use drugs. If not,and you believe all of these things to be inappropriate, then you should be behind Lauren. Like I said,if there were more like her,the world would be a better place.

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 20:40
@Maddy no I don't drink I am tea total well coffee and my English is fine you can read it and so can every one else just trying to pick faults at things am saying and no one else has said anything but you and as for taking my kids out to pubs etc... No I cook from fresh every day as we don't eat out because of the simple fact you pay a lot for crap food so I choose to cook at home to encourage my kiddies to eat healthy and yes I've changed a lot actually I choose to be homeless and sleep rough because my dad was hurting me because he couldn't cope with my mum deaths in and out of care home since I was three then handed back to him and his violent wife to now having a my own house, a car, a hubby to be, my kids are making a good progress at school, I'm training hard to get better qualifications, and my life is getting better and there's no halo on my head as I don't believe in god because he took my mum when I was a baby and did not have the chance to spend time with her like my sister's did but I have pictures to look at and hopefully she will be proud of the progress I have made in life started off rubbish but I've come out the other side with a family a family I can call my own

@Sue sorry I thought you was saying maddy was right about me but she's entitled to say what she think am not a bad person I just try to make people realise there better ways of doing things smoking drinking drug taking all sorts of stuff. I share my experiences to try to help others and thats me just been nasty and making un warranted comments and a moron prick upsetting people etc....

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:15
It really doesn't bother me love apart from bringing my kids into but that just proves how low you really are have put some one kids down to try and get a reaction but I know my kids are great so it doesn't matter what you say about them there good kids hard working and I have had a lot worse love and sue has her own opinions nothing to do with me what she says and not blowing my own trumpet or whatever it is you said I'm just telling you the truth your asking this that and the other I'm just answering and as for the sob story it's not a story it's true but like I say say whatever you want it really doesn't matter because like I say your entitled to your say

Reply Posted by sue on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:21
Maddy you obviously know more about snakes than I do, so go on slither on. Fool!

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:22
My dad could not cope with the fact my mum passed away and left him with 3 kids my other sisters were a bit older than me so they could defend themselves but I was a baby so if you think a baby deserve beating for whatever reason caused him to do it then that is your opinion

Reply Posted by Grammar police on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:24
Maddy @ stop making yourself look a right TIT......DIARRHEA not Diarrhoea---- BREATHE not Breath

Before picking up Lauren on her Grammar i would like to point out " Yours is CRAP,

Reply Posted by sue on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:28
Hahahaha well said Grammar police. Howzat Maddy!

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:31
It's not me honestly i don't have pretend to be some one else and I'm sure you can tell the difference as you say my grammar is crap but think what you like i am not sue

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:32
And I'm not grammar police neither before I get accussed of being that person aswell

Reply Posted by Grammar police on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:38
Lauren @ You sound a like a nice Person. Keep posting your opinions and ignore the trolls. Very sad when Maddy (saddy) pulls you up on your grammar and hers is very poor..Lauren so cool and trying her best now Maddy (saddy) go away.

Reply Posted by Maddy on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:38
@Lauren how did you know you were beaten as a baby...if you were a baby...don't get that ...your too small to remember things like that.

Reply Posted by Maddy on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:42
Grammar police hahaha... You too are not very adept at your grammar lol.
Is that your best maddy(saddy) lol ooooohhhh I'm quaking in my boots....

Reply Posted by Grammar police on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:53
Maddy - You talk a lot of DIARRHEA or in your words DIARRHOEA.

Maddy - You BREATHE not BREATH a lot of hot air and exhale it as DIARRHEA.

Maddy - You look like a right tit when you pull Lauren on her grammar.

Maddy - Now go play because your Hissing me off you SNAKE....hahhaha

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 21:54
Ok fair enough I was wrong to say you said bad things about my kids but bringing them into for no reason is still pretty low they have done or said anything to any one you've got the problem with me not my kiddies. Ok i was three years old still class that as been a baby but fair enough and I remember alot of things more bad than good to be honest with you and when your in and out of care homes and having foster parent after foster parents and I asked for my social services files and the ladies at the nspcc centre went through them with me when I was old enough and there were quite a lot pictures taken by the police and your the one asking me all the question not going to lie about anything just been honest with you don't ask I won't answer simple really

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 22:12
She can say what she wants to say about me and what my dad did there kids out there that's had a lot worst than me at least I managed to escape not like some kids who sadly loose there lives to people like my dad

Reply Posted by Warrior on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 22:23
Been out on a call out Job to come back to this. Mr Khan I thought I left you in charge whats happened here.

Maddy who ever you are. Your posts are quiet rude and are very very personall. lauren is exactly whats right with today's Society. By her own admissions of which you think is right to take the piss out her past.

She is a good mum and has great family beliefs and standards. She might not be every persons cup of tea. Then who is.

What she has done in her short life is done it. And turned her life around.

