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Boy Stabs Love Rival In Jealous Rage

Monday October 14 2013

A BOY stabbed another Horizon Community College pupil going out with his ex-girlfriend after she goaded him into a jealous rage.

The 14-year-old hurt his victim with a penknife, but didn't cause a serious injury, Barnsley Youth Court was told.

The attacker had gone out with the girl for about six months but they broke up, said Gus Kennedy, defending.

Mr Kennedy said: "She was his first girlfriend and a blow like that can hit someone aged 14 very hard.

"It had been a bad day. There had been problems with the ex-girlfriend during the morning break. His temper was aggravated when there was a row with a teacher and he had to spend the rest of the day working alone."

Mr Kennedy said the attack happened on Shaw Lane after school.

He said the former girlfriend called the 14-year-old, from Darton, names and he 'lost it'.

The boy told police later: "I targeted her new boyfriend. There was probably a bit of jealousy because I still have feelings for her. I wanted to cause damage to the new boyfriend but not a serious injury."

Tim Warburton, prosecuting, said the penknife had a 5cm blade. He said the victim, who was also 14 at the time, felt what he thought was a tap on his shoulder. Moments later, he noticed he was bleeding.

Mr Warburton said a doctor described the wound to the victim's right shoulder as 'superficial'.

District Judge John Foster told the boy, who wants to be a journalist, he had come close to being locked up and should have walked away when he was provoked.

Mr Foster said: "This girl is not worth spending time with and is no longer a friend of yours. If you have aspirations, you need to have high self-esteem.

"That relationship with the girl was finished. That does not make you a worse person. You have got to walk through life with your head held high.

"I'm deeply concerned about the way you reacted. You deliberately stabbed a boy. You stabbed him to cause him pain but not serious injury or worse."

The boy admitted having a knife in public and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

He was given a 12-month referral order, the longest order a youth court can impose.

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Reply Posted by Laura on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:05
Isn't this the second time this happened at horizon?? Xx

Reply Posted by Believer of Bob on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:07
todays young love at its finest
come on Awwww with me guys

Reply Posted by dick on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:09
why are they allowed knives at school?

Reply Posted by Sam on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:09
What concerns me apart from the fact that my daughter goes to this school,is why are 14yr olds going to school with pen knives in their pockets?...the world gone mad..the problem these days is that parents are scared to punish their own kids...and this is what we are ending up with...makes you not want to send your kids to school :/

Reply Posted by sid on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:18
It would be an impossible task for the school to search all the kids for knives. Surely this begins at home. If parents can't ensure their child is not carrying a weapon,then how can the school? Its easy to pass the blame to the school. Teachers are there to teach,not frisk the kids.

Reply Posted by max on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:10
broken heart or not (we've all been there).. this boy INTENTIONALLY carried a knife to school to stab the other boy! It wasn't a instant reaction, it was planned. Can someone explain to me what a referral order is cos I'm not sure if the punishment fits the crime? And was the boy expelled?

Reply Posted by kath on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:11
Whats this world coming to if it not adults doing it it's kids.

Reply Posted by karen on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:16
This is the world going crazy!! we getting more and more Americanised every day!! murders...stabbings....attacks....bring back the village policeman!! I was scared to death of him.......also give parents back their rights to smack children that are naughty!!! take away all computers and mobile phones etc......just imagine what its going to be like in the next 20 years...it makes me frightened for my grand children!!!

Reply Posted by June on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:23
They are not "allowed" knifes you imbeciles they sneak them in and teachers are not "allowed" to search them or the parents are up in arms about the "rights" of the child. For goodness sakes there are enough whiners when a child has a stupid haircut and is sent home imagine the parents outrage if their little brat was searched?

Parents need to parent and not to try to be mates with their offspring they need to teach them respect for authority and allowing them to do what they want for a quiet life means you get this sort of behavior.

They need boundaries that's how you love your children by raising them properly and not blaming every bugger else.

