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Woman Jailed After Alhambra Theft

Wednesday December 4 2013


Barnsley Magistrates' Court Barnsley Magistrates' Court


A WOMAN has been jailed for 14 weeks - for trying to make her son's Christmas 'a bit better'.

Emma Louise Gurney, 36, stole items worth £17 from Primark in the Alhambra Centre, Barnsley Magistrates' Court was told.

Her solicitor Julian Brook said Gurney got £100 in Jobseekers' Allowance every fortnight and the money tended to run out quickly.

Mr Brook said: "She resorted to theft to get Christmas presents for her child. She stole to make her son's Christmas a little bit better.

"This may be a petty theft but she could have no complaint if she was sent straight to prison."

Chantel Lowery-Green, prosecuting, said Gurney, of Moorland Avenue, Barnsley, was stopped after leaving the shop.

District Judge John Foster said he had no alternative to her being locked up because she had been given a suspended prison sentence only two months earlier.

Gurney admitted shoplifting.

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Reply Posted by Kelly on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:00
Poor woman. I don't expect her son is going to have a nice Christmas without her. People make silly mistakes sometimes, with the best intentions and things end up worse.

Reply Posted by LV on Saturday December 7 2013 at 19:13
She was given a suspended sentence 2 months ago, she should have learnt her lesson. She has a child she should be thinking about the consequences of breaking the law before her incident 2 months ago!!! I feel sorry for her son, but she gets absolutely no sympathy from me! I hope this knocks a bit of sense in!!

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:01
So it's going to cost the tax payer £11,000 to lock this person up over Christmas.....all for the sake of £17 theft?

Is the judge stark raving mad??

Reply Posted by sammie on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:17
well said Richard

Reply Posted by paul on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:40
err did you bother to read as far as the bit she got a
"suspended sentence only two months earlier"
Or shall we just let her and everyone else steal at will and use the Christmas child excuse? How about the Judge sends her around to your house and pinch what you have rather than lock her up?

Reply Posted by sarah on Friday December 6 2013 at 13:48
It ant 11 grand she will only do 7 week out 14 n its 100 a day well 97 a day so it cost 6 grand to keep her for 17 pound its well bad ant it

Reply Posted by Lorna on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:02
Isn't a jail sentence a bit too harsh for £17?

Reply Posted by BW on Thursday December 5 2013 at 14:08
The prison sentence will be for the crime she was convicted of previously, which would have carried a prison sentence but held off on the condition she didn't commit further crime. Knowing this she must be absolutley stupid to even consider any sort of crime, especially if she was thinking of her child's christmas. Look what she has done now, and there is no way to say it isn't deserved.

Reply Posted by Lynn Jones on Thursday December 5 2013 at 16:05
you wouldn't say that if you knew the history, this woman has had chance after chnce... she did not steal for her son, he lives with her mother and doubt he can remember the last time he saw her or she bought him anything, for Christmas, birthday or anything else.....

Reply Posted by Lol on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:05
Judge does right. Theiving scum

Reply Posted by rm on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:06
She had a suspended jail sentence two months before....judge had no choice.

Reply Posted by LAURA on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:06
omg 14weeks in jail 4 tryin 2 give her kids sumit 4xmas shame on u judge

Reply Posted by jen on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:07
it is abit harsh a jail sentence bt the judge ad no choice as she wa already on a suspended prison sentence...... didnt any1 else read the full article???

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:09
@ lol, I'm hoping you've paid any outstanding debts (maybe even 'Bedroom Tax') as if it comes to more than £17 you'd be labelled the same "thieving scum", which of course is what you would be too by your own definition.

Reply Posted by heluvsit on Thursday December 5 2013 at 14:10
1st post seemed ok but here he goes again.

Reply Posted by Wendy on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:13
I try to make my sons Christmas a bit better by working to pay for his gifts and when my son was a baby and my older kids were at home and we were briefly on benefits I made their Christmas better by budgeting and buying bit by bit. Her son and his Christmas is an excuse!!

Reply Posted by hownice on Thursday December 5 2013 at 08:13
Well aren't you a saint......

Very well done Wendy.

Reply Posted by rm on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:14
Some people don't get it!!!! THE JUDGE HAS NO CHOICE!!!! she's on a suspended sentence ffs.

Reply Posted by June on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:15
A more accurate headline would be "Habitual thief jailed for breaking terms of suspended sentence"

She stole, she got caught, she is paying the price. Other people want nicer Christmas treats for their children but don't steal. Most people would especially have the sense not to do it when already on a suspended sentence.

I say shame on her, did she consider the consequences to her child when she stole?

