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Help To Work Scheme - Are You In Favour?

Friday October 11 2013

Tough new rules on long-term unemployed - are you in favour? Tough new rules on long-term unemployed - are you in favour?

IT'S been just over a week since George Osborne announced the 'Help to Work' scheme. It will impose the most stringent conditions ever on the long-term unemployed to end the option of 'signing on as usual'. What do you think to it? Do you think it's unfair on the long-term unemployed or are you in favour? Have your say on our WAB Debate.

The Chancellor announced that out of work benefits will only be paid to those who do voluntary work or those who opt to attend the Jobcentre every day - currently they're required to attend once per fortnight.

This scheme will be rolled out in the next six months and claimants will have to do one of the following:

- Full-time community work

- Attend the Jobcentre and search for work every day

- Enrol in a new 'Mandatory Intensive Regime' which the government says will 'tackle the underlying reasons' for not working

The penalty for failing to adhere will be the loss of four weeks’ worth of benefit for a first breach, and three months' worth for any second offence.

It's the first time the UK has had a national scheme which will require the unemployed to do community work over a long period or face the prospect of losing their benefits.

According to Osborne, the community work will include making meals for older people, cleaning up litter and graffiti, or working for local charities.

It will impose the most stringent conditions ever on the long-term unemployed as Mr Osborne pledges to end the option of 'signing on as usual'.

Having had time to think, what are your opinions? Are you in favour? Have your say below.

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Reply Posted by Mick on Friday October 11 2013 at 11:42
I'm not against it as long as the work & activity are productive. I doubt that DWP can come up with programmes that fill the amount of time adequately rather than just keeping people hanging around.

A lot will say it's slave labour but let's say you're getting £71 JSA, £95 Housing Benefit & £15 of Council Tax Benefit a week, that's £181 a week - you'd need to work about 30 hours at minimum wage to earn that.

Reply Posted by mark on Friday October 11 2013 at 11:51
yes it right i get £233 a week ever in that is for doin noting and went it cold get bit more that not right now is it. i would need to 40 hour to get that. but if they what to pay me for noting that ok with me.

Reply Posted by switch on Friday October 11 2013 at 12:35
I hope you haven't any children... what a way to drag them up, don't work kids just get hand outs like your dead beat dad. What an example and waste of life. You are the reason why genuine people looking for work are getting slated.

Reply Posted by mrx on Friday October 11 2013 at 12:11
Make sure the choose the longterm thats allways in bookies or pubs and not those long term who try hard to get a job

Reply Posted by about time on Friday October 11 2013 at 12:30
Its a great idea. Half of barnsley think its a career to sign on dole and get there "free money" then spend it in pubs. Its a joke that theres no jobs about theres plenty n how many of these long term signers will go out and get a job if theyre threatened with this probably half of them if not more. Should have done it years ago and stopped the benefit culture before it started

Reply Posted by Dannyboy on Friday October 11 2013 at 12:45
All the voluntary organisations college ticket hold their breath as they envisage managing and supervising volunteer who don't want to be there, are they going to get an incentive for this? Probably not, even more pressure on an already stressed sector....

Reply Posted by Dannnyboy on Friday October 11 2013 at 12:46

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday October 11 2013 at 13:16
Yes it's a good idea. If they suspect benefits are being spent in pubs and bookies, then introduce a voucher system for these dead beats so they can only spend this money on food and essential utilities etc.

Reply Posted by anon on Friday October 11 2013 at 14:01
One family on the dole told me they had to get to the post office to draw their wage out of the bank, unbelievable.

Reply Posted by sid on Friday October 11 2013 at 14:19
Yes anon, same here. The terminology used at the benefits office etc doesn't help. They call people customers and clients. I'm a flipping taxpayer,not by choice as a customer or client would be. Do they still use "benefits claimants"? Not sure. I,m not sure some of the claimants actually "get it". They really do believe its a wage and they are fully entitled to it. I do begrudge paying in sometimes. While I'm on,I do believe that the government should sort a scheme out that entitles every tax payer to a few free prescriptions per year,if you didn't need to use them within that year,then they are void,with new ones awarded for the next year. Haha,off the point,but never mind.

