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Crowded Primary School Issue Could See Five More Being Built

Friday July 12 2013

Cllr Tim Cheetham Cllr Tim Cheetham

FIVE new schools will have to be built in Barnsley over the next five years if the council is to tackle a shortage of primary pupil places.

Cllr Tim Cheetham warned a shortage of primary school places in the borough is 'not a temporary problem'.

Council figures show a shortage of about 88 reception class places in 2015, and in 2016 a shortage of 84.

"If a school has a spare classroom and can take one extra class, instead of taking 30 pupils it would take 60 in two classes," said Cllr Cheetham. 

He is worried there is a danger of stripping schools of their libraries and IT suites to accommodate extra pupils.

"Looking at the forecasts we have made it's a permanent problem - and the town centre is where the real pressure is coming up.

"We have the capacity in secondary schools to cope but at primary level we have an issue."

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Reply Posted by guesty mcguest on Friday July 12 2013 at 15:51
well done a bit of joined up thinking there, realising that more houses means a need for more services and schools course everyone else round here did that as soon as the plans were published

Reply Posted by Brian on Friday July 12 2013 at 18:44
Nothing to do with immigrants children taking up all the places then is it?

Reply Posted by Don McCarron on Sunday July 14 2013 at 17:33
Vote UKIP.

Reply Posted by Don McCarron on Sunday July 14 2013 at 17:41
You need to get your facts right Craig. The birth rate of the indigenous population is actually falling. You can deny it all you like but everything we've worked and paid to build down the decades, housing, the NHS, law enforcement, employment, education, is being completely overrun. Anyone still considering voting Labour needs their head examining.

Reply Posted by David on Sunday July 14 2013 at 17:45
Never mind 2015, it's needed now!! When you live 80 yards away from a school but have to travel 3 miles to another one as school is full, something isn't right

Reply Posted by craig on Sunday July 14 2013 at 17:45
No it's not - I work in in schools and classes are getting bigger. No they aren't immigrant either. Birth rates fell in the 90's school places were slashed and schools closed- my school merged that's why we have a shortage of places now. Not figures but facts

Reply Posted by Don McCarron on Sunday July 14 2013 at 18:23
Craig. We know rates were down in the 90s, with that, and the fact that classes are getting bigger, you're only proving my point. A quarter of babies born in the UK are children of immigrants. Fact. Housing, the NHS, education and almost every other public service are creaking at the seams. It's a time-bomb. And don't try to take the high ground by telling me you work in schools. Education is so riddled with Common Purpose agenda that that has to be considered a handicap.

Reply Posted by King Fred on Sunday July 14 2013 at 18:45
Don you are wasting your breath, half the idiots on here don't believe that the four million or so immigrants we have HAD to let into our country over the last few years have made any impact on our country.

They are indeed IDIOTS!

Reply Posted by worried on Sunday July 14 2013 at 18:40
so whats the alternative to labour then Don cos if we stay with this government we will all be homeless and starving or being used as slaves for the rich

Reply Posted by King Fred on Sunday July 14 2013 at 22:49
They all p*ss in the same pot!
The only party that would seriously sort immigration out is the British National Party and they will definitely be getting my vote next time.

Reply Posted by Don McCarron on Sunday July 14 2013 at 18:46
The only thing that's important at the moment is to get out of the EU. The next election is the only chance we'll get. Labour want to sell us to Marxist totalitarianism lock, stock and barrel. So do the Cons and Lib Dems. Don't be fooled by Cameron's promise. He promised a referendum before the last election and immediately went back on it. After the next election, if we remain in the EU, we're lost. We MUST give UKIP as much sway as we can, that's the only chance we have.

Reply Posted by King Fred on Sunday July 14 2013 at 22:55
We have no chance we are doomed whoever gets in.
BNP for me, sick of Europe and the immigrants that have been let in to rape our country

Reply Posted by craig on Sunday July 14 2013 at 19:05
There's a copy of of Barnsley's immigration on birth rates and immigration. Shows Barnsley has the highest birth rate in Yorkshire amongst British born parents and lowest immigration. Barnsley councils own report - Don! Biggest problem is this country is sn ageing population - hence pressure being placed on services such as the nhs . 70% of welfare budget is spent on the elderly - immigrants less than 6%. Ukip are feeding on people's ignorance - their other policies are atrocious. Getting out of the eu will leave us stranded .

Reply Posted by King Fred on Sunday July 14 2013 at 22:56
still too many immigrants in Barnsley Craig regardless of what the stats tell us.

