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Teachers' Strikes - A WAB Debate

Thursday October 17 2013

Teachers' strikes - what do you think? Teachers' strikes - what do you think?

ARE teachers' needs being ignored? Should they be allowed to strike? Or do you think they should be stopped due to the disruption it causes for parents and pupils alike? Have your say on today's WAB Debate.

Recently, more than 40 schools across Barnsley were closed as teachers went on strike in a dispute over pay, pensions and working conditions.

Primary and secondary schools were closed to pupils as members of the National Union of Teachers and the National Association of Schoolmasters and Union of Women Teachers protested about changes to their pensions, increased workload and government plans to bring in performance-related pay from this autumn.

"We don't think it's sustainable to be working every night, working late, working weekends and holidays, but nobody seems to be saying that's not reasonable," said one Kirk Balk teacher.

Where do you stand on this? Are you sympathetic towards teachers and their workloads? Are you in favour or against their strike? Have your say below.

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Reply Posted by Mummy of three on Thursday October 17 2013 at 12:14
I think its wrong to for them to keep striking as we get a fine ect for taking our children on a holiday but they can strike and make my children be off school again but its fine for them and thats disrupting there education with days off here and there, it's a joke!

Reply Posted by Jud on Thursday October 17 2013 at 12:19
Teachers are only contracted to 6 months work but get full pay, and pensions like no one else which they don't pay for (or a pittance of what they get out) the tax payers once again pay in, where's my finally salary pension? oh that's right i cant afford one because of all the public sector workers pensions im having to pay for, they got it far too easy they all have that's why the country is down the pan, as too many of these commitments have been made by the last lot, because it wont be them having to pay for them. Ridiculous !

Reply Posted by Nookie Thompson on Thursday October 17 2013 at 12:23
Fair play to the teachers - fighting for what they believe in. It's the Governments fault.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday October 17 2013 at 18:56
Spot on!

Reply Posted by Nookie Thompson on Thursday October 17 2013 at 12:27
Mum of 3 and jud - your comments make you sound like a bunch of slackos

Reply Posted by dedatodd on Thursday October 17 2013 at 12:27
As with the fire service, good on them. A contract is signed and should be honoured simple as. The strike a day here and a day there, not weeks on end if parents are worried about their child's education then ask the school for extra work to cover the day - I expect my son to do school work if they are on strike (its not a day off for him).
As for 6 months? I think you will find that teachers work far beyond 6 months a year and a days work isn't 9-5.... Public sector take the hit in size of salary and sign on knowing this, hence the final salary pension!

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday October 17 2013 at 18:57

Reply Posted by PantoFlaps on Thursday October 17 2013 at 12:31
Well said dedatodd

Reply Posted by Annoyed on Thursday October 17 2013 at 12:47
Everyone has the right to strike for what they believe in we live in a free country.

Reply Posted by deary me on Thursday October 17 2013 at 13:14
I believe ppl do have a right to strike but maybe only in professions that would not cause distruption and your child not being at school can cause alot of distruption for the working family who need to make alternative arrangements ( luckily my kids are grown up) i work in the care profession where i am NOT allowed to strike because if i did who would look after your elderly family ? and the pay is poor and no full pay on sick either....while teachers moan about pay take a look at professions that get overlooked and ALOT of ppl need that.

Reply Posted by GGPennyworth on Thursday October 17 2013 at 13:18
I think people should look to Mr Gove and the government before casting aspersions at people trying to defend there living, jobs and what's left of our educational system. The sooner people wake up to the mess this lot-and successive governments-have been at the better. Pigs in a trough.

Reply Posted by dedatodd on Thursday October 17 2013 at 13:25
Successive governments have 'played' around with the education system for too long. Its just a surprise that the teachers have taken so long to anger, maybe the final straw was the fact that they have put up with all the sh*t dealt them and when pensions became a target it was the last straw.
Its time for a cross party consensus on education and then education is left for 10 / 20 years rather than tinkering every year / term / month.

Reply Posted by Purple Haze on Thursday October 17 2013 at 13:25
Good on them. We must ALL stand up to the pension raiding, rights eroding government. They would have everyone have no pension, working until death, no holidays, longer hours etc etc. In fact that is exactly what working lives used to be before we had unions and working rights that we fought for decades ago.

As for the silly comments about how it causes disruption to parents as they have to rearrange child care - well school is not child care!!

The right to strike should not be taken away. After all, all you are complaining about teachers and firefighters striking, you too may need to strike very soon. look what happened to the miners when they striked, they ended with nothing because nobody supported them after a few months.

Stop being selfish and allow hard workers to do what they must to protect not only their jobs but the future careers of our kids.

Reply Posted by Annoued on Thursday October 17 2013 at 13:29
I have young children and yes it's disruptive but they are entitled to strike.

Reply Posted by Unna bashed on Thursday October 17 2013 at 13:32
A lot of people on here will be upset because their daily dose of Jezza Kyle and Loose Women will be severely disrupted...

Reply Posted by Scargill on Thursday October 17 2013 at 13:36
I reckon everyone should go out on strike like in the 80's ... And get totally bazzemed in brammers lol

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Friday October 18 2013 at 09:12
@Unna bashed - LOL at your comment. I bet the sales of Greggs sausage rolls and Fruit Shoots went up yesterday. They will have bought them to keep the little mites quiet so they can watch Jeremy Vile in peace.

Reply Posted by me on Sunday October 20 2013 at 09:09
All these people who have negative remarks about schools should try working at a school. Some of you have not got a clue how hardwork and busy it is. I was a teaching assistant and it was a very full day even I was amazed at how much extra teachers do even after school hours. So come on you folk volunteer to help at school you will see how much work it all entails.

Reply Posted by anon on Sunday October 20 2013 at 09:41
The teachers make me sick. They have the union fighting for cheap holidays just for teachers. At junior level they reward bad behaviour, by letting disruptive kids go on all the school trips. The teachers at Shafting ALC took as much time off during school term as the kids, this was highlighted in the ofsted report. I asked about this and the teacher didn't bother giving an answer. If the teachers are as good as they make out then pay based on how good they are doing shouldn't be a problem.

Reply Posted by craig moffatt on Sunday October 20 2013 at 09:51
Jud - no one else gets pensions like teachers? Police? My uncle got an amazing pension at 45 from the navy. Here's a little fact about the teacher's pension scheme - we have paid in 54 billion more than has been paid out but still have had our pension contributions increased. Where's the rest of that money?

Reply Posted by Jane on Sunday October 20 2013 at 10:34
Some really sensible comments for a change! Unless you have been a teacher, you have no idea about the workload. When does the marking, assessment, preparation, planning , resource making/prep, classroom display making etc etc etc get done? Certainly not during school hours! So that must be after 4pm then. I'd say a couple of hours a day. Long holidays....yeah, spent planning new topic work, changing displays in the classroom, etc etc! You cannot imagine! Let's not forget the verbal, emotional and physical abuse that teachers live with daily! I know from experience, I'm not just making these things up! The people who send their young children to school in dirty clothes, without even a drink of milk in their poor little tummies, complaining that their child's jumper is lost again (but they couldn't be bothered to put their child's name in it) are probably the ones who are objecting! everybody has the right to draw attention to their issues.....to strike.

Reply Posted by craig on Sunday October 20 2013 at 10:38
Well said Jane! X

Reply Posted by Fred on Tuesday October 22 2013 at 12:03
Jud your ignorance of the situation is... Well, it's beyond pity!

Reply Posted by cozz on Tuesday October 29 2013 at 00:51
teachers all ways say we need to be in school all time and they think its acceptable to strike and waste our learning time