Reply Posted by help sid on Friday October 11 2013 at 14:46
I work and sadly not everyone is fortunate,sid and all the other tax payers,less than a penny goes towards people on benefits,why when you pay your taxes you think you are keeping the unemployed,get a grip,

Reply Posted by STEVO on Friday October 11 2013 at 16:31
You're wasting your time mate, the large majority of the idiots that post on here believe everything that is printed in the Sun and other Tory loving papers.

Yes you are indeed correct, less than a penny goes to unemployment benefits.

The only benefit that has grown exponentially over the last decade are Tax Credits.
Hardly surprising when "crap" employers pay the benchmark minimum wage in this day and age in our town.

Reply Posted by sid on Friday October 11 2013 at 16:37
A A At Stevo, we,re not all crap employers.

Reply Posted by STEVO on Friday October 11 2013 at 17:38
Sid, never said you were did I?
In fact, last week I complemented you on your management skills by rewarding your hard working employees that "shine" and giving them a pay rise did I not?

The large majority of the bigger employers pay the minimum wage in our town as it is the benchmark.
Said employers also employ people via agencies (which are indeed crap employers) starting off on the minimum wage.
Many of these agencies do NOT comply with employment agency law put in place to ensure that agency workers are treated equally (equal pay after 13 weeks to name but a few) and are very fond of zero hours contracts which need banning with immediate effect in my humble opinion

Reply Posted by sid on Friday October 11 2013 at 20:44
Yes you did Stevo, I thought you,d forgotten. Sorry.
Also I agree with the second part of your post. I,m proud that my workforce stay with me for years,and that we are all good pals too.

Reply Posted by ANON on Friday October 11 2013 at 14:54

Reply Posted by Cheryl on Friday October 11 2013 at 14:56
My scrounging step brother has openly bragged that he is 'better off not working'......he's 47 and had one job 22 years ago. What a scum bag. There's not a thing wrong with him he's just a lazy b@star9 who thinks it's funny that he gets to drive round in all expenses paid car that's for his 'disabled' other half.......and there's nothing wrong with him! Bet the government wouldn't be impressed to see him using his wife's disability car to do cig runs to France.....!!? Oh, and selling them in local WMC'!

So in my opinion, people like him who have zero intention of working should be forced to do SOMETHING

Reply Posted by makes me mad on Friday October 11 2013 at 15:07
Shop em Cheryl.

Reply Posted by jealous on Friday October 11 2013 at 15:52
Cheryl the squealer,what a sad person you are,you will take his fags and booze from france for xmas pressi,two faced lying cow

Reply Posted by sid on Friday October 11 2013 at 14:57
I'm not talking about all claimants you plank. Some folk need the benefit system as you or I may one day.
I'm posting about the cheats, so you don't need to get uppity. You get a grip.

Reply Posted by Cheryl on Friday October 11 2013 at 16:26
Aww @jealous.....go finish your application for the Jeremy Kyle show you scrotum!

Reply Posted by Cheryl on Friday October 11 2013 at 16:30
By the way 'jealous' bet you're the type of scratter that buys these illegal cigs in New Lodge Club! I can hold my head up high, pay my way, live in my own house and drive my nice car - paid for by me - not my next door neighbours! Now I could squeal about scroungers all day, but I'm not stereotyping everyone claiming job seekers allowance, but it's arse holes like you and 'ANON' that create the animosity towards the unemployed. Don't worry about shopping em 'makes me mad' I've videoed her walking through New Lodge walking her £500 dog (apparently she can't walk to the toilet!) so watch this space!

