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Council To Start Ambitious Broadband Project

Friday March 7 2014


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THE council is embarking on another ambitious broadband project to deliver superfast speeds to 95 per cent of the region by 2017.

The new scheme is being led by Barnsley, Rotherham, Doncaster and Sheffield councils with support from the Sheffield City Region's local enterprise partnership.

The cost - which is estimated to be around £15 million - will be delivered by a chosen private sector provider, thought to be either BT or Fujitsu.

Part of the funding for the project is expected to come from Broadband Delivery UK (BDUK), a government-funded scheme to transform broadband delivery across the country.

Barnsley Council's involvement with the new scheme follows the demise of the Digital Region Ltd project, which the council invested £7m in to and ended up costing taxpayers a staggering £155m before being abandoned last August.

The consultation papers say it is 'vital to the growth of the region' that all residents have access to next generation access broadband service.

"We believe that access to the internet is no longer a luxury, it is a necessity," it states.

What do you think to this? Is it worth the money? Have your say below.

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Reply Posted by nivereet on Friday March 7 2014 at 12:59
So £155 million was handed over and we got nothing, so we are going to hand over more millions so a private company can install superfast broadband which we have then to pay for all over again pfffft. Can i just ask when its all fitted and we can all access this "necessity" will we be able to afford it, as it stands we pay around £17 line rental plus around £5 for broadband would the new superfast broadband be around the same pricemark erm no it wont, yet we've paid them to do it oh and lets not forget the poor sods who dont live on a main road because they will never have it.

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 13:07
Well, that's a Labour council for you! Take money, waste money, then blame government for lack of funds, then waste more money....oh and then put your council tax up by the MAXIMUM they are allowed to!

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 13:20
Has anybody seen their business plans, budget, contingency plan, operational structure, breakdown of costs, coverage map, comparisons over each provider etc etc etc???

My guess is not and Labour council have simply signed on the dotted line exposing each tax payer to fund the cost, without proper public consultation.

Somebody got rich last time around....AND IT WASN'T THE INNOCENT TAX PAYER. Prawn sandwich at Town Hall anyone??

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 13:24
And another thing........public WIFI is not very secure and can be easily hacked. What measures are being put in place to protect users of the public WIFI?

Reply Posted by dave on Friday March 7 2014 at 14:27
public wifi is as secure as the service profider wnats it to be Richard!! it has nothing to do with hacking, you clearly know nothing about this and just want a bullshit rant about the gov!!.

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 14:31
Err ok dave. Of course we aren't entitled to rant about a council WASTING £155million of OUR money! Silly person.

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 14:33
Perhaps you misunderstood that PERHAPS, just PERHAPS the Council should be asking questions about internet security and anti-hacking measures that the service provider THE COUNCIL CHOOSES will have in place. Just PERHAPS!

Reply Posted by Joe on Friday March 7 2014 at 14:53
Talk about obsessed.

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 15:14
Not obsessed, its called perseverance.....Folk need telling exactly what is going on....in recent times people are beginning to see for themselves, but would otherwise have been a sheep following the Labour herd year after year.

Well enough is enough.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Saturday March 8 2014 at 06:54
Yes you are right "Folk need telling exactly what is going on...."

Would you like me to post the list of the Tory / Lib Dums wrongs then?

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Tuesday March 11 2014 at 10:15
here's a little list I complied on your beloved coalition, just for you Richard..

Royal wedding £2.9 BILLION
Olympics £11.9 BILLION
Jubilee Celebrations £3 BILLION
Tax cuts for the rich £4.8 BILLION
Tax cuts for corporates £ 5 BILLION
Reforms £10.5 BILLION and rising daily....

TOTAL - £25.9 BILLION

Welfare "Reform" Cutting benefits for the sick and disabled MINUS £3.5 BILLION

The Tories (coalition) the party of the rich for the rich...

What "austerity"?

Obviously this is a mere scratch on the surface...

Want me to dig a little deeper?

Reply Posted by Bad maths from Steveo on Tuesday March 11 2014 at 10:29
Your maths is wrong.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Tuesday March 11 2014 at 10:34
yes you are right, I missed one off the list and the reforms bit should be a line down.
That better cherub?

Reply Posted by Richard on Thursday March 13 2014 at 23:40
Steveo, you forgot to deduct the amount of revenue the Royal Family brings into the economy via tourism.....its obviously a lot more than what has been spent, so I find it hard to recognise exactly why you would try to introduce this as part of a financial argument.

The Olympics has long term benefits which I shouldn't need to explain to you, but it will eventually pay for itself, unlike the Millennium Dome which Labour threw £1BILLION at, which was a huge flop at the tax payer's expense.

What about the amount immigration has cost us all in the past two decades £150 BILLION (of which Labour govt were responsible for the vast majority of this during their 13 years in government).

