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Chinese Student Accommodation Could Be Built

Tuesday November 26 2013

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STUDENT accommodation could be built in Barnsley to encourage Chinese students to live in the town.

Owen Gleadall, president of the Barnsley chamber of commerce, said the accommodation could be used by students studying at Barnsley College, or at universities in Leeds and Sheffield.

"We've got links with China through education, so they know the capabilities of Barnsley's education system," he said.

"Barnsley College is already delivering A-level courses in Chengdu, a college in China.

"There are 5,000 Chinese students in Sheffield and it's a lot cheaper to live in Barnsley.

"If we had accommodation near the interchange, it only takes 20 minutes to get to Leeds or Sheffield. Students could live in Barnsley for half the price, spend money in the town and still only be 20 minutes away from their universities."

Owen said the current sixth form college building on Eastgate would be ideal - once the college had relocated to Shambles Street - because it was only a short walk from the interchange.

Owen said other sites had been identified including an area at the back of the Digital Media Centre and the old TEC building, off Eldon Street, but said the TEC building may be difficult to convert.

What do you think? A good idea to bring much-needed money into the town centre? Have your say below.

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Reply Posted by cp on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 14:14
Seems stupid to me why not build housing for all those in barnsley currently on the waiting list? Not racist in any way shape or form but why is this aimed at chinese students??

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 16:52
Why not get a job, save up and buy your own property instead of expecting a free house with subsidised rents.
Just saying like.

Reply Posted by TheGuardian on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 17:20
Exactly STEVEO

Reply Posted by Tom on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 13:04
The housing market is not a free market, price floors are set by government and housing price inflation is government policy. Combined with restrictive planning permission and a lack of so called 'social housing', we unsurprisingly have a massive housing crisis/rentiers wet dream, it is de facto serfdom.

Rents are merely a form of private taxation, and any payment in the form of rent, particularly housing benefit and LHA, are subsidies to landlords, not tenants.

People are not free to house themselves. They cannot buy into the ponzi, they cannot access compensation in the form of social housing.

The state via it's laws, and the enforcement thereof thus commits an outright violent attack against it's subjects (me, you and everyone else, in particular those who do not own rights to property in the form of tenancies upon land/buildings, be they freehold, leasehold, or tenancy via a private individual, for profit/not for profit organisations, councils, etc.).

If the state denies the right to it's subjects to construct their own dwellings, then it must provide dwellings for it's subjects.

Buying a house might not be a right, living in one might not be a right, but if you are denied the ability to construct your own, without any burden in the form of taxation, planning permission, previously granted property rights over land, then being provided with a house does become a right.

The state has a duty to house it's people when it bans and restricts them in various ways from housing themselves.
If it cannot house it's citizens, and denies them the right to house themselves then the state is corrupt and an outright failure, it loses it's legitimacy, and should no longer be viewed as a democratic institution with the right to rule it's subjects.

The state is waging an outright war against people in the UK, be they black, blue, pink or yellow. It's authority is diminishing at an alarming rate, our state is a failure and we need a revolution to replace it with a democracy capable of housing it's citizens.

Reply Posted by Jack on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 14:17
I have mixed feelings about this one. I fully support Danny's argument but on the other hand it will also bring much needed finances to the borough, as long as they don;t then try scrounging benefits then disappearing when they don;t go to college. Next thing we know they will be opening up another hand car wash.

Reply Posted by Kfc on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 14:20
Why don't Chinese people have telephones.

There's that many wings and that many wongs.

They Wing Wong Number.

Come to Barnsley and welcome and don't forget your woks. I love a good Chinese.

Reply Posted by ET on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 14:40
Will these Chinese students jump the heaving housing queue in Barnsley and will they automatically qualify for student grants from our depleted educational budget? just saying!!!........

Reply Posted by Sadie on Monday December 2 2013 at 16:43
Mate they pay international fees that is triple amount of the UK home fees so they are not scrounging u fool!! they dont work and here PURELY to study!!!! there u learnt somthing new today...u should be proud! :)

Reply Posted by Thom on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 14:43
Foreign nationals in the U.K on student or working visas put in to the economy whilst taking very little out. Also they have not been raised by the State, meaning no tax payers money has funded their education, healthcare and so on. It costs the State many thousands to raise a U.K born citizen, who will then (in theory) put back in to the pot via tax. A foreigner therefore, has taken nothing and contributes from the off meaning they do more for the economy as a whole then most of us.