The judge had no choice nor should he have,

Reply Posted by TheGuardian on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 23:35
You are correct

Reply Posted by Matt on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:16
This woman hasn't been sent to prison for just stealing £17 of stuff from Primark!! She is most likely a serial offender and as she already had a suspended sentence hanging over her she knew that if she got caught where she would end up. I have no sympathy for her whatsoever!!

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:16
I'm in no way condoning theft. Xmas is no real excuse, but the pressures are understandable and can be sympathised with.

The judge handing out 14 weeks in prison at the cost of £11,000 is extremely disproportionate to the crime of stealing just £17.

The judge is a fool and is simply wasting tax payers money. There are cheaper more effective ways of dealing with this woman. E.g she could have been made to clean Primark's toilets for a week and rewarded with the £17. That way she can learn her lesson, be out to spend Xmas with her kid and give her kid a present that she EARNED cleaning toilets.

Reply Posted by southern boy on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:19
She is a thief so she should pay for her crime its a pity more of the towns thief's don't get banged up using the excuse it was for her son at Christmas. Lucky we don't all think it is okay to steal when a bit short

Reply Posted by SALLY on Thursday December 5 2013 at 08:16
THE REAL OFFENCE HERE IS YOUR BAD GRAMMAR IT'S 'THIEVES' NOT 'THIEF'S'

Reply Posted by hmmm on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:38
You can't really be getting on at him for using bad grammar when your comment lacks punctuation.

Reply Posted by Simon on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:21
Why can people not get it into their heads that she isn't being locked up at a cost of £11,000 for a £17 theft. She was on a suspended sentence from 2 months previous. For God's sake read the bloody article!!!

Reply Posted by Sarah on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:21
Do you lot not read the full article? Shes obviously done previous crimes to get a suspended sentence. £17 is not a lot but its still theft, it would be different if she stole from you. She didnt learn hrr lesson two month prior so maybe she might after jail.

Reply Posted by sarah on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:26
u break the law u get punished end of do the crime do the time

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:30
@ Simon, this is why the country has become so bad.

The cost to the tax payer for locking someone up for 14 weeks is circa £11,000.

The article says she was on a suspended sentence. Ok, doesn't go into details.

The charge in this instance is theft of £17 of goods.

How is this helping anybody (including her kid) by locking her up?

Why can't the judge explore other options such as what I suggested above?

Why spend £11,000 of our money, which if she is a serial offender is in no way going to help her long term?

Why not give her an option of earning the £17 by doing something unpleasant yet rewarding at the end of it?

All I see is everyone wanting to lock them all up forever. What about trying to rehabilitate these people? Give them an opportunity to make their lives better?

Geez you people have no idea.

Reply Posted by June on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:38
We have every idea.

* People do not get suspended jail sentences for first convictions of petty theft

* When people reach the stage whereby they do get a suspended sentence they have already been through the courts numerous times and most non-custodial methods have been tried

*Then as a last resort they are told "do it again and it will be prison"

She did it again
She is going to prison

The judge had no choice as she was under s suspended sentence, it's the law.

She did however have a choice and she chose to steal, knowing that it would be an automatic jail term if she was caught.

And you blame the judge?

HER fault
HER choice
HER responsibility

No one forced her to steal


Stop excusing these people, perhaps now she will learn that crime does not pay,

Reply Posted by sid on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 19:04
You're right I think Richard.

Reply Posted by Lynn Jones on Thursday December 5 2013 at 16:14
Unfourtunatley she probably won't learn... you are quite right, she has had chance after chance, we used to go to court with her and help her plead her case, we don't bother now. Its her mum and her son I feel sorry for, she didn't and never has stole for them..... her mum brought her son up who is 19, she has not seen him or bought him anything for ages, but she feels fit to drag them down by plastering there address all over the local papers every few month's when she does not even live there has not for years. The likes of you and me would not have been given as many chances as she has had I can tell you

Reply Posted by Really on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:38
What are you talking about he could have given her an option to earn the £17 instead of sending her to prison, I have news people that option is already available it's called a 'job'. Don't all run off at once!

Reply Posted by Simon on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:43
@Richard

right, so you expect the judge to just throw everything out the window and say, "remember last time how we said you'd go to prison if you did anything like this again? Well we were only fibbing. Go on... On your way... Cheeky little scamp."

Like somebody above has said. Her choice, she knew the rules. The judge is only enforcing the rules.

Reply Posted by Simon on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:48
Also, there are far more people out there in similar, if not worse, circumstances that would not have resorted to stealing.