Reply Posted by jealous on Friday October 11 2013 at 17:15
squirrel or is it Cheryl,you can write all you want on ere,about lies and how you got this and got that,you are a very sad person,i see you in the new lodge talking to all the benefit people and next behind there backs you slate them,you take cheap fags and bacci and beer for xmas,you are a spineless hypocrite,we all no who you are,,,,,weasel face,,,

Reply Posted by Cheryl on Friday October 11 2013 at 17:37
Well you are certainly thicker than first thought. For your information, I don't live locally and certainly don't socialise in any WMC's! Maybe you should challenge your suspect directly next time you're pissing your dole money up the wall! What a tosser you are!

Reply Posted by abdul asif cornershop king on Friday October 11 2013 at 18:14
you make me laugh Cheryl,me and my beautiful family and of course in laws ,interbreds,we have live in this country 15 years,claimed for everything you can possible receive,nice 4 bed house,merc 15 seater for all the family,yes on disability,no bedroom tax to pay,to many live under 1 roof,gutted about paying a small percent of c tax,you keep working and leave my family to claim,more the fool you,,

Reply Posted by Carl on Friday October 11 2013 at 17:42
Here, here STEVEO! Well said

Reply Posted by MrsMail on Friday October 11 2013 at 19:13
(Sits back, opens popcorn)

Reply Posted by swifty on Friday October 11 2013 at 21:04
The "Can Work Wont Work" that's the group that should be targeted.

Then the people of Barnsley need to stop voting the The Smiling assassin,s Labour Councillors in Power.

Reply Posted by equinewoman on Friday October 11 2013 at 22:31
I,ve a great idea ,...for the Back to Work Sheme,..of which I am in Favour big Style,....send em onto to overstretched and busy NHS Ward,s as assistant Auxiliary Nurse,s,or domesticc,s,..to help on and maintain the ward,s particularly the Elderley Patient,s,..and make them work shift,s tooo

Reply Posted by Hardworker on Friday October 11 2013 at 22:50
I am at a loss as to why Benefit Claimant,s of 3 year,s or more are so against this,..and single parent,s bemoaning the fact they have offspring,,...plenty off people do and have to make do,..it,s about time these radical change,s come into force,...3 year,s !!! in the US you have 6 month,s from day one,...get away from the TV an chatting and shopping and embrace it,,..it may lead to life changing event,s,...

Reply Posted by group leader on Saturday October 12 2013 at 10:58
It just gets worse on here. Workers get angrier and more disgusted and the non workers more stubborn about having to work/or have benefits cut plus they get nastier towards those that work. Then there are the obviously teenage saddos with their filthy remarks which help nobody.

As hardworker said above, surely the unemployed need to see that they cannot and should not remain on the dole for life. All they do is show their kids a bad way of living. They need to retrain or reeducate and find a job, any job even if it is minimum wage. If you want better then work for it.

If the unemployed fail to work when they can then they will find that their benefits will slowly be eroded. Just wait until the Universal credit arrives.......

Reply Posted by barnsley bill on Saturday October 12 2013 at 12:18
its wrong to expect the long term unemployed to work for their dole.all you tory lovers who have had the nerve to comment on this thred make me sick with all your bullshit tory crap.its you people that have made this country what it is.

Reply Posted by barnsley born and bred on Saturday October 12 2013 at 12:33
well said bill....I have been lucky to work all my life until recently retired,i am all for the unemployed working,but pay them a wage,if there is jobs for them to do,let them sign of,all you tory lovers,would you work 30+ hrs for less than £100..NO YOU WOULD NOT,the country sould unite,all this is doing it setting up hatred between the working and the unemployed,when most of Barnsley who work claim working tax credits or other top up benefit,this is telling you the wages are crap,if the government set a precidant and forced the min wage up to a sensible figure were no workers were having to top wages up,grow a backbone people of Barnsley,cant you see what the government is doing,

Reply Posted by STEVO on Saturday October 12 2013 at 13:28
FINALLY two people that can see the bigger picture.