Reply Posted by sid on Monday October 14 2013 at 10:46
That's what I think June,but you said it better than me.
Richard, not sure it says the parents allowed the lad to take a knife to school. And what are you calling a shithole? The world? Because it ain't just Barnsley my friend.
I agree that a lot of parents are letting the kids get sexual much too young. Its not good. But its not right to call her a tramp.They are children but being allowed to act as adults for an easy life for the parents IN SOME CASES. BEFORE ALL PARENTS GET STROPPY.

Reply Posted by jimbo on Monday October 14 2013 at 11:55
Well said June

Reply Posted by xxxxx on Monday October 14 2013 at 16:04
My sentiments exactly June - well written. I don't care what anyone says - if the kids are not taught boundaries, respect and manners then this is what happens. Too many parents think giving their kids everything they want is the sign of a good parent - give them everything, but their time!!

Reply Posted by PoG on Monday October 14 2013 at 11:09
Typical knee jerk over - reaction on here to a one off incident

Reply Posted by anon on Monday October 14 2013 at 11:14
It's time these idiots were locked up, carrying a knife is a serious enough offence, without the knife actually being used in an attack. I think the lad has to attend some kind of intervention programme to prevent reoffending, when his 12 months is up they wipe the slate clean, no wonder some young kids don't give a toss about others. This kid should have gone to a Young Offenders Prison, will he learn from a referral order, I doubt it very much.

Reply Posted by KymH on Monday October 14 2013 at 11:28
I don't get it! When ur young relationships seem massive, everyone get cheated on and so on, didn't make me feel like stabbing some1, people need to think, wen me or my group of friends were hurt we looked after each other, how has things got so bad?

Reply Posted by observer on Monday October 14 2013 at 12:37
althought it is alarming or so it would seem? Karen, you mention Americanism. I think reactions are becoming more Americanised. pog, you mentioned an isolated incident. when I was at school kids took flick knives to school. they went to spain, it was ok to buy them from there. everyone wanted to see them. bcos no one had seen a flick knife before. when we went home we used to have toy guns....yes GUNS. WE USED TO PLAY WITH THEM IN THE STREET. if you were to do this today we would probably have the whole street cordoned off and the armed response unit present. this seems a one off unfortunate incident. let it lie. everyone dserves a second chance. he will probably get a lot of stick via nicknames for the rest of his life, everyone has a limit we can be pushed to. so, leave the drama at the door. for sanities sake.

Reply Posted by tut tut on Monday October 14 2013 at 14:36
This is the problem with super schools. Too many kids...All of them can't be searched for knifes but it's up to the parents to ask them and sort something out with them or are they too busy at the pub.
What if this lad just caught his neck and caught his Jug vein. Stupid stupid boy. My lad wont be going to this school thats for sure.
I have heard of lots of the kids take knifes and it's all bragging rights,mines bigger than yours and all that. Come on Parents sort your kids out ffs. NO KNIFES NO MORE!

Reply Posted by Noname on Monday October 14 2013 at 16:05
This is all Absoultley ridiculous this incident occurred over 4 months ago the people who were involved might want to move on from the situation and yet it is being brought up again it is ridiculous.

Reply Posted by ............ on Monday October 14 2013 at 16:33
richard how do you have the cheek to call this girl that you don't even know a tramp and sexualy active?

Reply Posted by on Monday October 14 2013 at 16:38
To be honest the situation has been over exsadurated and blown out of proportion I could probably tell you alot more truthful information on this than is written down up there because it is all very untrue information!

Reply Posted by anon on Monday October 14 2013 at 16:40
If you don't know the family why slag them off if you read what happened on that day nowhere does it say the lad went out of his home that day with the intention of stabbing anyone and how many parents search there children when they go out of the house not any I know so comment but don't slag people off if you don't know them it was wrong what happened but the lads been punished end of.

Reply Posted by katt on Monday October 14 2013 at 17:20
The girl in question is a quiet shy young lady ........so before u insult people ...especially young vulnarable people .......know the facts.......my daughter was there n the boy who was stabbed is a neighbour

Reply Posted by Horizon Student on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:24
Well said katt

Reply Posted by .... on Monday October 14 2013 at 17:42
Dick is off again with his mad assumptions and wild accusations. Calling a 14 year old girl a tramp!? You're not right in the head lad

Reply Posted by Janine on Monday October 14 2013 at 17:50
Richard you are a imbecile, you know nothing about the situation or of the young girl and writing such disgusting remarks on a public forum is just causing more grief and upset for those involved - you never had a girlfriend at 14 ??? Well actually you prob didn't .....