I do feel for the woman, but she made her decision

Reply Posted by big keith on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:54
Any regular readers of the chronicle will have seen this woman's name pop up quite frequently, she is an habitual shop lifter, it seems that all other options have been tried but she continues to commit more offenses, a jail term is the last resort, she has no-one else to blame but herself.

Reply Posted by Lynn Jones on Thursday December 5 2013 at 16:18
Well said... you will also have seen the address plastered all over the papers too..... SHE DOES NOT LIVE THERE !!!!!!!!! how they could let her out on bail last time without checking her address begs belief, the address she is using is her mums address. Her mum lives there with Emma's son who is 19 now and has brought him up his whole life without any help from her !!!!!!! and to be frank is a little more than fed up at her address being plastered all over the papers. She has been onto the police, the courts, but there seems no one even bothered that her poor family have to deal with the aftermath, time, after time, after time...........

Reply Posted by Purple Haze on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:54
Hah so this time she steals from a shop ans many of you say "it was only £17".

So if she breaks into a house or a car or mugs someone and only takes "£17" will that be ok?

She is obviously a serial offender and does not give two hoots about her child. Poor kid will no doubt be dragged up and have a crap life due to a crap parent. A toy or new socks will not remedy that.

Reply Posted by Simon on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 13:59
The problem with this country is the law can't win. Let repeat offenders off and spare any kind of punishment and people are up in arms banging on about the country's mad and where's the deterrent? But then punish a repeat offender and jail them, people are up in arms again about the cost. It's ridiculous

Reply Posted by B on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 14:01
Feel sorry for him?? What kind of Christmas is he going to have now?? This woman doesn't even have custody of 'her son' and has nothing to do with him. I know her and she is a repeat criminal and deserves this custodial sentence. She has been previously warned. Maybe if the courts got the facts right and not drag the rest of her poor family and the woman who has brought up her son for the past 19 years through the papers she will be seen for the thief she really is. Using her 'son' as an excuse for stealing is unbelievable and unforgivable. Her son will have a lovely Christmas like he has done all his life!

Reply Posted by Lynn Jones on Thursday December 5 2013 at 16:21
Well said, her mum has brought her son up alone and done a damn good job I might add, they don't this constantly plastered all over the paper, I don't know how the courts keep letting her get away with using her mums address... SHE DOES NOT LIVE THERE..................

Reply Posted by ^^^^ on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 14:01
In total agreement with purple haze, I'm a mum of three under five and struggling but I would not risk stealing to give to my children, my children would never go without although my money doesn't spread that far.
I'm guessing the convict spends money on herself than buying for her child, shame on her x

Reply Posted by T on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 14:02
She gets £100 a fortnight jsa? If she's got a kid what about the £50 a wk child tax and £20 a wk child benefit she must also get. No excuse. It's hard for everyone. And if your gonna get caught stealing at least nip upstairs to next or tkmaxx and make it worth it.

Reply Posted by Anon on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 14:09
This 36 year old ladies son is 19 years old, she hasn't had custody of him for 17 years and always has a great Xmas....using your sin to be spared from jail unbloodybelievable!! She's a serial offender !!

Reply Posted by Alex on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 14:22
I usually defend people on benefits, because life is hard on them but on this occasion I can't. She gets more than most, and stealing is no excuse even at Christmas. She's obviously done it before, and what else is there left for a judge to do?

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 14:24
@ Purple haze, it's a bit silly to exaggerate and liken a £17 theft from a store to breaking and entering or a violent crime of mugging someone.

It's petty crime and most probably she has turned to petty theft due to desperation.

Desperate people need help, not simply locking up.

The ignorance of some people on here is astounding.

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 14:30
Would people be treating the story differently had the judge taken a different route and made the woman clean Primark's toilets, saved the tax payer £11,000 and the same funds used to benefit underprivileged children? Think people, locking this woman up is lunacy by comparison.

Reply Posted by Daz on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 14:40
Excellent, another thieving scum bag down, if I want my kids to have an extra special Christmas I do an extra shift at work, this tramp got what she deserved, £17 or £17,000 doesn't matter, she is a repeat offender who shouldn't have had kids in the first place.

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 14:54
@ Daz so what should we do Daz? You say she shouldn't have had kids. Trouble is, she did have kids. Should we shoot them? No. Put them into care? Of course care homes are a notorious place to breed our pillars of society aren't they? No, they are not. But care homes are what would happen if all petty criminals were put inside instead of trying to help them.

So what do we do with her kids? Wait for them to grow up to become criminals too? Lock them up too? What happens if they have kids? It goes on and on with no end to solving the problem. It's ignorance to not try to fix it.