Reply Posted by Don McCarron on Monday July 15 2013 at 10:23
"Barnsley Council's own report"? Are you kidding? I'd rather trust our dog to get me the real figures. And please don't try to tell me about UKIP. I've heard the Europhile propaganda many times before and it won't wash. UKIP are our only chance of escaping the corrupt, undemocratic Marxist superstate. Getting out of the EU will open up the world to us and we'll still do just as much business with Europe. You're either ill informed or you have a personal agenda.

Reply Posted by King Fred on Monday July 15 2013 at 13:39
Get out of Europe? - NO
Wrestle our powers back from Europe - YES

sTOP the massive influx of immigrants - YES

The majority of the UK trade is done with the EU so going it alone would not bode well for our country.

Reply Posted by Craig on Monday July 15 2013 at 19:44
No agenda just not brainwashed .Some of the comments on here reminds me of 1930's Europe and people's attitude torwards the jews.Right wing politics certainly worked . Have a read and not just dismiss it.

Reply Posted by King Fred on Tuesday July 16 2013 at 15:13
So Craig tells us he works in schools, nice work if you can get it I say, why not resign your post and see just how hard it is to get a job in our town, a town where employers actively discriminate against local people by setting Eastern Europeans on.

The difference between us and Nazi Germany is the Germans actively deported people (To Poland funnily enough) gassed them and turned them into ashes.

Our country and the Labour party in particular and unscrupulous employers actively encouraged immigration to our country to take "advantage" of the Eastern Europeans who wanted to work, ya know the same Eastern Europeans that were queuing for bread not so long ago.
Lowering wages and living standards for the people that were born in this country.

After all we declared war on Germany after she invaded Polands border, we now find ourselves being invaded by a third generation of Poles that our forefathers died and fought to protect.
Slightly quixotic don't you think?

As you work in schools i'm figuring you don't teach history, look it up sometime you may be surprised.

Reply Posted by pedobear on Tuesday July 16 2013 at 18:06
the pedo's of barnsley love your proposed idea :-)

Reply Posted by Craig on Tuesday July 16 2013 at 23:39
Nice work if you can get it? Nice work if you get your head down and work hard for it. I spent four years working hard and have taught for 20 odd years in primary schools very often with immigrant children. my experience is that they are hard working kids and families who try and integrate themselves. As for the germany quote -It's similar in terms of attitude - times of difficulty we look for someone to blame . Immigrants are easy targets - go to most countries in the world and it won't take you long to find a Brit working there. Spain 6 million unemployed - go to any holiday resorts and find a Brit working cheaply in a bar. Is the answer to move everybody back to the country where they belong. When jobs were scarce in the 80's thousands of Brits went abroad to find work - auf wiedersehn pet was a prime example.

Reply Posted by Stevo on Wednesday July 17 2013 at 19:29
I agree with King Fred.

As for blaming the immigrants, yes I like to whinge about them, it isn't really there fault tho is it?

20 odd years ago they were eating cabbage soup and queuing for bread, a lot of people seem to forget that fact.

As king Fred rightly says the problems lie with the employers and agencies that actively DISCRIMINATE against our OWN jobseeking people by solely setting eastern Europeans on.

As I have mentioned on numerous occasions Symphony at Grimethorpe has 92% Eastern European workers at its factory, how the hell can this be good for the local people who so desperately want a job?

The majority of immigrant workers do not and will not integrate into society all they are interested in is earning money and sending it back home to heir families.

Reply Posted by John on Thursday July 18 2013 at 22:20
Wow! How a report on school places can stir up so many other issues and become a political campaign is beyond me. Speaking as someone who works in education our role is to provide the best possible education for all children within Barnsley. A cheaper option would be to look at the areas where demand is greatest and invest in redeveloping and extending those schools rather than building new schools. Educating all ages is key to the future of Barnsley and everyone must surely acknowledge that if the area is to be successful we must embrace the skills and talents of everyone. Too many people feel they are owed a living and fail to realise their future is in their own hands. Those who work hard and take responsability for their own future will do well - that is what people must realise and education must provide. Surely one community working together will benefit all?

Reply Posted by Charles Hemingway on Thursday July 18 2013 at 22:37
My three children went to Doncaster road school in the 1970s we had to fight to keep it open then, but since then slazengers closed and lots of houses were built downings closed and now it's a huge estate the three pubs that went are now flats and most kids living in this area are foreign also the bus depot is now all houses but no new schools have been built to accommodate them

Reply Posted by ET on Friday July 19 2013 at 06:50
So why were so many schools in this area shut down and demolished and merged into other schools, was it because there were less places needed, They do need some "Rocket Science" injecting into Councils philosophy!!