Reply Posted by xxxx on Saturday October 12 2013 at 13:14
here here barnsley born and bred. why should people who have fallen on bad times be forced to work for their benefits, if theres work out there for them to do then pay them a proper wage,theres talk that more council workers could be laid off in the next round of council cutbacks well guess who will be doing their jobs.im not against unemployed people working just not being paid a pitance and taking jobs of people who have been made redundant,these people are going to end up doing exactly the same job but for a lot less money.how can this be fair.oh and equine woman in theory it would be great to be able to put them to work on our wards but in practice i wouldnt want someone who is being forced to be their looking after cleaning or maintaining any ward one of my relatives were on ,i want people who are there through choice and who care looking after them .dont you.

Reply Posted by x on Saturday October 12 2013 at 13:23
how can anyone defend a government who's leaders father is recieving £1000 a day for having a wind turbine on his land.365 days in a year do the maths.then he as the cheek to say someone on benefits gets too much and should have to work for what they do get .shame on you cameron and all your up their own ass followers.£365,000 a year its disgracefull,you can certainly see how his family are doing their bit.in it toghether my backside.and yes i do work

Reply Posted by sid on Saturday October 12 2013 at 13:44
@x I didn't know that. I'm getting more and more info from this site, but I don't like what I,m learning. It makes me despair. I'm realising how and why some of the posters on here are so angry. There's nothing we can do really about any of it,that'sthe pproblem. I don't know how some of the people,like you have posted about can sleep at night. It disgusts me.

Reply Posted by x on Saturday October 12 2013 at 14:23
its sad sid the only in it togethers are the benefit claiments and lower paid workers,we are the only ones suffering,people on benefits having their money slashed, low paid workers getting no pay rises, losing their right to contracts ,no garanteed hrs .no garanteed jobs,low paid jobs being lost every day. this in it together slogan the conservatives seem so happy to bandy about so readily is exactly what we should be, in it together to stop this government

Reply Posted by sid on Saturday October 12 2013 at 14:47
Yes @x, but I think the others are as bad you know. I'm not sure that labour would do any different. I'm getting more and more dissallusioned . when voting time comes who the hell do we trust. Stevo has posted lots of stuff on here that I didn't know too, As a small employer,I can see loads of things I would change, but as soon as you air your voice to those who can change things,they pull holes in all that you say, and most of us are so busy doing our day to day business,its too much of an uphill battle. Defeatist, I know. I really admire many of the posters on here, I have,t got the knowledge or fight that I should have. I realise that I am exactly what the government likes, paying PAYE for my staff, VAT,cooperation tax, the list is endless.But what can I do. Its Bad to the Bone. They win every time,no matter what colour flag they cosy up under. If they make people work for their benefits,its another kick in the teeth for the general public. If you don't work,will they allow people and their children to starve. Council workers will end up getting the push due to cutbacks,only to do the same jobs but for less money. Its wrong.

Reply Posted by STEVO on Saturday October 12 2013 at 16:58
The Tories are only interested in one thing MONEY, the large majority of Tories are millionaires and have business interests that give them wealth too.
Then it comes as no great surprise that they want to ostracise the poorest in society by making them work for FREE.

If someone has been out of work for three years or more then as far as I am concerned there is a either a problem with said person or there aren't enough jobs to go around.
Yes there will always be a "hardcore" element that just will not work, or the i'm not doing that shitty job for minimum wage people.
The Tories are trying to "eliminate" these people by putting crazy schemes in place that just do not work.

The workfare scheme is a classic example and I am sure you have seen the posts I have put on here regarding Pound land so i'll not bother elaborating any further.

The Tory "machine" is Nazi esque in its attitudes to poor people, by slashing benefits, making the disabled have constant re-assessments and shoving them into minimum wage jobs just so the unemployment figures look better.
Classic example, a disabled man goes for his reassessment and has a heart attack in the room but is yet found fit to work!