Don't you get it? The woman needs help to rehabilitate. It's petty theft. It isn't drugs, or murder, or burglary. It's stealing small things to get by. It's not right to steal, but it's not something that can't be fixed before causing a greater problem in society.

Reply Posted by Daz on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:00
You cannot help 3 decades of scumbagness. It is bred into her and I would imagine her son will grow up being the same, unless he got a lucky break and she did leave him with some decent people at birth.

I see these people every day at my sons school, parents who should never have been allowed to breed in the first place, they are vermin and they are the bane of this town.

She is not stealing things to get by, she is stealing things because she is a lazy scrote too lazy to get off her arse like the rest of us decent people and earn a living, she is a repeat offender, I'm guessing you are related to this Trollope as I can't see why anyone would try and defend the likes of her.

Pety theft my hairy arse crack, this woman is a waste of life.

Reply Posted by donna gurney on Friday December 6 2013 at 17:23
I ave brought her son up to no right from wrong its people like you that don't no all the facts so just do one will ya ya make me sick

Reply Posted by Sez on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:03
Most, not all, people on benefits want everything for free, free money, free school meals now a free Christmas! That woman wants to be ashamed of herself and get a job!

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:10
@ Daz stating on a public forum someone's basic human rights should be removed is only one step removed from Naziism. It is everyone's right to procreate, it is society's responsibility to nurture and ensure we can live harmoniously.

I'm not saying she is a pillar of society, which is proven by her petty crime, but it does not mean her life cannot be transformed.

Everyone has a natural instinct to want something better. They just need showing the best way to achieve better.

Reply Posted by Simon on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:32
Tell you what Richard, why not let her come live with you in your house when she's released. Then you can provide all the rehabilitation she needs seeing as your such an expert.

That would be fantastic. Unless your afraid she might steal something of yours

Reply Posted by Kfc on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:32
Another one for Saddleworth Moor Rehabilitation Centre.

Reply Posted by GRIM on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:33
Another missleading WAB headline.

I thought she'd actually stolen the Alhambra. Shoved it up her top and legged it.
What's this town coming to. Muddy playgrounds, new colleges, rusty frigging combs. Send 'em back. Pot 'oyles.

Reply Posted by R on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:35
It's clear from several comments on here that this woman, doesn't have a small child to care for and doesn't even have her child/young adult living with her. So I'm sorry but she deserves the punishment. She's clearly used her son as an excuse for her addiction to crime and has shown a total lack of respect to not only the law but also to the hard working people of this country!!! Clearly her previous punishments haven't worked!! It's obvious a custodial sentence is required to teach this woman a lesson. I along with many others am a mother of children and I would never ever dream of taking something that's not mine for my kids. I scrimp and scrape like millions of others to ensure they get what they need. One important point is, it's not how much kids get that's important! Maybe this woman would have faired better in her sons eyes had she been a better mother in the first place!!

Reply Posted by sid on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 19:10
Well! About turn, I did agree with Richard, now I know more I agree with R. But when I look at the moneys involved,the amount stolen,versus the amount to be spent on imprisonment, I agree with Richard again. Who,d be a judge? Not me for one.

Reply Posted by Collet on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:37
Every one can relacse now Richard is going to solve all our problems,we will in future be able to go out once more leaving our doors unlocked etc, the judge can send all little thieving scum to there house where he will reform them. Obviously he has never been burgled, if I had my way,to solve the problem I would flog em first time then shoot em second time (simples )

Reply Posted by Gina on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 19:13
Haha collect, relacse???? Oh that's made me laugh,not in a bad way,you,ve really tickled me love.x

Reply Posted by al on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:56
And how much is it going to cost the tax payer to rehabilitate her.

Reply Posted by me on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 15:59
@richard..... how do you think your punishment for theft makes the people gainfully employed to clean the toilets in Primark feel.
Week in week out they turn up for less than many on benefits. .... if only they knew they could break the law and get to keep their loot???
What kind of society would we live in if everyone took things they wanted but couldn't afford??

Reply Posted by bananas on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 16:20
where do they get 11 grand from.. just chop her fingers off and feed her bread and water. she will not steal again. plus its a good deterrent.

Reply Posted by Mick on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 16:25
Very very unlikely that she'll be in jail for xmas. Will probably be released with a tag before then. Hopefully the shock will have taught her a lesson.

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 16:43
Not much point talking to half of you....you're too narrow minded and missing the bigger picture. It's no wonder Barnsley has suffered the problems it does with the general attitude of folk.

