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Polish Cage Fighter Fined

Wednesday November 27 2013


Barnsley Magistrates' Court Barnsley Magistrates' Court


A POLISH cage fighter has been fined £200 - after being found living in his car.

Adrian Pociecha, 35, had to be kept in police cells overnight after being found in a Volkswagen in Wombwell.

Jayne Ormrod, prosecuting, told Barnsley Magistrates' Court Pociecha had no insurance, held a provisional UK driving licence and was in the car unsupervised.

Pociecha, who was not represented by a solicitor, said he was living in his car because he had no friends he could stay with.

He said he earned about £200 every time he fought.

Pociecha admitted having no insurance and driving otherwise in accordance with a licence.

He was freed from custody and was warned even parking the car at the side of the road without insurance would lead to him appearing in court again.

Pociecha, of no fixed address, was ordered to pay £85 in costs and a £20 victim surcharge.

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Reply Posted by poncho on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 11:41
Cage fighter.Does that mean he lived in a cage and was fighting to get out..

Reply Posted by Kfc on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 11:46
Extradite him he his a burden on society.

Reply Posted by Haha on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 11:55
Give him a house like they do all the other illegals !! They are better looked after than out own people !! And soldiers are living on the streets it's a disgrace !! They don't like it they know where the door is

Reply Posted by You idiot on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 15:25
Well evidently they're not looked after more than 'our own people' based on this lad being homeless.

Have a word with yourself you ignorant, childish bigot.

Reply Posted by rio on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 11:56
He has no money to stay anywhere so they make him pay £85??

Reply Posted by dog on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:04
he got no money,send him home

Reply Posted by pfft on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:06
Nice to read plenty of well informed educated response to this news article. Haha, who says he is illegally in the UK?

Reply Posted by Mick on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:13
Are there a lot of vacancies for cage fighters in Wombwell?

Reply Posted by paul on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:18
mick..i don't think there is many jobs for cage fighters,but plenty of people who need to be caged..

Reply Posted by king louis on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:19
his car should be compounded until insurance is obtained and a legally qualified driver collects it... or its crushed. In January 2014 and we are going to have lots of these situations when the open door policy for Romania comes into effect. We need a workable policy to be set up that is fair and equal to all

Reply Posted by anon on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:19
no home no friends and no legal job why ever is he here in the uk time the government got out of the EU

Reply Posted by pfft on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:25
@kinglouis - Yes we may need a workable policy to deal with uninsured drivers, but I dare say plenty of people are driving uninsured due to them having to live in poverty. Its more important that policy makers address the issues that give rise to people having to do things such as drive without insurance. If the man can't afford rent, he can't afford the insurance either or the fine.
People ought to remember that there are lots of people on the roads without insurance and others who drink drive or drive without a licence for various reasons. This man's nationality shouldn't come into it! Why is the fact that he is Polish even emphasized here?

Reply Posted by Bob on Friday November 29 2013 at 21:20
If you have a car you're not living in poverty!

Reply Posted by james on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:28
pfft..nobody is replying to you,as you are the only one with your tongue up the polish arse,he don,t work he got no home,no money,sent him home and you go with him..

Reply Posted by peter on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:28
Here here james

Reply Posted by Sid on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:32
Yes uninsured,anybody else would have the car compounded.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 19:56
IMPOUNDED SID, IMPOUNDED!

Reply Posted by sid on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 19:58
Its a Sid impersonator STEVEO.

Reply Posted by pfft on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:39
Yeah that what I'm doing James! You got me clever clogs! maybe I should be more like you and use these ,,,,, instead of these'''''. Pointless trying to have a decent discussion on here. I was responding appropriately with my opinion and I am more than prepared to have these challenged! Not from the likes of you though, who can't even compose a decent response. People like you make me laugh! your opinions are based on nothing other than tit bits that you overheard from someone more intelligent that you or the daily star. Why don't you tell me how much Polish immigrants get in benefits and how they are coming over stealing all our jobs!

