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Tax Rise Needed To Replace Retiring Police

Tuesday February 5 2013

A COUNCIL tax rise is needed to help replace 60 police officers due to retire from the South Yorkshire force.

Commissioner Shaun Wright said the increase of about one pence per day would 'keep police on the beat', and allow officers due to retire to be replaced.

He suggested a rise of 3.6 per cent to generate about £1.6m in additional income for the force. That would work out as a £5-a-year rise, to £142.55, for the average Band D property.

Mr Wright said the planned £43m government budget cuts between 2010 and 2015 was 'exasperating' and represented a 20 per cent reduction for policing in the county.

He said: "I recognise that people want to see a greater police presence and to know that not only local petty crime, but also serious and organised criminal activity is efficiently and effectively reduced. Rather than just sit back and complain, it is my intention to get out there and get on with it'."

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Reply Posted by Outraged on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 11:36
Are you having a laugh!?

Reply Posted by G on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 11:42
Do they not forward plan for retirement? I mean, it's not like it's unexpected is it. They have x amount of years to forecast and provide for this. And surely the wages that they will now not be paying to these 60 officers that have retired can go to 60 new officers?

Reply Posted by jason pyne on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 11:54
Really confused here. Isn't the lowest band set at around £850 per year therefore a rise of at least £30 per year.
Where did your numbers come from?

Reply Posted by Mick on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 14:08
Your C Tax bill consists of 3 parts - majority contributes to Councils running costs, then there are parts for Police & Fire. This rise applies to the Police part. We don't know yet about the other 2.

Reply Posted by linda on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 12:11
how many dustmen are due to retire are we going to pay extra for them as well we soon wont be able to afford to eat the way every thing is going up

Reply Posted by no name on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 12:14
Make them work longer retiring at 50 what a joke then there still wanting jobs after they retired!

Reply Posted by Greenginger on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 14:03
You know nothing. Officers will soon be paying 14% of their wages to their pension. They are no longer allowed to work after retirement within the Police. Most retire after 55 and officers on new contracts have to work 35 years plus for a pension. So dont believe all the myths. This has nothing to do with Police Officers and everything to do with the new "elected" boss wanting to raise money for top boss perks. As per usual.

Reply Posted by carl on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 13:49
WHAT A JOKE half the time if you need them they dont turn up and when they do they do nothing ?? whats wrong with the special police volentiers taking up the slack ?? we already pay to much poll tax they only work till fifty yrs then get a fat pension and most get another job us brits are gettin fed up with paying through the nose for services we hardly or never use but have to pay full prices for the priviledge we need a revolution like in egypt or syria to tople these fat cat bosses and polatitions none of them have taken pay cuts WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH ???? well said linda

Reply Posted by Greenginger on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 14:05
Carl you are a joke. Why dont you try the job first then comment? Oh its probably because you would never have got in the job.
The Police do tons for society. I f you think you can do better why dont you volunteer to be a special and work for free? Or learn to spell first or use punctuation?

Reply Posted by anthony on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 14:39
What a complete pleb, there is so much wrong with that nonsense I don't know where to start! Police officers have to work till 67 like everyone else. Have a 3 year pay freeze and now had a £150 per MONTH pension contribution increase, as well as rubbish pension payouts now. Oh this on top of been spit at, abused and treated like scum, running round like madmen trying to do a job having lost 4000 bobbies in the last year! p.s what is polatitions???

Reply Posted by Westy on Thursday February 7 2013 at 22:15
25 years employment and finish on 2/3 final salary pension which is typically going to be 40 to 50 grand, cushty number that is. Get to a pension provider and ask for a quote for how much man on the street need to fork out to get an equivalent retirement and then come back . Plus they are all brainwashed in to believing they're only taking out what previous coppers have paid in.

@ Hillborough the average polis compo for distress was about 100 grand while relatives of those killed get 3 grand. how's that fair.

Reply Posted by Mick on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 14:11
People seem to be missing the point of the rise. It will offset a cut being made in the Police budget from the Govt and allow the recruitment of new officers the force wouldn't have been able to afford. It will be cheaper that keeping older offices as new recruits will not be paid as much.

Reply Posted by anthony on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 14:41
New officers have a starting salary of £19000 per annum, good luck at recruiting at that level!

Reply Posted by Mick on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 16:56
In this part of the country I don't imagine that a £19k starting salary will be a problem at all for anyone who seriously wants a career in the Police force. Long term pay progression + benefits & career prospects still make it a very good living. How the lower salary will affect more expensive parts of the country is probably a genuine cause for concern.