@ Collet, you have a habit of judging people and making ridiculous assumptions. For your information, I have previously been burgled twice, but then firstly I'm mentally capable of looking past that to see the real issue. Secondly, burglary isn't the same thing as petty shop lifting. Can't you see the difference?

As for me suggesting she cleans the toilets, it's a simple example not designed to put someone out of work, but to instil the thought that she has to work hard to earn things. A weeks work (but out of prison) to earn £17 to pay off her debt to society and Primark carries a definite lesson. Can't you people see this and think outside the box? Does the imagination stop at primary school?

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 16:53
I mentioned earlier an example of keeping her out of prison, saving the tax payer £11,000 and instead using that same money to help underprivileged children. Not a peep out of anyone. It's all about lynching and condemning everyone.

I read other articles about SUSPECTED rapists....all hung drawn and quartered by the keyboard bashers BEFORE a trial. Should all be ashamed.

It's like you've all not moved out of the dark ages. Quite sad.

Does anyone not think making her repay her debt by making her work is more productive for her and for society and might actually kick start her attitude to start working for a living?

Reply Posted by sid on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 19:16
I'm with you again Richard. But then I think what can be done? She needs to learn a lesson! I just can't get off the fence on this one!

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 16:53
I posted a comment on another Newsweek bout stealin n I said the same she should work the money off n then she might get a liking for workin n sort her self out but I got loads of abuse for it

Reply Posted by Shush on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 17:00
Let's all take the 'it's was for her son' bollocks defence out of this, she had prior offences to her name, why should you get to pick and choose what laws you follow purely for your own reason. I might pedal that one next time my nan says her legs are tired and I bob out and steal her a range rover. This site sums barnsley up perfectly, the eloquent reasonable people who see the issue and morons who defend the cretin who stole. Those in the latter Sort yourselves out, those in the former, carry on.

Reply Posted by Passerby on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 17:30
She's prolly a constant offender

Reply Posted by Dirty Dave on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 17:34
Well I think it's funny. I mean....seriously...do you honestly think her kid is gonna miss her???? Think!!!

Reply Posted by lauren on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 19:36
She shunt be on rob anyway wot example is she settin for her child not a good one

Reply Posted by Miss.N on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 19:47
Richard, yet again you've paid no attention to anything. You comment saying should her child be put into care and what is they grow up to be a criminal but her child is NINETEEN YEARS OLD. He's an adult himself so any argument surrounding him is moot completely.

She committed a crime, she should be punished. End of.

Reply Posted by Richard on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 22:17
I'm sorry, someone posts saying the woman's child is 19? Its not stated anywhere in the news article, so its not necessarily a reliable source or one to be believed. Seems you've read it from someone's comment and believed it immediately. The woman's age would more likely suggest her child is considerably younger than 19.

I think this case but with regard to petty crime of people with young children is a topic that could apply in the future, which is why I said about prison meaning a child could be subject to being put into care. Would it make a difference to you if the crime was the same and she had say a three year old child at home?

Why is everyone so closed minded on this? its very sad.

Reply Posted by ... on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 20:02
Are all the do - gooders forgetting this lady had a suspended sentence already, obviously not learnt her lesson and was probably for theft before what example would that set if the judge said ' well we already gave you chance last time, but sod it lets just slap your hands again' the system is there for a reason and if you ask me using your child as an excuse for crime says it all !!! Get a job, she's obviously fit enough to go 'shopping'

Reply Posted by Dessy on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 20:05
Yeah let her clean the bogs, an she get her sticky fingers on some more stuff on the way out.

Reply Posted by Wing nut on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 20:44
The thing is how many times has she got away with thieving, deserves what she got

Reply Posted by Ken on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 22:25
Ha, you of all people haranguing folk for being supposedly closed minded. Oh the irony.

Reply Posted by TheGuardian on Wednesday December 4 2013 at 23:40
Shoplifting from Primark? Is that how bad we've become? They practically give it away! £17 worth? You'd need a van to take it all away..
Obviously a habitual toe-rag, you know them.. They're out-breeding us. Rapidly.

Reply Posted by B on Thursday December 5 2013 at 00:20
Excuse me Richard I'm the one who said he was 19 and I know this family very well so don't say my comments are believable cos they are damn right true. No it doesn't state her sons age but from what I have read with people feeling sorry for her I felt the need to put the facts to the story right and let people know she doesn't have custody of said son as he is now old enough to look after himself so using him as an excuse to steal is unbelievable.

