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Community College Changes Its Status

Wednesday May 15 2013

Horizon gets status change Horizon gets status change

HORIZON Community College is to change its legal status from community school to a voluntary controlled school.

Cabinet members at Barnsley Council have approved a proposal from the school’s governing body which carried out statutory consultation between February and April.

Specialising in performing arts, sport and community enterprise, Horizon Community College at Dodworth Road was established to replace the former Holgate and Kingstone schools.

Following the change in legal status to voluntary controlled, Horizon will potentially benefit from investments owned by the foundation, which is now known as the Horizon Archbishop Holgate Foundation.

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Reply Posted by bubbly on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 16:07
So does this mean we have to folk out more money for a uniform

Reply Posted by Carla Brammer on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 16:18
If they think we are spending anymore money on uniforms then they are sadly mistaken!!!!!! Paid a small fortune this year!!!!

Reply Posted by kath coulbeck on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 16:29
not buying more uniform just for one year the can go do one

Reply Posted by nicky simms on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 16:34
They can kiss my butt new uniform more expense pffft.......

Reply Posted by Danny on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 16:40
Where in the article does it state ANYTHING about uniforms?

Reply Posted by Jan on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 16:50
Can someone kindly explain, in Barnsley Language, what this means and what or how will it effect students, and what the 'real' reason behind this is?

I don't currently have children who attend Horizon but was in the midst of talking with my child about changing to Horizon as she is not happy at the school she currently attends.

Reply Posted by anon on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 18:24
there going to have to change the blazers as it has ' horizon community college' on! wasting unecessary money yet again. If you ask Horizon voluntary controlled sounds ridiulous i though community college was stupid as its not even a college but voluntary controlled sounds even worse! its the worst school ever the teachers need to get there priorites right! its the most pathetic excuse of a school and if i knew it was going to be like it is then i wouldnt have chose to come here seriously they only care about uniform and what you look like! dont give two flying f*cks about your learning and i know this is nothing to do with changing the name but theyd rather someone you miss out on a full days of learning because you have the wrong trousers on or apparently inapropriate shoes on, and the call black pumps inapropriate and say that it affect the apperance of the school! so theyd rather you dont do lessons for a day because you have inapropriate uniform on than just let you in lessons i mean come on ruin the apperance of the school but its alright for teacher to come in what ever they like my head of years skirt gets shorter every f*cking day! and they moan at us. they try to make the school look good when visitors come in just so they get a good report well if one of vistors comes and talks to me ill tell them what its really like and also 'theres no bullying' what a pack of lies! horizons pathetic and the sooner everyone who thinks its amazing realise that the better! anyway i think changing the name is a waste of money as all the blazers are going to have to be changed! why dont they spend there money on something right maybe something to help us with our learning but no like i said only care about what we ******* look like! 99.5% of teachers up there are nothing but d*ckheads who need to get their prorites straight!!!!!! rant over

Reply Posted by John on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 18:44
anon - maybe if you listened more, valued your education and began to take responsibility for your own future by showing a more positive attitude towards your learning you might be able to put across an opinion without swearing and with the correct spellings, grammar and punctuation! Teachers can't teach those who don't want to learn and think the world owes them a living!

Reply Posted by ALD on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 18:49
To Anon,
You're in control of your own learning. If you don't want to miss a full days (free and full) education then follow the clear rules and wear the right uniform. Quite simple really. Once all pupils respect and accept the rules then more of teachers' time and focus will be available for teaching really quality lessons. You can be pretty certain that anyone who has bought Horizon Community College uniforms will be allowed to continue to wear them.
To Jan,
I believe that the difference between a community school and a voluntary controlled school is how the school is funded. I think (hope someone will correct me if I am wrong) a community school is funded by (and the teachers employed by)the local authority. A voluntary controlled school is similar, but also has an affiliation with an outside organisation, in many cases a church, and can therefore benefit from financial and other investments outside of the local authority.
In my opinion the more money a school can get its hands on the better for the kids attending, as essentially its all about providing pupils with the very best education possible and everything costs money.