Reply Posted by Kfc on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 14:44
You've got it David Cameron has done this been away on a free trip gave them millions of pound of exports and his Barnsley ( Conservative) Labour Councillors !!!!!!! are endorsing his wishes.

More Knighthoods for Barnsley Council & Co whatcha this space.

Reply Posted by ron on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 15:48
There really are some think people about. What on earth does this have to do with people on tbe housing lists? Do universities now have to provide social housing?

Reply Posted by ron on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 15:50
International students aren't entitled to any government help or subsidised tuition fees. In fact their fees ate a lot higher and they pay it all by themselves.

Reply Posted by Jimmy on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 16:04
Will Barnsley College be running units on human rights abuses and animal cruelty? God knows, the Chinese could do with being educated in both subjects.

Reply Posted by cal on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 19:06
do we have enough imigrants in Barnsley ?? let em build it in London seeing as they've sent most imigrants up north Barnsley needs more jobs not students ??

Reply Posted by ron on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 19:17
The universities in London have so much money from the fees from international students. Its good to try attract some of that money to Northern Unis.

Reply Posted by Sue on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 20:08
I wonder if we could have English student accommodation or would that be wasist?

Reply Posted by ron on Tuesday November 26 2013 at 20:22
The accommodation is for all students. They are just hoping to attract the Chinese students.

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 00:28
God there are some thick folk on WAB. I suggest you go to the UK Border Agency site and look at the restrictions placed on foreign students. They cannot bring their famillies here. They cannot claim benefits. They cannot get one of the most coveted things in the world - a Barnsley Council House!!!!!!

They bring money INTO this country!

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 00:33
Only the richest Chinese people can afford to study. Colleges charge a premium for foreign students.

And to the idiots above making jokes about the Chinese language. Get off your arse and learn Mandarin or Cantonese. It might give you a head start in the job market.

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 00:37
@cal - I live in London love. In the London Borough of Brent. I wasn't aware we were sending immigrants 'oop north'

Reply Posted by christine kilkenny on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 07:50
I also moved to London and we have a lot of Chinese in the community,there share my cardboard home in cardboard city were all the drop outs live..low lifes scum and vermin live..i read through the Chinese menu.s in my local chinky.great to learn the Chinese lingo. wat ye want,no 98 menu..

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 08:11
@christine kilkenny - I see my stalker has got out of bed. Do you know how thick you look with posts like the one at 07.50? For a start, I don't live in cardboard city. I own a nice little house in a very posh part of London, So all the drop outs live in cardboard city? I don't suppose you have heard of the Triads? Lovely attitude you have towards homeless people. You are a very backward person. I think if you read your post at 07.50 you will see that.

Reply Posted by grim on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 08:54
Lots of miss informed opinions on here unfortunately.

Intenationak students are not tax payer funded. Nor are they immigrants.
They come over here on visas. If you think a UK university education costs a lot, check out the cost of an international student coming to study here.
These students and their families have lots of spare income and happily spend it in the towns they live in. A small number of students flats would recoup the money quite quickly once they're occupied.

It's all well and good touting your anti-immigrant EDL/UKIP fodder on here, but without actually knowing what constitutes a foerign student, it's meaningless.

I became friends with an asian foerign student. She was filipino. She studied in the UK are college and then at university. Following that six years, she also earned herself a job and eventually after eight years, became and fully earned the right to British citizenship. Never had a tax payer pound spent on her. In fact she ended up putting in more pounds into the system than many british people I know.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 14:50
totally AND UTTERLY AGREE grim.

My partner was at Leicester Uni nearly 20 years ago and there were thousands of foreign students.
One I particular Mai from Malaysia lived in the next door room to my partners in the halls of residence and we often spoke about Malaysia and her uni work, (she was doing archaeology BTW) she told me that she could have gone to any university anywhere in the world but she chose Leicester as they do one of the next Archaeology degree courses in the world.
Her father was extremely wealthy and she never went without anything and was always out wining and dining with her friends.