Reply Posted by saf on Thursday December 5 2013 at 10:37
@Richard I bet you love the sound of your own voice. What a tool. Do you think judges don't have an option to make offenders work to pay off the debt to society? Its called community service, offenders are given hours that they have to work off. However when said theif/offender is already on a suspended prison sentence then things are beyond that avenue.
Also having been brought up in care after losing my parents at an early age (8yrs old) I can tell you that being brought up in children's home

Reply Posted by saf on Thursday December 5 2013 at 10:55
^^ As I was saying I was raised in Rockingham St children's home and I don't steal. I do however despise people that use being brought up in care as a reason/excuse for the behaviour of themselves or others. Kids in care are at a disadvantage but still have a choice to be good or bad, I was often asked if I wanted to "come up town lifting" but like others had the gumption to turn such a great offer Down! @Richard you sir are why society is as it is! Another do-gooder!

Reply Posted by Kelly on Thursday December 5 2013 at 13:15
@Richard,

Finally someone who speaks sense.
3 Years ago, I would have agreed with half of the morons on here. I have been educated since then and now see the bigger picture.
The inequalities in society are the reasons why people in desperate situations exercise desperate actions.
What is prison going to do for this lady? She will come out and more than likely re offend, because she has not been rehabilitated.
Everybody saying go get a job. Yes there are jobs available, if someone truly wants to work, but not everybody has had the same opportunities in lie. The chances are this lady will not have appropriate clothing to attend an interview (which will be a cross against her), she probably doesn't know how to speak in an interview (another cross against her), and probably isn't very well educated due to her upbringing. Not everybody has had an upbringing where their school attendance has been great, resulting in a poor education, not everyone has had breakfast before school (studies show that this improves intellectual ability) and been brought up in a loving, nurturing environment, promoting confidence and independence.
Stop judging and assuming that everyone can just walk into a job, sometimes it is not that simple.
In relation to the shoplifting, I agree with Richard, an alternative needs to be explored before we go banging everyone up. Suspended sentence or not.
Please go and do some research before making judgements and assumptions and make an educated informed decision as opposed to a lot of the tripe wrote on this post.

Reply Posted by mr c on Thursday December 5 2013 at 14:15
Has the headline been written by the daily mail. A WOMAN has been jailed for 14 weeks - for trying to make her son's Christmas 'a bit better'.she got jailed for stealing.i can remember the miners strike and the christmas of 84 when we (i have 3 other siblings) didn't get much cos my dad being a miner had no income but made good use of the little money he did save and ive no doubt him and my mam would have loved to given us more but that didn't give them the need to start shoplifting.an i reckon the womans son would have had a better christmas if she had been at home with him rather than in prison.

Reply Posted by Dessy on Thursday December 5 2013 at 14:20
So you don' t want to lock persistent thieves up then eh? The thousands of shoplifters and drug addicts funding their filthy habit simply just need to be rehabilitated. I suppose the same could be said about most criminals don't we jail those either? I'd just like to know how this magic rehabilitation works it sounds marvelous. I'd just like to add, people in court make all kinds of cock and bull stories up to try and get off with it. I think some people are falling for a whopper here.

Reply Posted by Ken on Thursday December 5 2013 at 15:01
Richard seems to have changed his tune. He's usually the leader of the hang all scrotes brigade. Indeed his posts are usually only noteworthy for there lack of empathy. I kind of get some people might need to steal to survive these days, but I'm sure it's nothing to do with his beloved tory government.

Reply Posted by saf on Thursday December 5 2013 at 15:10
@Dessy, nice one mate I'm in total agreement. Too many dogooder know nowt's.

Reply Posted by Ken on Thursday December 5 2013 at 16:24
And there we have it.Now then Richard you were saying?

Reply Posted by Emma pell on Thursday December 5 2013 at 17:03
Hallelujah someone else who knows what has really happened, well said lynn!! Xxxx

Reply Posted by ## on Thursday December 5 2013 at 17:18
" Geez you people have no idea"
"The ignorance of some people on here is astounding"

Reply Posted by Richard O' Toole on Thursday December 5 2013 at 17:37
#whatatool

Reply Posted by Emma pell on Thursday December 5 2013 at 17:52
You know what's making me mad the most, is the fact that half of the people commenting do not know the woman who stole, or her family, so you have no idea what the full story is, so should therefore keep your noses out. It isn't the first time she had shoplitfed and will definitely not be the last, she was on a suspended sentance cos she has been at it years, so therefore deserves to be in prison! That's hard to say about someone in my family but it is true. And as for her son, he is 19 and has grown up under the care of his nan for as long as he remembers cos she hasn't been there for him, so this bull crap story that she has been pinching for christmas prezzies for him is ridiculous!! She doesn't see him or have anything to do with him at all cos he doesn't want to know!! So when you have all done jumping to conclusions and thinking you know it all, shut ya mouths cos there are people involved in this that are going through a hard time!!! Keep your opinions to yourself.just a Bunch of ignorant people!!!

