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Planning Permission For New Homes Given Green Light

Friday October 31 2014




PLANNING permission for up to 325 new homes has been granted by the council.

The former North Gawber Colliery site in Mapplewell, between Spark Lane and Carr Green Lane, formerly had planning permission for 420 houses.

Barnsley Council turned this down four years ago but it was overturned on appeal. The latest plan includes about ten per cent affordable housing.

Councillors said they should push for more like 25 per cent, but chairman of the planning committee Doug Birkinshaw warned that this risked another appeal.

The proposed application, by Harworth Estates, includes the developer contributing £150,000 towards the education department to increase capacity at Mapplewell Primary, £120,000 towards the enhancement of public open space, and £70,000 towards the widening of Swallow Hill Road.

Coun Phil Davies said: "We seem to be being led by the nose by the developers. We seem to have lost the plot."

What do you think? Have your say below.

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Reply Posted by ray on Friday October 31 2014 at 16:00
We knew it was coming. Initial report showed high levels of contamination with heavy metals on the land an increased risk of flooding and uncertainty of land subsidence being they are building on a muckstack and pithead. That will be another 600 cars on seallow hill rd and 4 lane ends 400 more school places and 800 doctors places too. We dont want to risk annoying developers though do we?

Reply Posted by Charles on Friday October 31 2014 at 16:16
ray you are deluded why would they build on contaminated land that is going to flood and suffer from subsidence and its 420 houses so why is that 600 cars on swallow hill rd and 4 lane ends 400 school places they are donating 150.000 to education to make more room for kids and why would this mean the need 800 doctors they arnt all going to be ill on the same day are they wake up mate

Reply Posted by Ray on Friday October 31 2014 at 17:01
Charles it is contaminated land, anyone can look at the plans, have you even been to the site?

The issues I've raised were the self same ones raised by the council 4 years ago. The land is contaminated all old pit land is mecury bromium zinc oxide, the water runoff goes a nice orange colour in winter and a nice bright green if it goes in a pond. and as for subsiding I walk my dog there every day. and I've seen half of the site slide down the hill over the last 10 year and flood for about 6 months of the year. Then theres the tunnels underneath which they have no idea how many there are being that mining has been on that site and close by for nigh on 200 years.

My figures are purely guestimates. 375 houses now and most houses these days are 2 car houses so 600 is a reasonable figure.

150,000 won't go too far that will be an extra class for about 3 or 4 years, in a school that has no spare classrooms. 800 PLACES at a doctors not 800 doctors. You can't get an appointment and hill brow now so god know how that will work. Plus theres at least another 600 houses due on wakefield road and bloom house lane.

Do your sums. I think you need to wake up.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Sunday November 2 2014 at 09:12
Same old crap from Charles who A - Obviously doesn't live in the area B - Resorts to petty insults as he hasn't a bleeding clue.

Woolley Grange was built on contaminated land and the developer had to spend a lot of money on de-contamination.
As for the proposed Bloomhouse Lane site, this is also a contaminated site as it was a former landfill site!
The old "tip" was levelled out in 82 / 83.

QUOTE "
Coun Phil Davies said: "We seem to be being led by the nose by the developers. We seem to have lost the plot."


Why on earth do people living in our vicinity vote these idiots in?

Talk about stating the bleeding obvious!

BMBC are having to suffer massive cuts and the only way they can balance the books is by cutting front line staff and letting any tom, dick and harry build on green belt land.

Strata seem to be able to get planning permission at the drop of a hat to byuild anywhere they damn well like.....

Reply Posted by Ray on Monday November 3 2014 at 12:38
They aren't decontaminating the land on this project, the solution is to put more topsoil on that's what they said they will be doing.

Reply Posted by Hoyland Red on Monday November 3 2014 at 17:56
Erm, I might be stating the bleeding obvious here but the Council rejected the original application and the developer appealed and won. The decision was made by an independant planning inspector not the Council - they just pick up the bill for losing the appeal. Now if you're suggesting the Council reject this application only to lose again does that sound like a good use of tax payers money knowing they're going to lose - just stating the bleeding obvious like.