The tax cuts for the rich I agree that this is wrong, but you need to remember that if the rich are taxed too heavily, then they will simply move abroad and therefore, pay NO TAX to the UK purse whatsoever. The Lib Dems however, have ensured that inheritance tax hits the richest the hardest.

Personally, I'd be looking at attacking overseas corporations such as Starbucks for example, as they're not exactly paying staff top wages in addition to the huge tax avoidance they are bleeding from us.

Reply Posted by Richard on Thursday March 13 2014 at 23:52
Steveo, have you noticed how WAB have removed a couple of stories and the threads below?

Fire station being moved and also the thread about the road needing another resurface......Think maybe we got a bit too close to the truth....what do you reckon?

Reply Posted by Kfc on Friday March 7 2014 at 15:13
Ambitious Barnsley Council do us a favour.Next they will put Calamity Miller in charge.The only thing to come out of the Town Hall is the steps down Regent Street.

Reply Posted by Joe on Friday March 7 2014 at 15:22
And who exactly are you? And why would anyone take the slightest bit of notice of you?

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 16:15
Would you rather take notice of Dugher or Miller et al?

I'm merely challenging their monumental foul ups and bringing them to the attention of the hoodwinked Labour voting tax payer.

Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing. My arguments are valid and their mistakes are documented and carved in history. Check it for yourself, Joe. Labour will not want me posting on here, because the truth hurts them...ALOT.

Reply Posted by AlanB on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:30
It should hurt them, but I doubt it does. It will be like 'water off a ducks back' as far as these thick skinned Labour councillors are concerned. The really sad thing is that they think they are doing a good job.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Saturday March 8 2014 at 06:56
Your arguments are tantamount to Chinese water torture, are one sided and you will not listen.

Lib Dums and Sheffield City Council for starters....

Reply Posted by Del on Friday March 7 2014 at 15:35
I don't believe in monopolies but given BT has now wired up most of Barnsley with fibre can't we just pay them to finish the job? Here in Silkstone Common we've no currently no chance of fibre at our exchange but the surrounding exchanges have been upgraded :( a bit of cash flung at BT might go a lot further than a DR bodge or starting again.

Reply Posted by cp on Friday March 7 2014 at 16:15
am i missing something here? the council held a meeting last week i think it was saying that they have to cut benefits for the elderly but can spend millions on internet cabling. i know technology is important but im sure my nan would be mcuh happier with affording heating etc rather than having a good broadband connection!! (and richard dont jump in kissing tory bottoms pls) x

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 16:19
@cp I don't need to say anything, you've highlighted yet another problem without any of my help!

Reply Posted by cp on Friday March 7 2014 at 16:22
it is a problem but it seems to be nationwide. sod the poor and old as long as the rich folk have internet......

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 16:26
Correction.....Barnsley council are in charge of their own purse strings and not every town in the country has public WIFI paid for by their councils tax payers (and without proper public consultation at that)!

They could have decided to put money into care for the elderly. They chose not to.

Reply Posted by cp on Friday March 7 2014 at 16:31
Richard dont take this wrong (well you can for me lol) but all the Tory dribble that falls from your mouth will not change my political views, nor the majority of people you hound with it. I have only voted once due my age but i would NEVER vote for the Tories. look at the state the country is in, it isnt all labours fault its down to all parties and mp looking after their own pockets. the only way you wouldnt have idiots in power would be to elect a dog.
And if you dont like barnsley council just stop whining and cast your vote at the election or move!

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 16:46
cp seems you don't read my posts in detail. I am not a Tory, so I'm rather confused why you are harping on about this point.

I also think you have missed the point as to the real reasons why this country AND Barnsley are in the state they are in. Barnsley council has been run by Labour for a VERY long time, and it has not improved. Labour were in power nationally between 1997 - 2010 and in that time they took us to war, invested in failed NHS IT systems, created a banking crisis followed by a mortgage crisis, education has fallen dramatically in the European league table....shall I keep going??

IF you vote Labour secure in the knowledge that you know all there is to know about how USELESS Labour actually are.....then I pity you and your family.

Reply Posted by cp on Friday March 7 2014 at 16:52
sorry richard but for the last week all i have seen from you is how terrible labour are and how if tories were in this wouldnt happen.
you can bamble all you like if it makes you feel better :)
i know labour are useless as you keep saying say but so is every other political party. voting is simply a bet as to who you think will screw you over slightly less than the other for the next 5 years and who is telling slightly less lies (usually the one who says the least).