Reply Posted by ..... on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:29
Think of yourself him her situation because I know her and I know that most of the stuff on there is made up. You are calling her a tramp and you don't know her! If she was to read this now how do you think this would make her feel.

Reply Posted by shh on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:35
sorry but most of this is a load of crap

Reply Posted by Anon on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:35
How dare you have the audicity to call someone you don't even know a tramp and how do you know she was goading him. Don't believe everything you read

Reply Posted by A.. on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:40
He may of been nurtured to stab someone or it may be his nature but either way it isn't the norm

Reply Posted by Miss Ola-Craig on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:43
I Understand your point A, however in these circumstances i think that nature has to win this debate also some people may argue that this is breaking the mores not the norm

Reply Posted by A on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:45
Yes but in cases of ferel children mrs ola nurture wins the debate. As they say. Monkey see monkey do .

Reply Posted by Miss Ola-Craig on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:47
Good point A

Reply Posted by .... on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:53
Dick has gone a bit quiet now

Reply Posted by Pupil at horizon :D on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:55
She hasn't done owt wrong seriously get You facts reyt because I know who she is and stop making her feel like utter crap! We have our gsces and your just making it worse for her you outta group up

Reply Posted by justme on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:55

Reply Posted by justme on Monday October 14 2013 at 18:56

Reply Posted by R............... on Monday October 14 2013 at 19:08
The girl that this is blamed on is one of the nicest people i know..... she is one of my best friends.... there was no incident at morning break for the fact she was scared of him.... she didnt goad him.... he said he hated her.... she never said anything to him.... so dont judge her..... you dont know her.... you werent there.... i was and i saw it all.... and no she is not a tramp

Reply Posted by Me on Monday October 14 2013 at 19:14
Thank you!!! :D

Reply Posted by .... on Monday October 14 2013 at 19:42
Take no gorm of one idiot kids

Reply Posted by Tramp on Monday October 14 2013 at 19:46
Thankyou everyone for your support :)

Reply Posted by justme on Monday October 14 2013 at 19:47
ummm what does goaded mean?

Reply Posted by Tramp on Monday October 14 2013 at 19:55
Like as if I wanted him to do it

Reply Posted by T...... on Monday October 14 2013 at 20:01
How dare you call her a tramp she is my best friend and before you ho making stuff up he intensionaly stabbed him she did not do anything to provoke him in any way all the stuff in this article is utter crap you moron stop writing stuff you know nothing about

Reply Posted by Tramp on Monday October 14 2013 at 20:07
Thanks T..... ;) x

Reply Posted by A on Monday October 14 2013 at 20:50
Goaded means to provoke or annoy

Reply Posted by Tramp on Monday October 14 2013 at 21:33
Thanks A :) x

Reply Posted by Becks on Monday October 14 2013 at 23:04
Oh my word! I cant believe people are commenting on the girl in this situation... clearly this boy has issues n shes done well getting away from him or who knows what he could have done! He deserves youth offenders unit its disgusting behaviour. Whats happening to the children of today!

Reply Posted by lee on Monday October 14 2013 at 23:09
Im a year 11 student at horizon and its the crappiest school in england

Reply Posted by Horizon Student on Monday October 14 2013 at 23:27
Yep deffo sounds like horizon.... never had this when we was at kingstone..

