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Affordable Housing Must Be Part Of Developer's Plans

Monday April 28 2014




A HOUSING developer has been told it must incorporate affordable housing into its new 60-home scheme.

Barnsley Council's planning board rejected Gleeson's application to withdraw that aspect of the development on Lowfield Road, Bolton-on-Dearne.

The original agreement from planning permission granted in 2011 said that eight of the 60 houses must be affordable.

Six out of those properties were to be for social rent with the other two for intermediate rent.

Gleeson representatives say this would result in them losing money and applied to amend the plans.

But that was turned down as the site does not warrant any alterations in the planning officer's view.

Planning officer Joe Jenkinson said: "It would cost £354,000 to provide these eight affordable homes and if you look at profit margins, it is still going to make a 17 per cent profit.

"Our recommendation is to refuse this application and we would appreciate backing on this one."

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Reply Posted by avril on Monday April 28 2014 at 14:42
Thers literally HUNDREDS of empty houses across Barnsley ..all were ' affordable' when built .. some still under £80.000 to buy , and hundreds of terrace houses empty ..all under £75.000 or to rent at £300 -£350 + per month. this is affordable to some people . but its the people on benefits that ARE benefitting !The council or housing associations acquire them , and rent then out to people on benefits who get their rent paid ? so , the council get nothing back , yet STILL bulld more ?So what exactly does affordable mean ... when theyre free ?

Reply Posted by Sal on Monday April 28 2014 at 15:03
Its time to give social housing to the workers. Council houses were for the WORKING to rent. Not the long term benefit claimants, not the single parents. Let's start helping all those who are trying to help themselves, who are working long hours for ridiculous low wages. Please note I am not against genuine claimants such as those with real disabilities. In fact sort the work shy, stop giving people the right to have child after child while the state supports them and we could give some real help to the disabled and those who are being made unemployed later in life and can't find jobs.

Reply Posted by Thomas Dean on Monday April 28 2014 at 15:37
How about we have council housing for all?

It's in our financial interests as a society to build and own housing stock. We can save vast sums of taxpayers money in the long term (with not very long needed for a return to be made) by building publicly owned homes for the public.

Council houses for PUBLIC PROFIT. For workers, unemployed workers, pensioners, disabled. For everyone.

The way things are going, everyone will be a long term benefit claimant, the amount of people in work forced in to the private housing sector and onto housing benefit to pay extortionate and government subsisided rents is going up and up and up.

Millions of workers are being forced into benefit dependency and it is not unemployment that is causing it. It's government subsidy for rent and house prices forcing rents and house prices up above a fair free-market value.

We need a right to build alongside a mass council house building program. And we need the public to get involved and design the type of housing they will live in, and the neighbourhoods where the housing will be.

Do you want a barrat box crammed into a housing estate, after public amenities have been demolished and the land underneath sold for the vast profit of a private individual?

Or do you want a generously proportioned home, in a neighbourhood with public amenities, built on public land, where the profits made are retained by the public and used to improve the local area for the benefit of all?

We need to start the debate about better housing. Before we end up rushing into a situation where build we build poor housing in the wrong place, due to the housing crisis we have gotten ourselves into because we haven't bothered to think about the future housing needs of the people for over 30 years.

For the past 18 years, the most financially rewarding thing a person in the UK could have done is to take out debt and speculate on housing.
That is entirely unproductive, and it hinders productive growth elsewhere in the economy, it is actually detrimental to the real economy and living standards.

Whereas people doing good things, like saving and investing in productive business, have actually been losing money. At expense to themselves and everyone else.

A terraced house under £80000 isn't affordable to the young people of our town working for meagre wages.

What is 'affordable'?

What is a 'fair' price?

Let people build, give them the right to build, and we will soon have affordable housing and find out how low the price can be driven. But instead of a few houses here and there been crammed into towns on the few remaining green spaces due to the occasional granting of planning permission for favoured organisations operating in what can only be described as a cartel. We can have new towns built by the people who will live in them.