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Thursday December 5 2013 at 18:27
Emma@ You need to have a word with WAB for running the story.This is a public forum for people to comment on..Now you need to button it,ignorant person..

Reply Posted by Emma pell on Thursday December 5 2013 at 18:35
I need to button it? Says the idiot sat commenting on something that they do not know much about, only from what they have read on here. Do yourself a favour and go find something better to do with your time than to bitch on a news site!!

Reply Posted by Ben on Thursday December 5 2013 at 18:44
You're absolutely right Emma., and there is nobody on WAB more ignorant than kilkenny

Reply Posted by Emma on Thursday December 5 2013 at 18:50
Thankyou ben, glad some people understand, others just jump to conclusions and think they know everything without hearing the right story and thinking about people's feelings. Her poor son has to put up with all this, even if he doesn't see her or have anything to do with her, he still has feelings, people need to keep this in mind x

Reply Posted by Kilkenny on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:30
Theiving scratter.dog mess..scumbag!

Reply Posted by bar bar on Thursday December 5 2013 at 21:13
no wonder stores are struggling wi theivin gets like her

Reply Posted by Luther the Avenger on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:05
Jail for stealing £17 worth of stuff, but those who steal millions still walk free. And in some cases are given knighthoods and TV specials.

Reply Posted by barryfatknacker on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:08
WOT A PITY SHIL BE ART NEXT WEEK WI TAG ON , DOING IT ALL AGAIN ...

Reply Posted by anon on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:14
Shes done it once shes done it again she didnt learn the first time and she will probably theif again when shes out I say she deserves whats happened to her and hope she serves the full time shes got even if she pinched from pound land id send her down

Reply Posted by mk on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:18
it makes me laugh hw this mum has been seht to jail all for 17 chuffin quid. wen there's ppl art there hu dus more seious crimes n get spared jail!! its absolutely ridiculous! !!! tht poor boy!!

Reply Posted by noname on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:24
Really...got what was coming to her! Doesn't say how old her son is but I'm pretty sure you can't get toys in Primark and if he's old enough to be bothered about clothes then I'm positive he won't be that fussed over ones from there over seeing his mum at Christmas...she knew the consequences of re-offending and did it anyway...silly woman with a rubbish excuse we all like to make things better for our kids but that isn't the way to do it!

Reply Posted by Bobby on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:25
I feel sorry for her she must have been desperate , I know my self how hard I have found it this year to pay for Christmas and I am a working family .

Reply Posted by JJ on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:25
Her choice to steal knowing she could be caught stop em getting legal aid for persistent offending thinking a solicitor will get em off every time .
Everyone one else manages without nicking even if it means asking hallem fm for a toy for their kids is better than nicking

Reply Posted by dedatodd on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:28
I am afraid this reflects more on the 'ladies' intelligence than the law! By the sounds if it this isn't a first offence and £17 or £1.7 million she has had warnings and if she cant take the chances obviously handed to her then unlucky! I am not happy that the cost to keep her locked up is high but we cannot use jail as a deterrent and then because of the 'amount' decided not to use it.
I am also furious that 'bankers' et al have yet to face any (if at all ) charges but that is the society we live in, and only we can change that!

Reply Posted by emma pell on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:38
You people whos commented today need to read above what i wrote, her kid is 19 and she hasnt had custody of him for 17 years. His nan has brough him up! So the fact she has lied about stealing for him is disgusting cos she has naff all to do with him, read all the comments above, she has always been a thief, will nevee change, so she hasnt been sent to prison over £17, she was on a suspended prison sentance for getting caught 2 months before now, so deserves to do the time x

Reply Posted by Emma pell on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:43
That's nice mate, good for you!

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:43
Take it up with WAB emma pell@ your getting BBOOORRRRRIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!

Reply Posted by mumof3 on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:43
The judge could of extended her suspended sentence tht.poor boy I personally dunt agree with theft however I would go to any length shld i not be Able to provide for my bbys crimbo....

Reply Posted by LOL on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:48
I can read now. I am going to do one of those NVQ thingies in Equality and Diversity.