Reply Posted by Fred on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 20:57
What chance have kids got with uneducated buffoons for parents. Only interested in saving a few quid in uniforms, no interest in their kids education..... Says it all really !

Reply Posted by Anon on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 21:18
Dear Anon (pupil) as a parent I couldn't agree more. The other Anon - Children are not in control of their learning, teachers are late for lessons because of the distance they have to walk from classroom to classroom. The teachers are taking 25 mins to settle a class, not good when the lesson only lasts an hour. Too many teachers on sick leave due to stress. Too many supply teachers. The bullying that goes on in that school is atrocious, nothing's done about, and the head of year disputes this, not much hope really, and whatever Nick Bowen does is beyond me, you can never get to speak to him. This is why my child has left to go to another school.

Reply Posted by yawn on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 22:00
bullying goes off in ALL schools, and has for years, I left school 17 years ago and had detention for not wearing my tie correctly, had earrings took off me cos there was only 1 pair of studs allowed and was also warned about inappropriate footwear! All in all the change sounds like it is for the better, if this means new uniform then I am sure you wont be railroaded into buying the new stuff immediately as this wouldn't be viable for a high percentage of families.

The reason bullying goes off is usually to prove status or because the bullies are so negative on themselves they choose to pick on someone to make their own egos bigger! yet you hear parents showing negative attitudes which the kids pick up on, as I said before, bullying goes on in ALL schools and often outside of school too. If these are the issues on kids not getting a better education the only way you can prevent it is by you home schooling your child and wrapping them in cotton wool. :)

Reply Posted by yorkshirepud on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 22:29
Weren't the pupils all issued with a FREE blazer last year when the school opened? So it's not like you have forked out for one only to get one years use out of it is it.

Reply Posted by Anon on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 22:35
To all. And Fred. The point you make re spelling and grammar proves the kids point. He / she obviously wants to learn but the standard of teaching let's them down and hence the pupils suffer. We know. Disruption in many classes, poor teacher control, teachers late to start classes, time spent by on calling pupils etc etc etc. I agree with anon what does nick bowen do. Does the reality of what goes on filter up to him or is he that far removed by the time he hears of issues, if he cares, has it been diluted? Bullying is rife and takes forever to deal with, partly because year heads are blinkered. The pupil is correct, if you hit someone you get a warning. But if something is amiss with your uniform you are sent home or put in detention.... This school is failing kids all round and that's why my child is moving, like many others that have gone and are in the process of leaving. I think many more will look at this option too. The worst thing was the school never spoke to us to ask why we were wanting to move schools.

Reply Posted by beth on Thursday May 16 2013 at 09:28
My sister goes to this stupid school half of thw kingstone teachers have left i dont think holgates name should be put in the name of the school if kingstones isnt thats why it was called horizen to be homest they should have left kingstone standing because it was a way better school.

Reply Posted by Tony on Thursday May 16 2013 at 16:10
Look at the results around Barnsley, a name change is hardly a priority.

Reply Posted by Beth on Thursday May 16 2013 at 16:17
Horizon has 101 issues that need addressing, a name change is the least of their worries.

Reply Posted by anon on Saturday May 18 2013 at 14:43
john- i missed a few letters out of a few words but if i did it because i cant spell (which i can) then its obviously the schools fault that they havent taught me correct grammar and anon that agreed with me i agree what you said too, its alright for teachers to be late to lessons which they are my drama teacher its always around 10-15 minutes late but we get a mouth full if were even 2 minutes late

Reply Posted by Lucy on Sunday May 19 2013 at 16:11
it will not affect uniform. as a pupil in horizon we were told it wouldn't affect any pupils or uniform. you should have had a letter home in January which was given to your child that says this. please don't jump to conclusions!