Where do you think the Tories got their wealth from?
Did their ancestors go panning for gold on the Somerset downs?

Over the last century they have got their wealth from normal hard working people that have given their all for very little in return.

The Tories these days are all Eton educated and have massive trust funds, especially George (Gideon) Osborne.

They are born into wealth and privilege on the backs of the hard working people that they have systematically subdued by paying them the least possible amount that they can get away with.

The North / South divide rich/poor debate will always rage on, but statistically there are more millionaires in London than there are in the rest of the country.
Second place for millionaires is Cheshire, footballers you see.
I have been to Alderley Edge where a large proportion of the millionaire footballers live and it is like being on a different planet.

Back to the Tories, they actively encourage immigration as it gives their rich industrialist cohorts a cheap supply of labour.
As long as they (Tories) are kept in clover and hang on to their wealth,they couldn't give a monkeys about the average joe in the street.

They use their nefarious propaganda arms such as the Sun and Daily Mail to spin their lies and rhetoric about benefit claimants and label them as "workshy scroungers" even though the amount the government spends on benefits as opposed to the tax the claw back is absolutely MINISCULE in comparison to the revenues they receive in tax.

1% is the figure

Pensions and tax credits are the most that the taxes are spent on.

If employers were made to pay a living wage then there would be NO tax credits!


The Labour party have failed to remain to remain true to the original ideals of why the party was set up for in the first place, set up by workers for the workers to stop rich industrialist from taking advantage of the workers.

A large majority of the Shadow cabinet ministers are also born into wealth and privilege.
They do not speak up for the average working man and are nothing more than Tory lite nowadays.

I have had it with them I will never vote Labour whilst ever I have breath in my lungs.

I fervently hope that people finally wake up and realise that Labour are exactly the same as the Tories and show their displeasure at the ballot box, I can never see this happening in my lifetime though.

Stevo over and out.... For now.

Reply Posted by sid on Saturday October 12 2013 at 15:00
Hey x, I wish I hadn't posted that in a way. If everyone thought the same as me,with my defeatest nature,it would be a bad world. Like I say,I take my hat off to the rebels on here (except Mae, she's bonkers lol) and long may they fight. The best I can do is write any correspondence to the inland rev in red pen. Which I do. Lol.Poor eh. I did write to downing street once and aired my views,I did get a reply too. The matter I was angry about,did go my way,so I felt brill for a couple of days. How funny.

Reply Posted by Sally on Saturday October 12 2013 at 15:07
Its about time the Government changed the benefit system and make it less appealing to be on. Too many people see it easier not to work for a living as they're actually more financially better off than some lower paid workers. Some working families who are just above the threshold level for receiving any assistance from Working tax credits for example are finding they're worse off than some on benefits. After payment of either mortgage or full rent, full council tax other utility bills plus payment for prescriptions, dental care and school meals in some cases these people have less disposable income than a family receiving benefits, full housing benefit, full council tax benefit, free prescriptions, free dental care, free school meals. There's definately something not quite right here.

Reply Posted by STEVO on Saturday October 12 2013 at 21:42
Sally, not wanting to sound pedantic but the Tories are changing the benefits system so no "family" who receive benefits can "earn" more than the average UK wage which is £26K P.A.

Reply Posted by You said on Saturday October 12 2013 at 15:12
Pass me the remote plz

Reply Posted by Exasperated on Saturday October 12 2013 at 15:28
Why do some people just not get it what is going on even after having it explained so many times

Reply Posted by flapper on Saturday October 12 2013 at 15:40
I reckon folk do get it Exasperated. Some of these posts are on here,because people are exasperated,not knowing what,if anything can be done. If you mean sally, Ithink sshe's airing her views that's all.

Reply Posted by phil on Saturday October 12 2013 at 15:28
@ you said - unemployed moron by any chance?