And instead of having one of the lowest rates of self-build housing in Europe, we could have one of the highest.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Tuesday April 29 2014 at 09:14
I agree with the most of that Thom, however, the Tories are trying to do exactly what they did in the 80's by artificially stimulating the economy by massive house building projects, it didn't work then and it most certainly wont work now.
The large majority of people that work in our town just cant afford to get on the property ladder as the house prices are extortionate.
Even renting is out of the reach of some people as even some flea pit two bed terraced houses in unsavoury areas are up to £130 a WEEK!

The council tell us that we "need" 20 odd thousand houses by 2030, where do you think these houses are going to go?

YUP you guessed it,.Greenbelt!

We are blessed with masses of greenbelt in Barnsley but we do not have the road infrastructure or school places for some of these massive estates.

AND who do you think is going to buy these houses?
Again, YUP, people from outside the area will snap up the houses as they are a LOT cheaper than they would be in Leeds /Sheffield / Huddersfield / Wakefield / Doncaster then the people who have bought these houses would commute back to their jobs in other towns and cities.

Reply Posted by april on Monday April 28 2014 at 16:06
A terrace house under £80.00 IS afffordable to young people IF they work ? But , there are some at £40 and £50.000 if theyre prepared to modernise them ! A young couple could get a mortgage now the deposits have been lowered .. they do as everyone else did .. save the deposit ... get a house !.. 50 -60 yrs ago people lived with their parents in a 3 bed house . til they could afford to move out ! They managed ! If people can' t' afford a mortgage .. how can they build their own houses ?There are thousands of builders , build on ng spare plots of land , shoving houses into every orifice ,, do you think its not for profit Thomas ? No one can afford these either .. NOBODY will build a house to give it away ?

Reply Posted by x on Monday April 28 2014 at 21:51
april £80.000 is not affordable to young families when my daughter tried to get on to the housing ladder she was told that even though her husband works full time, because he earns minimum wage and she is on uncontracted hrs her wages cant be taken into account when applying for a mortgage, he doesnt earn enough even though the mortgage payments would have been slightly less than they are paying in rent, so its not as simple as you seem to think to get out of rented houses

Reply Posted by Sal on Monday April 28 2014 at 22:06
Its so hard to get on housing ladder for the majority. My brother and his partner have just bought there first house in their 30s. They both earn a decent wage but had to save for such a huge deposit that its taken them years. People on minimum or low wages can't save these deposits while paying high rents. I'm so glad we got on the housing ladder 20 years ago but I worry about my teenagers and how they will afford to buy.

Reply Posted by Observer on Tuesday April 29 2014 at 05:26
The resson/ s we nave a shortage of housing are clear firstly thatcher sold off the council houses. Secondly greedy southerners formed consortiums bought up all the cheapies. And thirdly we have an influx of eauropean ethnics flooding the country and requiring places to live. End of. How do we sort it ?????? Good question

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Tuesday April 29 2014 at 09:05
What exactly IS affordable housing?
£100k for a wafer thin walled box thrown up in a few days?

These houses @ £100k are NOT affordable houses for the large majority of people in Barnsley!

Gleeson say they cant make a profit, what a complete and utter load of tosh!
A two bed brand new semi including all land cost currently averages around £30K to build, we know this, they know this!

Seems the idiots at the council have finally grown a pair and about time too.

Reply Posted by steveomg on Wednesday April 30 2014 at 19:10
If i give you £30k will you build me a house steveo?

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday May 1 2014 at 19:45
The £30K was for one half of the semi, silly!

Reply Posted by rainbow on Wednesday April 30 2014 at 08:30
Affordable housing from what I have seen are the future slums. You can't swing a cat arround in them. Build proper houses that people will thrive in not the Victorian terraces that had to be torn down during the 20th century. Were going backwards as far as housing is concerned, but this will take European government intervention to sort out it's no good forcing countries like Britain to accept an endless stream of immigrants and then leave them to sort out the mess that Labour caused by encouraging it.???