I don't know you maddy but I know which person I would like as a friend you or lauren.

laureen beats you hands down.

Reply Posted by mr khan here on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 22:29
Maddy you bloody fool- Not welcome in my shop and you def not sharing my Kestrel with Sid,Lauren and kfc,warrior in our ANDERSON shelter. Mr khan serving Barnsley over 40yrs,

Reply Posted by to mr.khan on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 22:35
Don't forget LOL mr.khan

Reply Posted by mr khan here on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 22:43
LOL got a life membership and incharge of fetching the Tv and sky for the footy. Going to pray now got a new mat for xmas, lovely jubley.

Mr khan serving Barnsley over 40yrs

Reply Posted by Warrior on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 23:05
@bullshiman you right I'm eating my chicken as part of my diet and training needs.And yes I'm a very big chap that looks after myself for 30 years teaching Martial Arts in Barnsley.

So stop your bullshit mouth I've had bigger turds firm my arse than you. Also making statements like that can be traced back to your Internet address if investigated by the correct authorities. Some persons comments can be treated as offensive.

Think before you type.

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 23:24
Police will be notified as I might be a bit of a gobshite at times but think it's gone abit too far now no need for this much I've never ever spoken to anyone like that and don't deserve it I would never lie about something so horrid

Reply Posted by Maddy on Thursday January 16 2014 at 10:13
@ Lauren ....are so you do admit you talk shite at times...your quote 'I m abit of a GOBSHITE at times .guilty send you down.

Reply Posted by Warrior on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 23:27
Maddy your making threats and and that's not the way forward.

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 23:38
I was hit never said owt about sexual abuse

Reply Posted by Warrior on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 23:46
Don't comment any further darling these animals are vile

Reply Posted by ron on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 23:49
it is the same person the writing and the grammar gives it away.. WAB will look into the ip address and hopefully the scum is brought to book.

Reply Posted by John Hallway on Wednesday January 15 2014 at 23:50
WAB you have a obligation to make sure people use login names and proper email address. This is a fine example why you need to accept responsibility.

Reply Posted by hard lass maddy on Thursday January 16 2014 at 00:27
U can take steroids legally in the UK but u can't sell um over counter Google it

Reply Posted by hard lass maddy on Thursday January 16 2014 at 00:29
Anabolic steroids legal look that up aswell

Reply Posted by Maddy on Thursday January 16 2014 at 00:36
@hard lass Maddy lol...nice name...never said it was illegal to take steroids ..i said they take illegal roids...as if you get caught selling them it's illegal...yer duuuuurrrr

Reply Posted by hard lass maddy on Thursday January 16 2014 at 00:40
Proove not provoke

Reply Posted by hard lass maddy on Thursday January 16 2014 at 00:46
Illegal to sell
Legal to take
Illegal to sell
Legal to take get it yet or do you want some more

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Thursday January 16 2014 at 09:14
I see the usual WAB suspects are out playing judge and jury.

I hope to God that you aren't picked for jury service.

Reply Posted by Harrogate on Thursday January 16 2014 at 09:29
@ Lauren - No I cook from fresh every day as we don't eat out because of the simple fact you pay a lot for crap food so I choose to cook at home to encourage my kiddies to eat healthy

Ever heard of Michelin starred restaurants dear?

@lauren - I'm nasty trying make people realise consuming alcohol infront of your children is wrong

Dear God. Please don't holiday in France

Reply Posted by bystander on Thursday January 16 2014 at 10:24
I have been reading this thread laughing! Mandy let it go love, you've been trounced!
Good always prevails. Your nastiness wins you no admirers. Have some dignity and call it a day. Your embarrassing yourself now.

Reply Posted by bystander on Thursday January 16 2014 at 10:25
* Maddy..apt name by the way.

Reply Posted by Anon on Thursday January 16 2014 at 10:33
Wow. Just wow.

Reply Posted by lauren on Thursday January 16 2014 at 10:42
Ok I get your point not going to comment on Wab ever again ok youve won ok my partner did not comment on here so I don't know what your on about with that if other people say things that doesn't mean it wad me or my partner I stopped commenting after I put I was hit

Reply Posted by Maddy on Thursday January 16 2014 at 11:23
I'm not embarrassing myself at all...my comments are of real value...I keep being removed because I speak my mind...truth hurts sometimes...sorry if WAB and bystander think I'm some kind of threat...i think the communist did the same gag peoples opinions.... But then Barnsley full of left wing labourits

Reply Posted by Maddy on Thursday January 16 2014 at 11:34
@lauren yes could be a good idea you not making such unfounded opinions about people you know little or nothing about...constructive opinions helpful ...slagging people off when you only read an outline of a story and making judgement based on little evidence not very constructive at all. ...just my opinion

Reply Posted by @maddy on Thursday January 16 2014 at 14:57
So Lauren id not aloud to speak her mind and say the things that she wants to say but you can. How is that right may I ask?