Reply Posted by mad bitch on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 20:18
Greenginger. ...Ur quite obviously a police ossiffer or have been one or wanna be one...try having any low paid boring jobs then u cud have an opinion about real life! Im afraid the bobbies have had too good for a while and everyone is having cuts so why not the police ur no different to any other hard working person. And why r u picking on carl.?...greenginger im gonna start calling u a 'PLEB' cause u r one lol

Reply Posted by maximus on Wednesday February 6 2013 at 15:50
well said....

Reply Posted by lyndon on Tuesday February 5 2013 at 21:24
You can tell a couple are plod picking up on spelling mistakes. Typical arrogance and superiority complex

Reply Posted by Leevy on Wednesday February 6 2013 at 11:48
Since there's been a 7% reduction in crime in South Yorkshire, why replace the one's retiring. They wont be missed the only time you see a policeman is at football matches.

Reply Posted by mick on Wednesday February 6 2013 at 17:21
Police should be paid by results .But that may put them below the minimum wage.

Reply Posted by Mick on Wednesday February 6 2013 at 17:38
I'm pleased to say that i'm not the 'mick' above (post at 17.21). No link between him & my previous comments which I hope are more in the real world.

Reply Posted by Me on Thursday February 7 2013 at 13:19
I would like to know exactly why council tax will ned to be increased to cover new police men, surely the ones retiring will have the pensions then the wages that went on those will now go on the new officers ( at a lower wage due to yearly increments gained by the previos officers)? Also, why was this not budgeted for? Again, surely the police force knew these people would be retiring. I also agree that when i have needed them after being beaten up by a random bloke whilst walking home from the pub, he ran off, i called the police they then blamed me and told me it was my fault for walking home, Beggars belief!

Reply Posted by Gill on Thursday February 7 2013 at 14:31
It's not just council policy but why oh why cannot someone tell me why South Yorkshire Police didn't do their sums and budget accordingly, perhaps the new department that is costing nearly a £140,00 for just 2 people's wages could investigate this after all that's what their supposed to be getting paid for, but hmm just a minute didn't Mr Wright just put out a press release about this very subject last night toeing the party line

Reply Posted by carl on Thursday February 7 2013 at 15:52
greenginger i do work and i pay taxes and pay for stuff i never use ie librarys sports centres and i would never call the police i deal with my problems not pass em on ??MAD BITCH well put green ginger is probly a failed copper now workin as a security guard ?? and for his inf i work as a bricklayer 6 days a week i also work at wembly stadium on occasions like finals and concerts i pay my way more that most ??and i might not spell everything correctly but i get my message across perfectly ? so tell us what do you realy do muppet

Reply Posted by donnio on Thursday February 7 2013 at 18:57
With the million of £££ cut from front line services what do people expect. The real shame herd is we're actually loosing 60 experienced officers some of whom should be allowed if they like to stay on at a lower pay grade if they like to as most love the job and the experience they have would be invaluable! I for one have no problem paying an extra £ a week to know if I had a burglar in my home, if I had been attacked or my child went missing as so many have done lately as seen on hers I can be sure that a police officer would be here immediately. Those that slate police usually do so as they have had their wrist slapped by them. They do a good job under difficult circumstances and having to expect others to do it for free because the force cant afford to pay them shows the kindness of those people but the sadness of the state of this country.
I dont feel this discussion should bare any judgement on those that comment as were all in difficult circumstances.
If the government gave free child care for two year olds who's parents were working rather than giving it to unemployed parents who have the time to go to playgroup and go to the parks and library etc, The savings would be able to be used on all public services.

Reply Posted by Bossinit on Thursday February 7 2013 at 19:06
Well said donnio....totally agree, them that hate the police have more likely have been in trouble with them. I do not mind paying more to get a better service. I work hard and play hard, you only get good out of life if your willing to put in. So stop complaining and get on with your life!!!

Reply Posted by carl on Thursday February 7 2013 at 21:14
well boss you seem to forget our police are still being investigated for hillbough and the miners strike they covered somthing so tragic up to save face and none were charged with giving false statments never mind the lies they told about fans being drunk and robing the dead SO EXCUSE ME FOR NOT HAVING FAITH IN A CORRUPT SOUTH YORKSHIRE POLICE FORCE

Reply Posted by anthony on Monday February 11 2013 at 11:19
Corrupt South Yorkshire police force? lots of the bobbies weren't even born in the time of Hillsborough! You clearly have an issue with the police, maybe that's down to personal experience or maybe you've been in trouble yourself but I KNOW the MAJORITY of police officers do a great job and are immensely dedicated to there job despite the abuse from the public and the disgusting way they are been treated by this government! p.s weren't the Liverpool fans to blame at all????

Reply Posted by stevo on Monday February 18 2013 at 18:18

What a load of absolute CRAP!

Oh we need the money to replace retiring officers,more like lets put the council tax up to balance the books from the Tory cuts.

Thats all it boils down to!

Houghton will be alright though,sitting in his ivory tower earning £150,000.00 a year.