Reply Posted by noraa on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 01:02
Im y11 at horizon last year i pulled a pin out of the fire things and got 2 hours a day last year this yere that have only put me in about 3 of my lessons and the rest i do in lsc or im at home i think this is shocking cos noway id get all my gcses when am in 12.45 till 4.15 some days then 10 while 4

Reply Posted by bill on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 10:21
You should have behaved then. Your own fault. Idiot

Reply Posted by noraa on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 01:05
I must say horizons ment to be best school in sputh yorkshire i dont think so it is shit its that bad people get kicked out for cutting one side of there hair for cancer you tell me how bad that is i dont know any of there people but i hope her does his punishment and forgets it all

Reply Posted by lee c on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 08:30
richard, for you to call a 14 yr old girl a "tramp" when you have never met her is sick. how would you like it if the girl in question was your daughter?
you have ranted in your post all about this young lass ( who aint done anything wrong ) but failed to comment on the boy.
i personally think the sentence passed to the youth, sends out the wrong message to others. even carrying a knife carries a custodial sentence.
in all your posts richard, you mark barnsley as a shit hole, not safe, full of smackheads e.t.c..................have you ever thought of moving???? no where will be good enough for you and your daughter. every town,village, area as crime............get use to it.
we have all being there as a teen and in love, and will do anything to protect what we have at the time. he will grow up and look back and realise how stupid he was.
at the end of it all, lessons have been learnt, it will make others think before reacting the same way.

Reply Posted by ??????? on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 09:15
Well I think WE ARE BARNSLEY , should answer all the allegations posted on here, lots of people claiming to have been there, Did you give statements to police?shy girl? 2 boyfriends? If all the posts are to be believed then obviously the court case was based on lies,and he takes a pen knife to school and your wishing him well in the future. Well hopefully in the future when he's bigger and gets a bigger knife it won't be one of your kids he stabs , because he's got a slap on the wrist ,and you all think it should be forgotten. Mmmm begets belief.

Reply Posted by FFS on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 09:16
Jesus wept, why is the school mentioned at all, why not name the village they came from - sensational journalism this and intended to provoke comment by mentioning the school and putting a photograph of the school - it has nothing to do with the school, other than the general state of education and discipline in schools in general is a joke.

Reply Posted by To lee c on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 09:52
Lee you appear to have misquoted quite a lot.

The boy clearly has issues, but we can't ignore the probability that the girl goaded him (after all, that's what the WAB headline states). If she has done nothing wrong at all, then maybe she should consider legal action for the story being misrepresented, as the headline clearly makes her the trigger and proximate cause for the boy to act.

The boys punishment seems very weak considering the nature of his actions.

Quite why a girl of this age is allowed to have numerous boyfriends (before age of consent) is beyond me. Let's not fool ourselves and say they just "hold hands".

To suggest we simply accept crime as part of life isn't going to help generate a better society, it will just mean crime will step up a gear and things will get more frequent and more serious.

Reply Posted by lee c on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 10:10
proximate cause for the boy to act.????? oh thats ok then......if its ok ( as you put it ) then you as bad as he is!!!!!!
example: " the boy called me names so i shot him"?????
he committed a crime, he his old enough to know its wrong to go round stabbing people, and the sentence passed was a joke.
also, i was not aware that it was against the law to have a boyfriend/girlfriend before the age of consent. you are judging a girl, who you have probably never even met.
and to state that there are towns/citys that are going to be crime free by generating a better society............your the one that probably needs help.

Reply Posted by To Lee on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 10:38
Lee, in part I was agreeing with you.

The boys sentence seems weak considering his actions.

His actions (as reported) came as a reaction to the girl goading him. Would he have been so disturbingly aggressive had it just been a platonic friendship with a girl? It is highly likely to suspect that the boy had a relationship with the girl where they did more than "hold hands". He is 14, not 16 and it's reported he had (for his age) a long term relationship.

Where was it suggested a crime free town or city exists? It wasn't. You are repeatedly misquoting and exaggerating to create an argument. It was said that we shouldn't simply accept crime, regardless of how much or how little, crime is crime and we should all do our part in reducing it, not accepting it.

Reply Posted by .... on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 12:24
Bit late with the censorship aren't? His disgusting comment was up 24 hours was that so the kids could see it and add to the 'debate'. Bottom line is this was over and done with months ago throwing it back up there does no one no favours especially the kids. Lazy journalism at its worst. I'm sure this will be removed shortly

Reply Posted by Joe on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 13:16
This little thug should be locked up. Instead he is patted on the back and told he was a bad boy. Maybe one day he will attack someone in the magistrates family?
I wonder what would happen then? It is obvious that this boy is not normal, so should it be left at that, I do not think so.

