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Town Hall Fountains - A WAB Debate

Tuesday August 27 2013


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THE new water feature at the side of the Town Hall has only been operating for two weeks but it's already been hugely popular. What do you think to it? Do you think it's a welcome addition to the town centre? Is it worth its money? Have your say on our WAB Debate.

Here are a few facts about the fountains...

The water feature is in fact 30 nozzles, placed in three banks of 10, emitting 30 curved jets of water of varying diameter.

They're also programmable, which enables the jets to vary in curvature, known as a 'whip' effect.

The water is housed in a 50,000-litre underground tank and is pumped at 30,000 litres per hour.

The underground control room was built underneath Lancaster Gate using 127 cubic metres of concrete and 11 tonnes of steel reinforcement.

All the water is disinfected and filtered before being recycled.

There are 90, 24-volt RGB LED lights illuminating the water jets as the natural light fades. The pumps and lights are controlled by a programmable interface to vary the colours and the 'whip' effect.

So, what do you think? Have your say below.

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Reply Posted by gaynor on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 13:07
Well id be an hypocrite if i opposed the feature as i plan to take my 6 year old son for a splash around. If its bringing joy to the children of Barnsley then it gets my thumbs up!!

Reply Posted by Gazza on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 13:09
the water feature n gardens YES the nit comb NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Reply Posted by angela on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 13:13
i think it is wonderful. it's great to see the kids having fun instead of mooching about being bored, or on the electronic games all day. bring Barnsley into the 21st century. we need a more modern and cleaner looking town. well done Barnsley council.

Reply Posted by Guesty Mcguest on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 13:15
Looks amazing at the moment but in 2 years when they break Steve will tell us no money to maintain and the area will be a mess like mandela gardens are now.

Reply Posted by tillyanne on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 13:44
money would have been better spent on safer roads or medical services wonder what happens when there is a water shortage ??

Reply Posted by Anon on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 14:08
The water feature is great and I look forward to using it with my kids only thing is there is nowhere for them to get dried or even to change into dry clothes after use as there are signs on the doors for them not to go in the building. They could have thought it through a bit better as I don't want my children walking through town soaked to find somewhere to change.

Reply Posted by Jimbo on Saturday August 31 2013 at 12:58
Are you being serious. Do what everyone else does and carry a change of dry clothes for your little darlings and a towel.

Reply Posted by cup half empty on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 14:09
Well as me and my partner drove through town it was lovely to see the kids having fun!!! But and this is the reality of the situation and the culture we are in the first time anyone (not just a child) slips and hurts themselves on the water(or when it is icy) and they decide to sue the council it will be turned off and roped around sorry to be negative folks but that's what is going to happen.....they did the exact same water feature in Rotherham and a few years later it was turned off and as far as I know it hasn't been on since!!!

Reply Posted by Kelly on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 14:23
It's looks nice at the moment simply because it's brand new. Yes, it looks better than the car park (though do BMBC realise that lack of parking is sending people away from the Town & into Sheffield, Leeds, Wakefield as parking is not a problem there), and I have taken my daughter. But, I have to agree that it hasn't been thought trough long term. Barnsley is the home of Metrodome, why does BMBC insist on increasing the entry price during the holidays ?? Love the new Museum & Discovery Centre though.

Reply Posted by Mark on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 14:27
I'm not sure it was ever intended as a playground for children to frolic in. Surely the water feature was to add elegance and grace to enhance the appearance of one of our most prestigious buildings, the town hall. If Barnsley area parents want their children to enjoy splashing about in water, I would suggest that they visit one of the council provided leisure pools in the area.

Only in a town like Barnsley could parents and children believe that this is a council playground.

Reply Posted by Jimbo on Saturday August 31 2013 at 13:02
Get a life, have you been to Sheffield or even Blackpool lately. Their water features are all used by children. I think it is great.

Reply Posted by lyndon on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 14:56
what a total misery guts, i take it you don't have kids

Reply Posted by Mike Newton on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 16:11
I think its ridiculous that the council should approve such an expenditure on what is at the best a "Folly", when talking of making staff redundant.

Reply Posted by GRIM on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 16:27
Mike, you've obviously not read any of the articles about the museum or the town hall garden properly.
its funded. European Regional Development Fund. They fund projects like this all over Europe and those projects are there to attract vistors to towns and to help the economy.
And so far it is working. Every day the garden has been full of peopl eating out, lounging in the sun and children playing.
The museum has had over 30k vistors in two months - many of these has come from out of town, and in some cases from overseas.
Believe what you want. See what you want to see, but fact is, it is working.

Reply Posted by GRIM on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 16:31
and on the parking. The town hall carpark was hardly ever used. And when it was it was often staff in the town hall.
There is a massive car park on County Way, and also ones at Gateway Plaza and Graham's Orchard - all within a couple of minutes walk.
The choice of shops in other places send people away, but all small towns have this problems. Big companies dont have the incentive to move into towns like ours, so funding has to be put into projects like this to attract tourists and also into promoting small independent businesses that will offer a different retail experience.

Reply Posted by Avie on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 17:04
Been there today with my grandson Billy aged 9, not planned, just a thought that came to me as we were in town. It was brilliant, and I will be back again for sure, with the other grandkids.

Reply Posted by Steve on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 17:27
I think the council needs to explain what it's intended use was and I doubt very much it was intended as a playground! Whilst I have no objection to the kids enjoying themselves without proper changing facilities and supervision over time I fear this area will become and health and safety hazard and an haven for paedophiles.