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 17:31
How do you know any other party is as bad as Labour in Barnsley? You've never seen another party in Barnsley! Silly person

Reply Posted by Dan on Friday March 7 2014 at 16:43
IF A DOG DID PUT UP FOR BARNSLEY AS A LABOR CANDIDATE IT WOULD WIN PAWS DOWN

Reply Posted by .... on Friday March 7 2014 at 17:16
He's a Lib-Dem apparently big mates with Nick Clegg as well he was saying last night. I prefer deluded fantasist.

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 17:31
Oh dear.... seems you know very little.

Reply Posted by .... on Friday March 7 2014 at 17:39
Here we go everyone will be silly that doesn't agree with his rubbish, same old same old.Go on then Dicky I'll humour you, please enlighten me.

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 17:52
Sorry .... but you've had your chances to have a proper conversation or debate with me on many occasions all with a similar outcome. Your aim is always to antagonise, so its not worth telling you anything.

Reply Posted by .... on Friday March 7 2014 at 17:56
Oh go on please.

Reply Posted by Joe on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:22
I think he actually does believe his rantings on WAB will make A difference to how people vote in Barnsley!!!

Reply Posted by Fred on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:53
You never know Joe, they might wake up and smell the coffee. There needs to be a change at BMBC thats for sure.

Reply Posted by .... on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:32
You aint seen nothing, his delusions hold no boundaries.

Reply Posted by Brian on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:41
I think that Richard talks a lot of common sense. Sadly, many of the posters on here who lean to the left, find it difficult to see life from a different perspective. They should stop and think and start to question themselves a little more. Let's be honest, the Labour lot that run this town do not have a good track record. In fact I would suggest that they are hopeless and they continue to waste your money and mine on a grand scale.

Reply Posted by listen to richard on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:43
Richard talks sense, any intelligent person would know that.

Reply Posted by cameron on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:51
YES NONSENSE

Reply Posted by .... on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:45
Here we go with the alter-egos.

Reply Posted by Rt Hon Mr Nick Clegg on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:49
I agree with my mate Richard.

Reply Posted by Fred on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:50
What a surprise Diane, you're having a hissy fit over Richards posts once again.

Reply Posted by .... on Friday March 7 2014 at 18:56
Ha ha, full house tonight!

Reply Posted by Fred on Friday March 7 2014 at 19:46
You sound like you're easily pleased Di. Would you now like a tissue?

Reply Posted by Kfc on Friday March 7 2014 at 20:17
We Know we are all doomed when the Tory/Com dem government award a knighthood to a Labour controlled Council Leader.


Reply Posted by STEVEO on Saturday March 8 2014 at 07:03
I concur!

Any "normal" bloke would have turned it down straight away but not Houghton...

Whatever next ?

I can just see the headlines "Duggy "dugher" in " I haven't had my mug in the gutter tabloids or local rag yet this week"

Reply Posted by Simon Walsh on Saturday March 8 2014 at 08:54
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Labour have held absolute power in Barnsley for many years. Go figure.

Reply Posted by TheWalrus on Saturday March 8 2014 at 15:53
Got to waste some more money before the end of the financial year?

Reply Posted by Dave on Saturday March 8 2014 at 17:45
Can someone please explain why the £155million South Yorkshire network can't be utilised and built upon by the partnership's preferred partner. Surely all that money paid for a fibre-optic network spanning 98% of SY. The original digital fiasco is not a BMBC one it is a government & councils partnership which is how things work these days. If you want funding for anything in your region you have to follow the government of the day's rules or get nothing.

Reply Posted by Ray on Saturday March 8 2014 at 19:26
Still waiting for then quest into the digital region to come out and they decide to rob us again. What a w. R.

Reply Posted by Littleoldlady on Tuesday March 11 2014 at 08:35
Another debate featuring the local drama queens, concluding with handbags at dawn!.......yawn:)

Reply Posted by ^§^§^§^§^§^§` on Tuesday March 11 2014 at 17:59
And thanks for your massive contribution on the subject Littleoldlady.

Reply Posted by Lee on Friday March 14 2014 at 17:30
Will this mean that BT will upgrade the many cabinets they have missed. I live on a new-ish housing estate (10 years old all private no social housing) in Barnsley, which is surrounded by council houses. All the cabinets around me have been upgraded, but ours has not. After emailing BT I was informed they have no plans to upgrade my cabinet. Yet all surrounding councils houses have lovely faster fibre.

Reply Posted by ...... on Friday April 4 2014 at 13:12
@Lee

I feel your pain, I am in exactly the same situation. Newish estate, stuck on 2 MB connection on a good day. Yet every street within several hundread meters of me has either BT Fibre or VirginMedia and after speaking with both of them they both say it is not finacially viable to do our street.

Digital Region got as far as digging the road up to our cabinet then went bust. My main question on this possible new pot of money is will it cover areas that were missed or just go to add another high speed option to those that already have one. The same as they did with Digital region.