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Bedroom Tax Petition Gets Backing

Monday April 29 2013


Town Hall Town Hall


BARNSLEY Trades Council is throwing its weight behind a campaign against the so-called bedroom tax.

It's concerned there will be a knock-on effect on the local economy and a subsequent loss of jobs.

Thousands of people have been left in fear they will be unable to pay rent or afford basic food supplies after the government reduced housing benefit for those who have a spare bedroom.

Dave Gibson, senior vice chairman, said it would lead to more people being pushed into poverty.

He added: "Barnsley Trades Council is committed to campaigning against all the Tory attacks in benefits.

"That is why we have set up a benefit justice sub-committee. We fully support the anti-bedroom tax stance and are confident the government can be defeated if we mobilise strongly enough."

A petition signed by more than 1,000 people was handed to the council on Thursday.

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Reply Posted by lilly on Monday April 29 2013 at 14:28
i am struggling to understand why folk seem to think that renting private is the answer to this problem. due to personal circumstances i had to rent privately for a while the weekly rent on this house was £75.00 per week and due to illness was'nt working at the time so got my rent paid,i then moved into a council property rent £54.00 per week it was actually costing £21.00 per week more for me to be in private rented accomodation,surely if everyone moved into private rents who are struggling to find council properties its actually going to cost more

Reply Posted by Rainman on Monday April 29 2013 at 14:59
Also by putting council house rents up by about 25% over the last 3 years will have an adverse effect on peoples incomes, whether on benefits or not.

Reply Posted by Fred not Fred on Monday April 29 2013 at 20:04
And so they should do
Council rents need to be brought in line with the private rental sector
3 bed house £150 a week
2 bed house £125 a week
1 bed house/flat £100 a week

Fred

Reply Posted by lizzie on Monday April 29 2013 at 16:00
Lilly yes that's the ridiculous thing. The bedroom tax only applies to social housing so if tenants can't afford to live in their LA property due to the bedroom tax, they will probably move to private rented accommodation which will ultimately cost the tax payer more. A ridiculous system.

Reply Posted by Brian on Monday April 29 2013 at 16:14
There is no such thing as a bedroom tax.
The arrangements made by the government are wholly fair, although they perhaps do not go far enough. Why should I and others subsidise your housing costs?

Reply Posted by Andy on Thursday May 2 2013 at 08:58
A huge amount of the people you think you are subsidising are disabled. With the governments strict rules introduced last year (which even made severly disabled people worse off) you can be assured all the people deemed fit for work are back out looking for work. However there are many like myself who have been told they are not capable of working, who struggle to put food on the table and heat our hoses at the same time. And because of the bedroom tax we are at least £68 a month worse off. We can't pay in blood!

Reply Posted by Fran on Monday April 29 2013 at 16:18
A better question is why do we subsidise tax cuts for millionaires while those at the bottom are pushed further into poverty? Some have to choose between food & rent

Reply Posted by King Fred on Monday April 29 2013 at 19:29
The dirty scrubbers who were stood at the "say no to bedroom tax" table in town today aren't having to choose between food and rent. Two of them were tucking in to a large portion of fish, chips and mushy peas!

I wish I could have the luxury of fish & chips.

Reply Posted by Fred not Fred on Monday April 29 2013 at 19:56
Brother Fred, we both know you can afford Fish and Chips 3 times a day, can you send me a few quid?
This darned bedroom tax will be the ruin of me!

Reply Posted by Brian on Monday April 29 2013 at 16:25
Fran, Can you please tell me who is subsidising tax cuts for millionaires?