Reply Posted by x on Saturday October 12 2013 at 15:46
people on benefits are not responsible for the crap minimum wage we recieve sally we are. when are people going to get the message,if this government did away with the welfare system today we as low payed workers would gain nothing,all jobs would eventually become part time to accomodate the people no longer recieving benefits,open your eyes look around you its happening already. how many jobs are there now that are part time or have zero hrs contracts.what do you think the minority who have no intentions of working would do if their benefits were stopped,im sure we can all hazard a guess what do you think would happen to the kids who have only been fetched into this world for the benefits,how much would it cost to have these kids in childrens homes,nobody would be safe to walk the streets ,everything we buy will treble in cost to cover for the massive surge in shop lifting,then what even more of our taxes being used to put them in the hotels we call prisons .i would much rather pay a few pence of my hard earned taxes to benfit claiments than face a world like that.it isn't always the answer to take away from people sometimes it can cause more problems than it solves

Reply Posted by Jesus Christ Marie on Saturday October 12 2013 at 15:49
We are cattle.

Reply Posted by Staff Nurse on Saturday October 12 2013 at 17:44
We had a drug overdose patient (who is well known to us) in the other day. Now according to this woman, she said she overdosed because it was her treat day. In other words she got her dole money.

This is just one of many at BDGH week in week out. If it isn't drugs it's drink. These are some of the same folk who complain about the so called bedroom tax. To hear comments like these after doing 7 12 hour nightshifts makes my blood boil.

I say well done to the goverment!

Reply Posted by patient on Saturday October 12 2013 at 18:06
I can see why you,re angry,but do you really think this woman will work? Who,s going to force her and when they fail,will they let her starve? I'm with you,but can't see it working. I don't have any answers though.

Reply Posted by Exasperated on Saturday October 12 2013 at 18:28
Exactly that stevo and well put

Reply Posted by Sally on Saturday October 12 2013 at 18:35
@ x - I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I never said that people on benefits are responsible for the minimum wage. Personally myself and husband earn well above minimum wage and are financially comfortable.. People on minimum wage are more than likely being topped up with working tax credit. I was just airing my views based on the situations of different families that I know some of which are on benefits and some working. All I was saying basically is that there is something wrong somewhere when some working people are financially worse off than some people claiming benefits, it just doesn't make sense.

Reply Posted by high horse on Sunday October 13 2013 at 12:02
So over 600,000 unemployed EU migrants here now then eh? No mention of that by the ones constantly slating barnsleys unfortunate genuine unemployed. Just to clarify thats 600,000 people moved here from europe claiming benefits roughly 1/4 of total unemplyment figure. Maybe you should direct your vitriol towards them. Just saying like x

Reply Posted by x on Sunday October 13 2013 at 12:21
while people like us are arguing over a few quid the rich fat cats who are taking away some of the little we do have are sat counting their millions and laughing at the lot of us.the next time your in asda debating wether you can afford the branded tin of beans or wether it will have to be smart price ,just remember the ones who have put you in that position are sat looking through brochures ready to book their next holiday to the maldives,or planning where they are going on their luxury yatchs.blame the ones who pay more for a tie than the weekly wage you work your arsses off all week for.im not talking about the ones whov'e worked to get what they've got, im talking about the camerons of this world who wouldn't know a hard days physical graft if it smacked him in the face.i hope one day when he's spouting the words people who work hard sticks in his throat and chokes him.

Reply Posted by anon on Sunday October 13 2013 at 13:18
I'm not being funny or owt. But half of you people don't understand how difficult it is for young people to get jobs, and how hard it is to live on the money they get. It's not just young people on the dole either!!!! Your all so judgemental, our basically saying tha everyone who is on the dole is a drug addict or is an alcoholic. That's completely wrong of you. Lots of people use the money they get to bring up their familys, to look after themselves etc. I suppose everyone is aloud their oppinion but until you have walked in the shoes of a young person don't judge! Over and out.