Reply Posted by Jimmy on Tuesday November 4 2014 at 08:59
Guestimate isn't a real word. You could try guess or estimate but not both at the same time.

Reply Posted by jon on Tuesday November 4 2014 at 09:04
jimmy - I think you will find this is a real word, but spelt guesstimate. don't make yourself look a fool.

Reply Posted by jon on Tuesday November 4 2014 at 09:12
guesstimate- an estimate usually made without adequate facts,

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Tuesday November 4 2014 at 14:28
I see HR the "comic" is back.

I was in fact referencing the quote about the council being led by the nose by the developers, hence my quote about stating the bleeding obvious.

£340,000 is pocket change to the developer that stands to make MILLIONS out of selling houses that NOBODY wants in this area.
Mapplewell and Darton have had enough houses built In our respective villages in the last 20 years.

No I AM stating the bleeding obvious like.

Reply Posted by Charles on Friday October 31 2014 at 18:25
Ok you must be a ground surveyor and a environmental scientist I've done the sums and I didn't get the same answers that you guestimated you are a deluded buffoon that doesn't like progress end of

Reply Posted by Ray on Friday October 31 2014 at 19:54
I read the surveys you clown and the report given by the council on the rejection.

The reason you didn't get the same answers is because you're stupid.

I've been following this for the last 4 years as it's close to where I live, I doubt you've even been anywhere near the area you tool.

Reply Posted by Mr C on Friday October 31 2014 at 18:57
Ok gentlemen calm down no need to get this upset its just business

Reply Posted by Mr C on Saturday November 1 2014 at 12:44
Ok ray you get a blue peter badge it will be coming in post you marvellous human being

Reply Posted by Anon on Monday November 3 2014 at 17:38
420 houses. taken on average 2 adults in say 80% of the houses thats 656 people, and lets say that 50% of them have 2 children, thats 328. then add the last 20% being single thats over a 1000. someones not done the maths very well

Reply Posted by Roger on Monday November 3 2014 at 17:59
Mapplewell is a lovely village with plenty of independent shops and food outlets. The extra income generated by these houses will secure the future of these shops and keep this village attractive for further investment.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Tuesday November 4 2014 at 14:30
I concur!
However, it is absolutely chocker with traffic at peak times, do you SERIOUSLY believe that this development ISNT going to have a detrimental effect on the people and lives of said people in said village and surrounding villages?

Reply Posted by Jimmy on Tuesday November 4 2014 at 09:03
Will these houses be for English people? I'm sick of living in Poland.

Reply Posted by d on Wednesday November 5 2014 at 03:06
Lets just hope they do actually help increase the primary school, I live next door to the school and already been told that Mapplewell school is over subscribed and I may struggle to get my 2 and a half year old into the nursery and subsequently ghe school. The last thing Mapplewell needs is yet more houses in an already very very over populated area. Woolley Grange is very large and people are struggling to get their children into a school of choice, this is just going to add to the problem. But hey, who am I to argue with a developer!

Reply Posted by Christine palmer on Saturday January 9 2016 at 17:26
Please let me know when these affordable houses will be released and prices and details. I require either 3 or 2 bed semi-detached.

Reply Posted by ron on Saturday March 12 2016 at 07:22
1940's 1950's I remember walking from Carr Green along an old footpath beside a slurry pond, under the aerial flight to the colliery slag heap to Pye Avenue.
At that time the small dyke running from Spark Lane towards Carr Green was contaminated by the colliery waste water run off.
At one time oak trees grew along side the dyke, but alas, they slowly died by the contamination seeping into the soil.
An old area in Carr Green was called "Cokesler", this relating to the old North Gawber colliery Coke Works, they are mentioned in the history of the colliery.
I recall visiting the Carr Green area in the 1980's, at that time a coal seam was being strip mined next to the old Potty Croft football field.
It would not be surprising to find owners of new homes on this site growing cauliflowers as they tend to filter contaminants from the soil.