Reply Posted by Diane on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 17:37
i took my grandson on Saturday to see the fountains, because he asked to go see them, he splashed about and had a thoroughly great half hour and they look great and add to the attraction of the town hall

Reply Posted by GRIM on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 17:51
Explain what it is? Are you serious? Town Hall Gardens and Fountain. Its self explanatory dont you think. Maybe you want someone to say it wasnt intended as a playground so that you'd be right and they'd be wrong and then you can complain some more.

Not that poeple rarely read the explanations in regards to what things are and where funding has come from, but its in here.
www.wearebarnsley.com/news/article/2674/town-hall-gardens-a-wab-guide

Reply Posted by Janet on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 18:06
After going past on the bus one day it brought a smile to my face to see the children enjoying themselves,dont be killjoys let the kids enjoy themselves.

Reply Posted by Lindsay on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 20:19
I think it looks great... Everyone that I have spoken with have said how good it is & looks. I can't believe how miserable some people can be in here! I'm betting that they've never even been and taken a look! #TeamGrim

Reply Posted by Fred on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 21:54
It's great, all the screaming unwashed kids keep the smack rats and alci's away !!!

Reply Posted by Granville on Tuesday August 27 2013 at 22:04
Wonderful let the people of Barnsley celebrate a community space, Well done Barnsley

Reply Posted by Patricia on Wednesday August 28 2013 at 07:20
It looks ok , for now, till they can't maintain it but would be a nicer place if that disgusting object of rusty rubbish weren't stuck there. the thing is they took car parking space and a lot of money that could have improved roads and services(which now are being with drawn),

Reply Posted by becks on Wednesday August 28 2013 at 09:44
Some people r never happy! Always find a fault or become mystic meg telling us whats going to happen in the future...stop living life with ur glass half empty for gods sake! Selfish to say its pointless when all the kids are loving it! How many more car parks do u want! Rant over!

Reply Posted by Jimbo on Saturday August 31 2013 at 13:04
Well sasid Becks

Reply Posted by Stevo on Wednesday August 28 2013 at 15:33
The fountains look good.

The plants look terrible! How about a nit more colour rather than the "grasses" they have planted?

Reply Posted by GRIM on Wednesday August 28 2013 at 19:20
Have you seen the facebook comments about the fountains? People are saying it was wrong to have the fountains there because it might attract paedophiles because the children were in just their pants or shorts?! Seriously, how moronic can people be?
Does that mean we should shut down the metrodome or not take our kids to the seaside to sunbath? Sweet baby jesus!
Surely paedophiles are attracted to children regardless of their choice of clothes?

Why not just accept, the money spent, which wasn't council tax and was in fact European Regional Development Fund monday, was money well spent.
Children enjoying themselves and creating happy memories is priceless.

Reply Posted by lyndon on Wednesday August 28 2013 at 20:53
well said grim, and yes the worlds gone mad

Reply Posted by jamie on Thursday August 29 2013 at 19:42
it makes barnsley look good

Reply Posted by FMB on Thursday August 29 2013 at 21:21
That's Barnsley for you can't find a parking space let alone a free one, but hey ho lets build a fountain for kids to play in in the day and drunken thugs to mess about in at night!!!!!

Reply Posted by Cassie on Friday August 30 2013 at 09:12
The fountains are switched of night the water is cleaned everyday and recycled into the tanks below so not a lot of waste. If you let your kids get wet without taking a towel or change of clothes er sorry but that's not the councils fault.
Car Parks lets see Sackville St 2 4 hour car parks. Gateway Plaza cheapest all day parking in town NCP car park back of Peel Parade Grahams Orchard a small car park on St Marys Gate on street car parking just about everywhere Court House and County Way Pitt Street and Mark Street the Alhambra the car parks near Morrison's of which there are several that are hardly used Morrison's itself you can use for 2 hours same with the Lidol car park and then there are the 2 private ones near the Alhambra and the Shakespeare and to cap it all most of them are free on Saturdays I don't think we do too badly for a town our size really do we.

Reply Posted by Me... on Saturday August 31 2013 at 14:27
My kids asked to go while in town today, we popped up on r way home. They loved in & brought a smile to several peoples faces. I do think it would be nicer in a park its a bit odd being in the middle of town but its much nicer than a car park of which town has plenty!!

Reply Posted by Kerry on Monday September 2 2013 at 21:54
It was planned to be played in! Smile plz miserable ppl

Reply Posted by angela on Monday September 2 2013 at 22:10
been with grandkids they loved took change of clothes and small towel whats the problem .
been to museum twice with them and they want to go again cafe is ok also.

Reply Posted by kaydie on Monday September 2 2013 at 22:29
There just a waste of our money, the money needed to be spent else where like on maintaining roads, helping people find jobs ect what's the fountains do for anyone? Nothing there a total waste who ever decided to build them needs a reality check that the water fountains wont fix Barnsley!

Reply Posted by Kaydie SPG on Monday September 23 2013 at 16:42
English classes for adults too, so they can get these jobs they find?

Reply Posted by Astounded on Tuesday September 3 2013 at 11:12
I give in with you moaning lot. Just a few weeks ago it was "Is there anything free or cheap for the kids to do"?. You get and then whinge again. What do you people want the next bit is in capital because it doesn't sink in any other way. THIS PROJECT WAS FUNDED WHOLLY BY A LOTTERY MONEY GRANT. THE COUNCIL COULDN'T SPEND IT ON ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT WASN'T THEIR MONEY. Rant over.

Reply Posted by lepont on Thursday September 5 2013 at 09:31
anon - I know this may be thinking be forward thinking, but if your precious ones don't want to walk through the town wet, you could pop a couple of towels in your bag and even a change of clothes. I would hate them to get a 'chill'

Reply Posted by sculpture climbing frame fountain play area look with your eyes on Monday September 23 2013 at 16:44
Can people stop ending with "rant over"