Reply Posted by Socially distorted on Sunday October 13 2013 at 14:22
I think this is a great idea. I had been on benefits until my youngest started school and while I was at college. Was signing on for around 6months, applied for a lot of jobs with no result. The lady at the job centre found me an unpaid job for experience at a shop doing 37.5 hours a week for free, for 8 weeks. I wasn't paid any extra money...but I felt like I was at least Earning what i was getting! Made me much more confident, was a much better influence on my children and it was something more recent to put on my CV... Would never not work again, who wants to feel useless, I'm happy to pay back I to the system that helped me out..and I for one think a lot of people will be motivated by the sense of purpose and pride that comes from a job well done! Benefits are not a good way to survive, show them the other side! :D

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:00
Up the dole fook work

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:03
Up the dole f**k work dont wont to work i spend my dole money on drink

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:06
Work not for me never never f**k that

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:15
I only work once evey two weeks to sign on

Reply Posted by PoG on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:41
Great stufff bri, and so eloquent too

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:47
Sign on with a pen in our hand and we never work agian

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:48

Reply Posted by blade runner on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:53
have you thought about using the blade.slit yer throat you lazy piece of scum

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:55
Wot with a rubber knife

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 15:58
Up the blades

Reply Posted by PoG on Sunday October 13 2013 at 16:00
As far as wind-up merchants go you"re strictly in the lower leagues bri, a bit like your beloved blades. Ah well as long as it keeps you amused I suppose

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 16:01
Ive done your mam

Reply Posted by PoG on Sunday October 13 2013 at 16:09
I"d be surprised if you could do your own laces

Reply Posted by blade runner on Sunday October 13 2013 at 16:43
Coventry 2-0 shef u,says it all,

Reply Posted by Bianca on Sunday October 13 2013 at 17:34
God this Brian the blade sounds a good catch doesn't he girls? Just imagine what he must look like, I bet he's a right scrawny little git with bad teeth, bad breath, BO, ugly spotty face ant to top it off a **** the size of a maggot. No prospects no friends no family. In fact whats he doing even existing for, no point really.

Reply Posted by brian the blade on Sunday October 13 2013 at 17:40
Im the man all i live for is drink an no work and barnsley is full ov smack rats

Reply Posted by guy on Sunday October 13 2013 at 17:54
illiterate moron

Reply Posted by blade runner on Sunday October 13 2013 at 18:02
@@@@@ brian the blade...I bet you girls are queueing up for him,,++I BET NOT++he smells,got acne..stil wanks in his socks..lives in a bedsit..no mates..sad lonely bellend...

Reply Posted by tara on Sunday October 13 2013 at 18:04
Knobhead, doesn't make sense that. Didn't you go to school love? Aww you poor unfortunate little Sheff scumbag. Bless ya.

Reply Posted by tara on Sunday October 13 2013 at 18:12
Ha Ha Ha you're so funny , can't even spell love . Yeah love I live in Barnsley me n hubby earn £40,000 between us , live in a nice house, nice car all worked and paid for. What have you got to your name, jack shit probably. Live in a scummy flea invested bedsit for doleys do you love? Name W****r springs to mind.

Reply Posted by Tara on Sunday October 13 2013 at 18:19
live and work in Barnsley, love it. Wheres your mother work love, red light district by any chance? Scum like you is bred by scum.

Reply Posted by tara on Sunday October 13 2013 at 18:24
Yeah love work for DWP If you must know. By the way your spelling is shocking. Are all sheff scumbags as thick as you love?

Reply Posted by Tara on Sunday October 13 2013 at 18:34
Aww poor illiterate Bri's gone a bit quiet now, bet he's gone to look up some new words seeing as his vocabulary consists of about 10 words I think he's exhausted it.