Reply Posted by June on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 15:22
Blaming the girl is like saying girls in short skirts deserve to get raped.

No matter what the perceived provocation normal people do not stab others.

It does not matter what this girl did or not do. She broke no law, she was never on trial and trying to put blame onto her is just sickening.

If it were a 14 year old boy on his second girlfriend with and the first stabbed the second - this page would be full of psychotic bitch comments. Not blaming the boy.

Shame on you that you react in such a way,

Reply Posted by TheEx on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 18:08
Hmmm I really do not know what to say to you all other than this article has really portrayed me as a bitch (mind my language) but I actually can tell you that this didn't happen I did not goad him I was terrified of him after things he said I would not goad him into doing something like that would I? But I really do not care what any of you say about me anymore because the incident happened so long ago that it really doesn't bother me I don't wanna live in the past!

Reply Posted by saf on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 19:12
Why dont they bring back the cain or the black pump!!! the bloody humiliation of stood infront of the school getting ya ass smacked was enough for anyone to keep their head down, and everyone was shit scared off doing anything wrong. when i was at school there was never such a thing as stabbing, smoking just the odd pettiness. yes there was the occasional fight but we were too scared of what would happen to us, or what our parents would do when we got home.
this world as gone mad!!!! ALL children need a little discipline, or a good bloody hiding in some cases.

Reply Posted by Miss.N on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 20:24
"To lee c" - I had boyfriends at that age, it doesn't mean I slept with them. Don't paint all girls as loose ta! And to the girl in question, hope he doesn't bother you anymore love, glad you got away from him when you did.

Reply Posted by .... on Tuesday October 15 2013 at 20:43
To lee c. Is obviously Richard

Reply Posted by The mother on Wednesday October 16 2013 at 07:08
Thank you for those people who have defended my daughter, as for those who have slated her seriously ? What on earth do you know ??? The police never questioned my daughter regarding his alleged version even though we requested this several times, she was scared of him and so was i to be honest, The evening of when this happened he even threatened her friend in messages if she didnt get messages back to alex after been in police custody ! none of this was mentioned in the report ... Or the fact he was goading her into killing herself whilst we were on holiday the week before... Disgusting half a tale and people judging a 14 year girl who went through such an ordeal, and for the record he followed them home sound like someone been goaded ??

Reply Posted by someonewhoknows on Thursday October 17 2013 at 00:02
I don't know how he managed to send messages on the evening, given that he was locked up overnight, his phone and all means of communication confiscated by the Police, I also saw ALL the messages about the goading whilst on holiday, and it was far from one way!

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Wednesday October 16 2013 at 08:49
@The mother - I hope your daughter is okay now. To be honest We Are Barnsley is a forum that attracts scumbags. They are only having a go at your daughter because there isn't a current thread about people on benefits. Come to think of it there isn't one about immigrants at the moment so they all pilied on this one xx

Reply Posted by To the mother on Wednesday October 16 2013 at 09:51
The story was written and headlined in such a way that it provoked a reaction. If it was falsely reported, then you need to take it up with the journalist, as clearly if something is misreported then they are at fault for provoking any hurt caused.

It's good that you've had an opportunity to put your side forward and I hope the police and CPS have done their job properly.

Reply Posted by E......... on Wednesday October 16 2013 at 12:05
wtf has alex done wrong and why are the blaming her shes my friend so get lost them who are thinking its her....

Reply Posted by Swifty on Friday October 18 2013 at 20:09
The is two sides to every story and we will probably never Know the true facts lets not all get carried away in Have and have not's .

What is clearly the point is once again a young person has carried a knife with intent to endanger or frighten a person.

Every week in major city 10's of young people are stab some with devastating results.

Until young people are educated to the dangers of carrying a Knife and the Courts start automatic Jail sentence for carrying a knife or offensive weapon.

Sadly nothing will not change and the numbers will just go increasing as sure as Day Follows Night.