Reply Posted by Emma pell on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:49
Am i talking to you though? NO! So do one, don't read what i put, i am just telling the truth about this story to the people who have only just seen it, and what the hell do you think we are barnsley are going to do? They are just journalists who have wrote about the info they know, the lies this woman told i court, not the actual truth, they can't do anything about it!! If you don't like what i write then ignore it, cos this story is nothing to do with you!!

Reply Posted by Emma pell on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:51
I agree for him been the prat of the year!! Nowt but a keyboard warrior!!!

Reply Posted by thedonoflunchtime on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:56
Yeah but doesnt everyone in barnsley go "art graftin" and the biggest thief is the grammar burglar who is a serial offender stealing all you lots ability to speak or write correctly

Reply Posted by Steve on Friday December 6 2013 at 08:56
Theres some fickle folk around, folk who would go straight to the police if they where robbed of £17, theft is theft and of she has done it before and been warned she deserves everyting she gets, she should have got longer!, and Kelly who psted the first comment obviously does not understand that she didnt make a mistake, she intended to do it.

Reply Posted by Emma pell on Friday December 6 2013 at 09:04
Hahahaha you know naff all about me mate, i bloody work!!! Have done since i was 13 i have never signed on in my life! Unlike you sat on here all making your mouth, been a arrogant prat! Your not even from barnsley anyway are you? LOSER!

Reply Posted by LOSER KILKENNY on Friday December 6 2013 at 09:09
Emma Pell@ you are correct.kilkenny left for London has family disowned her/him.brought shame to the family.now slates us all from Barnsley for the heartache and pain and suffering brought upon her family..The rumour was transgender,,family couldn't cope as parents were very Victorian and ashamed in them days!

Reply Posted by becky on Friday December 6 2013 at 09:33
Shes probly a serial thieve thats why shes banged up deserves all she gets every1 on else struggles at xmas she probly spends benifit on booze cigs and drugs thats why shes skint

Reply Posted by Jase on Friday December 6 2013 at 09:35
This is what you get from a life on benefits & no real work creation

Reply Posted by joe on Friday December 6 2013 at 10:03
spot on simon, and Richard u talk a load a crap. Clean primark toilets and then get rewarded the £17 goodies she stole, yeh having a laugh aren't ya, pmsl we'l all do it, she'll rob summat whilst cleaning toilets, cos theyl only av staff bogs in primark

Reply Posted by Ben on Friday December 6 2013 at 10:08
@kilkenny why do you come on here slating the town and the people? Is there any point to it, or do you just like arguing and abusing people on public forums?

Reply Posted by correct on Friday December 6 2013 at 10:14
Ben@ Here here,keeps slating me for been a dole dosser.tracksuit wearer,smoker piss head,Little known I work full time.don,t smoke or wear trackies..sad person Kilkenny!

Reply Posted by Emma on Friday December 6 2013 at 11:12
Good. Serves her right. Should get a job like everyone else! Scum. My mam has two kids, ya don't see her running around town stealing. She works for a living to provide!!!!

Reply Posted by Jodie. on Friday December 6 2013 at 13:48
Does seem harsh but if she was already on a suspended sentence what had she done before! Silly silly, sure your boy will have the best Christmas without you!!! :(

Reply Posted by lauren on Friday December 6 2013 at 14:42
Kilkenny is a horrible person n is a keyboard warrior who gets a kick out ov hurtin peoples feelings for nothin

Reply Posted by lmd on Friday December 6 2013 at 15:59
Well I agree they should be other routes that could have been explored. I have a son whom was going down the wrong path and he was out with so called friends and those friends was caught stealing alcohol a few times before my son started to hang around so because they was known when my son started to hang around with them he stole which I was fuming with they took my son to court and he got 12 months in a youth offenders while the others are still walking the streets and they get away with everything. My son had never been in trouble before and the judge said he was making an example of him. But I must say my son has learnt but at the expense of tax payers which I myself am one of those. But if they would do the same to all maybe it might learn the younger befor they get older and get in to the rut they seem not to be able get out of.

Reply Posted by Bill on Friday December 6 2013 at 21:52
So she should be made to clean the toilets at Primark!? And that's thinking outside the box?! No it's something an 8 year old would come up with. Is this clown for real? The Alan partridge of WAB.

Reply Posted by Richard on Friday December 6 2013 at 22:01
@Bill sould have said toilets at Harrods FOOL

Reply Posted by saf on Saturday December 7 2013 at 01:41
@Richard your the fool/tool here, childish suggestions,ideas of no merit and a disregard/total dismissal of anything put forward by anyone else.
Outstanding contribution bottom feeder!

Reply Posted by .... on Saturday December 7 2013 at 07:26
Ha ha Saf, got him in a nutshell. What a tool