Reply Posted by Tara on Sunday October 13 2013 at 19:28
Yeah that's right , off to bed now in fact with a bottle of red n mi sexy hubby, i'll leave you now to your cheap can of beer sat in your shithole of a bedsit. Enjoy your night Bri. Up the Blades LOL

Reply Posted by THETRUTH on Monday October 14 2013 at 09:34
@TARA if what you say is true about working for the DWP then i really hope you get fired from your job. People like you should not be allowed to work if you can sit and type judgemental comments about the unemployed. You may be able to sit in a lovely house with your nice bottle of wine all high and mighty but to be honest i would rather sit in a flea infested bedsit (by the way unemployed people dont live in places like that) and have a good attitude towards people than be a smug stuck up **** like you. hope you get fired. wonder if you dare speak like that to your claimants face to face? what a fool

Reply Posted by DCI on Sunday October 13 2013 at 19:50
You want to watch what you're posting on here mate. We have ways of tracing you.

Reply Posted by Collet on Sunday October 13 2013 at 20:08
Brian the blade should have been silenced some time ago, nothing like a good bit of banter,but there's a thing as going too far,no excuse for blaming your mate.?

Reply Posted by PoG on Sunday October 13 2013 at 20:26
Oh dear little Bri's just cacked his pants

Reply Posted by BLADE RUNNER on Sunday October 13 2013 at 20:28
poor bri,you aint got your mates?to much beer makes your tongue loose,,sad boy...

Reply Posted by Tommo on Sunday October 13 2013 at 20:30
Well I can certainly understand why the tax credits bill accounts for such a large %....good example : self employed person known to us, declares he earns £6,000 a year, actually earns £40,000 got 7 kids plus horses n cars missis doesn't work she gets £16,000 a year in tax credits YES - £16,000 plus nearly £6,000 a year in child benefit so add this to his £40,000, it's a decent sum isn't it!! Maybe these dishonest families should be targeted too, bit if a difference between £16000 tax credits and JSA isn't there????

Reply Posted by sid on Sunday October 13 2013 at 20:41
Is he an MP tommo?

Reply Posted by p on Sunday October 13 2013 at 20:46
Maybe people working with nothing to lose (claimants) could create better service in this country.

Reply Posted by Tommo on Sunday October 13 2013 at 20:52
Sid, you could get him confused with one the lifestyle that they lead! Me and the missis both work full time and they splash more cash than seems possible. Good old tax credits, always good when you can lie and get away with it.......heard he employs someone who is on JSA too so he'll save £ on that un!

Reply Posted by sid on Sunday October 13 2013 at 20:59
That's what I thort Tommo. Shop em. That's if they're not being watched already. You never know.

Reply Posted by Tommo on Monday October 14 2013 at 11:16
Sid, how do I go about it then? Never done it before but feel like I should!

Reply Posted by sid on Monday October 14 2013 at 11:37
Google it I suppose

Reply Posted by Helen on Monday October 14 2013 at 11:40
I know when someone is self employed its slightly different for tax credits in that they work using someones net profit figure not on gross earnings therefore I bet the person you know of maybe has a good accountant who manages to come up with plenty of deductible amounts so that net profit appears smaller than it actually is. The net profit figure provided for tax credit purposes will also be the same figure that is provided to HMRC on the persons tax return form and I suspect that inland revenue do look into cases where fraud is suspected.

Reply Posted by Tara on Monday October 14 2013 at 12:06
@ THETRUTH - My comments were directed to and in response to someone called Briantheblade , most of his comments look like they have since been removed. His comments were totally derogatory and yeah I found myself biting and responding back to him as have a few other people. No I don't actually work for the DWP I just used this in response to one of his comments. Apologies to any offended as I said I just got drawn into the banter.

Reply Posted by THETRUTH on Thursday October 17 2013 at 18:21
apology accepted :)

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Wednesday October 16 2013 at 08:53
@tara - you and your 'hubby' (boak) earn £40,000 between you. Big deal. Nothing to write home about love.