Reply Posted by Paul hibberd on Sunday May 19 2013 at 16:14
The school can get ready tomorrow my son had his school shoes stollen in school and the day after spent all day learning nothing in a class room on his own even being escorted to dinner because his uniform wasnt up to scratch . Couldnt phone his parents or even the police . Just decided to keep him thier all day doing nothing i cant wait to see what they have to say !! ( you cant learn kid your footware is the wrong colour ) lol is a joke in this day and age

Reply Posted by Jimmy on Sunday May 19 2013 at 16:28
Yet another nail in the coffin of state education. Taking the school (it seems like school is a dirty word these days) further away from local authority control is a backwards step. If schools remain in local authority control there is a measure of accountability for a start. Pupils should follow the same curriculum accross the borough and country. With further creeping privatisation teachers will be on different pay grades and will change from school to school to follow the most attractive pay and conditions. This is exactly what happened in the rail industry and the many privatised utilities to the detriment of service quality. This is bound to have an effect on stability and standard of education. Eventually the headmaster will be so removed from actual education he or she will be no different to a CEO in business, simply overseeing balance sheets instead of being at the core of education. The school will be nothing but a cash cow for any investors and pupils will be seen as commodities. If investors are not forthcoming I can see the school selling off assets like playing fields or letting God knows how many junk food companies sell their wares on the premises. The episode of the Simpsons where a toy company buys Springfield Elementary for market research purposes is coming true right here in the town and it's all being rubber stamped by a so-called Labour council.

Reply Posted by Amazed on Sunday May 19 2013 at 16:41
I agree with all the above comments, in a way, as the spelling, grammar and punctuation used, along with the 'abuse first, think never' attitude, are a clear reflection of education levels in the Barnsley area; which are very clearly below any acceptable standard, and seem to be getting worse by the year. We can't blame the school though, this all starts at government level, with a government that dismissed education as an important part of modern life many years ago. The results of that are now becoming increasingly apparent.

Reply Posted by Jimmy on Sunday May 19 2013 at 17:17
When I was at school there was no internet and certainly no spell checker. We had to learn punctuation and grammar the correct way and apply it in everything. These days a pupil can write a load of scribble in an English essay as long as "the meaning" comes accross. Similarly in a maths test the spelling can be atrocious but as long as the maths part is correct and ticks the boxes for Ofsted then everything is alright. This sloppy approach is not the fault of the teachers, it's all down to the curriculum standards and targets which will only increase with Horizon School going in this direction. I wouldn't last two minutes as a teacher. In my opinion all errors should be picked up and corrected, not just the ones that are convenient to an inspector's below-par assessment criteria. To anon (pupil). I applaud your position of having an opinion and feeling the need to express yourself on this site. For me your persuasiveness was diluted due to your bad spelling and grammar and your use of profanities to get your point accross. Once you leave school, a prospective employer or college (a real one, not the fancy title Horizon gives itself) will not even entertain the notion of taking you on if you articulate yourself in this way regardless of how valid your arguments are. Perhaps you could approach a sympathetic teacher and ask how to reword your case. I believe that it will be a very useful exercise and show that it is possible to learn even in somewhere as terrible as Horizon.

Reply Posted by tee on Wednesday May 22 2013 at 08:49
unbelievable the amount of people with a connection to horizon actually pulling the place down, even if the uniform does change no doubt u will all get FREE blazers again and maybe if more parents send there kids in the correct uniform in the first place they wouldn't be internally excluded from mainstream for the day. Mr Bowen is the principle of horizon and not the head of schools, each school has its own head of school and its own head of year so if u want to speak to someone about your child u contact them. not rocket science.. the behaviour the lack or respect and rudeness is not down to the teachers/staff it is down to the parents look closer to home for that....amazing a few years ago it was the fault of the child for not being willing to learn this day and age its the fault of the teaching staff maybe your trying to point the finger in the wrong direction. to anon(the pupil) i bet your an angel at school and never do anything wrong haha with that sort of language coming out of your mouth and only being in the year you referred to that to me is lacking respect, the disruptive one in the class that stops the teaching staff teach the rest of the pupils who are willing to learn because of one or two pupils to want to play the goat!!!!!! funny how the headline has nothing to do with the comments i thought the issue was the school status and name change???

Reply Posted by ems on Wednesday May 22 2013 at 10:10
@Jimmy.... you talk about when u were at school, same hear no internet etc.
I know this is not even about school but I was amazed when I took my son to nursery (hes just gone 2) they use an Ipad!!!!! am I just old and past it or is this the norm now lol