Reply Posted by lilly on Monday April 29 2013 at 16:48
because nobody knows whats round the corner brian i never thought i would be in a position to need help,unfortunately i did,luckily im back on my feet and extremely gratefull for the help i recieved,and now its my turn to help people who have found themselves in the same position i did.too many people who are in employment are complaicent and seem to think it wont happen to them

Reply Posted by les on Monday April 29 2013 at 23:04
King fred i read your comments every week and i have come to the conclusion that you have a brain the size of a pea abd there is no logic to the diorhea that emits from your coversatios if thats what you call them ....you are just a sad boring old fart that clings to anything your abusive mouth can come out with......and you have no sound comment or anything nice to say about anyone or anything...give it rest and go on holiday

Reply Posted by sally millard on Tuesday April 30 2013 at 08:12
LIZZIE do your reasearch you idiot this is not just for social tenants private renters have always paid it since it was introduced by LABOUR many years ago but private renters were not so dumb and petty to be calling it bedroom tax, it is the amount of housing benefit allocated to people based on the size of the property, however if you were living in a 3 bedroom but only needed 2 bedroom then you only got the housing benefit allowance for 2 bed this has not changed but the government have now extended it to bring council tenants in line with private renters also bringing the rents up higher as well.. the media are calling it bedroom tax to discredit cameron and all the uneducated people nationwide believe this... council tenants on housing benefit always received it in full so stop bloody moaning be grateful you got away with and had an easy life for the last few years you ask any private renter if they have had to pay extra out of their benefit for extra rooms not required and you will get the facts... i can only imagine the majority of you whinging probally all sit at home watching jeremy kyle... spend a little time and google it and get your dumb selves educated dumb arses that you are

Reply Posted by les on Tuesday April 30 2013 at 08:53
I would like to add a point to sallys....
Before the 2nd world war a 2 bedroom terrace house would occupy up to 10 people from 3 different familys. that leaves a point to think.....do we want to go backwards...and does the queen have to pay in her many roomed council house

Reply Posted by sally millard on Tuesday April 30 2013 at 13:05
I am sure we dont want to go backwards les i am all for people having a good life and enjoying it but in order to move forward this government has to end something for nothing culture or the pots going to run dry.. so sadly (and i am a council tenant) its decided to that cutbacks for social tenants housing allowance has to be now be brought in line with private rents and to be fair if you were a private renter surely you should be the ones to be hacked off cos you are not receiving the same amount of housing benefit as council tenants.. the queen wouldnt have to pay itcos she is not claiming housing benefit remember if ypou work and dont claim a penny it doesnt affect you

Reply Posted by lilly on Tuesday April 30 2013 at 15:51
as i stated earlier sally it actually costs the council more for people in private rents,people who move into private rented property know before they take it how much the council is prepared to pay,so if they choose to rent a house with more bedrooms than they need they know they will have to find the extra rent,the people in social housing wer'nt given that choice and are now caught in a no win situationas there just isnt enough houses to be able to move everyone who is being classed as under occupied into smaller houses.and can i just add that being one of the people this affected,and moved from a 2 bed to a 1 bed i am all for people in under occupied houses being moved to smaller homes but i think it should have been done over time as houses became available and not charged for something that is not within their power to rectify in the short term.

Reply Posted by gilly on Thursday May 2 2013 at 08:51
not enuff social housing.... well y is it that all these NON ENGLISH!!! fowk can be moved in left right & center with half furnished houses b4 putting BRITISH yes BRITISH!! PEOPLE first?? its coz this contreys going down the pan makes my piss boil this contrey....

Reply Posted by sarah pointon on Tuesday April 30 2013 at 22:26
i was given a 3 bed house despite applxing for a 2 bed. Whos fauit is it that im underoccupying

Reply Posted by Shaun stott on Tuesday April 30 2013 at 23:13
Sally, I live in a 2 bedroom disabled bungerlow . I am in a wheelchair and although I have worked for a good few years I cannot anymore. I now have to pay the bedroom tax for my spare room even though I need a carer 2 or three times a nite. I have applied for a 1bed adapted flat but suprise suprise no properties . Please advise me wat to do ?? Go private? Yeah right again no adapted flats. I know go into a home that costs hundreds a week.please don't tar everyone with the same brush.