The tuition fees her father paid were unbelievable too, so one can definitely say that foreign students put far much more into our economy than one would think.

Foreign students ARE allowed to work up to 20 hours a week though.

Reply Posted by GRIM on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 08:55
Note on my last comment:
When I say "These students and their families have lots of spare income and happily spend it in the towns they live in", I mean the families are funding the students living here, not that the families live here.

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 09:31
LOL - I am actually worried about your mental health.

Reply Posted by rainbow on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 10:00
Politicians in this country are obsessed about helping foreign nationals, while our own people struggle with debt, poor housing, and ever increasing bills. Why can't they accept the 'Charity should begin at Home.'

Reply Posted by John Crisp on Thursday November 28 2013 at 12:40
There is no charity involved here or any sort of hand outs. This will help fuel the Barnsley economy.

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 10:06
@LOL Hello Brendan . Please learn to use the space bar. Aren't you meant to sign on today dear?

Reply Posted by ron on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 10:06
They aren't helping them (financially). They will be making money from them.

Reply Posted by Tom on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 13:14
Aye, our trade balance is completely out of kilter, and we cannot pay our way in the world, we need to pay the Chinese back, we need to provide goods or services to them, to get currency to pay them off on the behalf of our state.
The next generation must now become subserviant to the growing Chinese middle class, as ours has been wiped out, that is, if the current state is to be preserved.

Barnsley children need no longer be unemployed upon reaching adulthood, for there will be plenty of work for us to do, in order to improve the life of the Chinese. We can become servants of the Chinese middle class, cleaners, maids, cooks, shop workers etc.

We need to make some money from the Chinese, and they won't buy our tat, so instead we must provide services. Instead of us going abroad to live the lives of kings, the Chinese will come here and do so.
Instead of us exploiting women in the 2nd and 3rd world (mail order brides etc.), the new first world will have the right to exploit us.

Think not of what your country can do for you, bend over and take it like a good peasant, maybe even sign yourself up for a 35 year mortgage and bow down to your new paymasters.

Reply Posted by me on Thursday November 28 2013 at 23:07
Chinese have money!!

Reply Posted by NOT ME on Thursday November 28 2013 at 23:09
Chinese also have a New Year,Dimwit.

Reply Posted by Barnsley Truth on Friday November 29 2013 at 22:36
More rubbish out of Owen Gleadall's mouth. This is the guy who said we can sort out Barnsley town centre's problems with a Mcdonalds and trying to get a Chinese supermarket to attract Chinese tourists, now Chinese students , you couldn't make it up, and how the hell do you get to Leeds in 20 minutes ? Owen chair of governors of a failing school chairman of commerce chambers of a failing town centre, give the town a chance and bugger off.

Reply Posted by Barnsley Entrepreneur on Friday November 29 2013 at 23:25
Really angry about some people in Barnsley they can't see the benefits of opening Barnsley up for Chinese tourists to come by making student & affordable housing for them to live in. These are people who have ever increasing amounts of disposable income that they are willing to invest in our town and it's businesses yet the small minded racists say "there already to many here" we shouldn't let this amazing opportunity pass is by this could be the moment that regenerates Barnsley to make it the prosperous town we all want it to be.

Reply Posted by Barnsley Truth on Saturday November 30 2013 at 00:34
@Barnsley Entrepreneur There= there are to=too is=us good job you didn't need good grammar to make money in your day Owen.

Please give me one reason just one reason that suggests a wealthy Chinese tourist or student would choose Barnsley over any other town or city in Yorkshire ?

Stop living in cloud cuckoo land. Jesus Christ.

Reply Posted by jim on Friday November 29 2013 at 23:35
@barnsley entrpeneur,why would they want to come here though? Not being funny,but there are lots of nicer places in Britain. Wish I could get out to be honest.

Reply Posted by Collet on Saturday November 30 2013 at 00:11
Nowt wrong wit Chinese,it's. Thi local scruffs en scrounges thas to bi freetend on, always shartin en swearing en niver nobody to pur em in the place,could do wi a bit a Chinese disipline rand here it's a R8t dump.

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Saturday November 30 2013 at 00:17
nowt wrong wit Chinese..be a good girl Collet and fetch me number 33 with rice!