Reply Posted by Barnsley Local on Thursday May 2 2013 at 08:51
I have been fortunate to be working all my life and have never claimed a single benefit or stayed in social house. I agree that genuine cases whereby people with ill health and who cannot work should get support. What I don't agree with is cases whereby 1 person living in a two bed house or 2 people living in a 3 bed house taking up bigger homes that are needed by bigger families on the housing waiting list. When you get old, you move and downsize, why can't that be the same for social housing tenants whereby there children have moved out. Social housing is meant to be a fair system, at present it isn't for that reason. The whole scheme isn't designed to make people poor, go without food and clothes etc, it's to make people think twice about whether they need to live where they are or whether they should downsize. Unfortunately though, there are a lot of non-genuine people claiming benefits that really should get a job but who have never worked a day in their lives. It's also unfortunate that this make genuine benefit claimers look bad.

Reply Posted by bex on Thursday May 2 2013 at 08:58
Well said gilly!!!

Reply Posted by BARNSLEY LASS on Monday June 17 2013 at 02:30
THIS COUNCIL TAX STINKS.I HAVE A SPARE BEDROOM BUT I NEED IT.I HAVE RHUMATOID OSTEOATHERITUS OF THE KNEES AND IM TOO YOUNG TO HAVE NEW KNEES IM 40 YR OLD SO I SUFFER WITH ACUTE PAIN BECAUSE THE TABLETS DONT WORK IM ALREADY ON THE STRONGEST TABLETS MY DOCTOR CAN PRESCRIBE.PLANTAIR FASCIATUS//NAVICULAR OSSILE OF MY FEET ALSO TERRIBLE PAIN. I HAVE OSTEOATHERITUS OF MY SPINE SAME AGAIN VERY PAINFUL.I BARLEY SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE OF THE PAIN .MY HUSBAND SNORES VERY LOUDLY HIS DOCTOR SAYS OPERATING COULD MAKE HIS SNORING WORSE . HE ALSO NEEDS NEW KNEES .THIS PUTS EXTRA PRESURE ON BOTH OUR SLEEP PATTERN.THEREFORE WE NEED TO SLEEP SEPERATELY.WE NEED OUR SPARE ROOM.AND WE ARE PAYING FOR IT .BUT THIS TAX STINKS WE CAN BARLY EAT.WE DONT CLAIM DISABILITY BECAUSE WE ARE SCARED BECAUSE WE COULD BE WORSE OF .YOU COUNCILS ALWAYS FIND A WAY OF GIVING WITH ONE HAND AND TAKING IT BACK WITH EXTRA.BEFORE YOU GAVE US WHAT YOU SAID

Reply Posted by BARNSLEYLASS on Monday June 17 2013 at 03:01
WAS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT FOR US TO LIVE ON.SO TELL EVERYONE PLEASE WHY IM I NOW LIVING ON LESS THAN THE MINIMUM AND SO ARE MANY MANY OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE.AND YOU THINK THATS RIGHT.YOU SHOULD BE STANDING BY US NOT BACKSTABBING US AND STARVING OUR FAMILYS .WE REALY ARE DECIDING WHETHER WE SHOULD EAT OR HEAT OUR HOMES.BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU.HAVE NO CONSIDERATION FOR THOSE THEY SHOULD BE HELPING.ELECTRICY BILLS/WATER BILLS//GAS BILLS ALL GONE UP WITH PRICES HITTING THE ROOF FOOD BILLS MORE VAT THAT BY THE WAY IS ALREADY DEDUCTED WHEN WE PUT OUR MONEY IN THE BANK. AND NOW ROOM TAX AND RENT.JUST HOW MUCH MONEY FROM THE MEGAR AMOUNT YOU GIVE US A WEEK DO YOU THINK WE HAVE LEFT TO BUY FOOD AND OCASIONLY BUY CLOTHING FOR OURSELFES AND OUR CHILDREN.AND TRAVEL EXPENSES TO HOSPITALS AND SCHOOLS.YOUR KILLING THIS COUNTRY AND STABBING UK PEOPLE IN THE BACK.