Reply Posted by james on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:59
Yes it is pointless.pointless him being here,my opinion and I don't listen to anybody else..if he worked then fair enough,he no work no home no money then go home,

Reply Posted by :) on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:40
Kick them art thats what I say

Reply Posted by bananas on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:45
well said james.

Reply Posted by stevo2 on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 12:50
What, all the homeless cagefighters?

Reply Posted by Nj on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 13:11
Ashamed to be from barnsley with some moronic comments on here, wish people would get over nationalities and focus on us as a race. Anyone on the street deserves help, be that Polish, English or anyone else for that matter. How exactly is this man sponging of us if he lives in a car? He isn't at all. Most of the spongers here are English anyway, take it none of you saw the report last month about how foreigners are actually contributing to out economy than taking from us? Didn't think so. All the big places in the world are multi cultural, why not make a statement and help barnsley thrive instead of this silly single minded approach? But hey, I'm sure all I'll get is abuse for even contemplating the idea of helping someone who's not from 'tarn'

Reply Posted by James on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 13:19
Nj,"ashamed to be form Barnsley" Well do one.nobody makes you stay!

Reply Posted by Janet on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 13:26
Hi Nj - no abuse from me. I'd like to see a few of these commenters be so brave as to set off to a foreign country and try to live off only their wits/fists.

Reply Posted by ken on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 13:58
Why the hell did he come to this country,no job or home or any money?

Reply Posted by dean on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 14:09
chances are,if you'd no money,we're homeless and just commited a crime you'd be deported back home.This country cant afford to keep taking people in who cant look after themselves.
Allowing people to come here to live off their wits/fists is pathetic.

Reply Posted by HERE on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 14:12
well said dean,sould be deported if homeless according to mr Cameron,

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 20:03
hahahahah, I have heard it ALL now.

Of course they are contributing to our economy, the fat cat bosses are the big winners from exploiting cheaper Eastern European labour.

It is now estimated that for every pound earned by an immigrant worker some 27p goes back to their respective home countries, so tell me how the HELL can immigration and immigrant workers be "good for our economy"?

Reply Posted by bec on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 13:16
Poor Guy. ye fair enuf the guy doesn't work and he's Polish he is entitled to come to the UK just like the Brits holiday abroad its only same.... he is still a human being. ppl nowadays are racist there is no need. if u went to doctors or hospital an the doc/nurse treating u was polish or pakistani you wouldn't refuse it wud ya.

Reply Posted by Janet on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 13:20
And if he weren't Polish? Change the name to Jack Jones and half the arguments here disappear - then he's just an ordinary bloke down on his luck. Which could be any one of us.
He does need to find a better place to park his car and get it sorned. Though with winter only just upon us he would be at severe risk.
He ought to be offered a flight home so at least he could be with family.

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 13:50
irrespective of the rights and wrongs of this case, there's one thing that I can say, why on earth would anyone go to a foreign country without having work or a home to go to in the first place.
Mr Pociecha should have looked on the EURES website, there are 600,000 uk vacancies on there.

Alternatively, he should have gone to a Polish recruitment agency back home as they offer plenty of vacancies in out town such as Asos and Symphony.

With regards to the car he was driving, there are a few of the Polish lads at work who don't have proper licences and insurance to drive on the UK roads, the Police should be actively stopping foreign drivers (same as the French Police do) and checking if their paperwork is in order, but they don't as they have been told NOT to stop foreign drivers by fear of being labelled Racist (what a load of bollocks!) by the politically correct namby pamby chief inspectors.

Reply Posted by carl on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 15:07
Cagefighter is such an antiquated term, MMA competitor would have been a much better phrase to use.

Reply Posted by Nikki on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 15:38
he had a job when he came here and lost it about 3 months ago, so he paid tax and doesn't claim anything from anywhere

Reply Posted by Fred on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 19:53
Nikki. At last some facts.

None of the muppets on here will care, they can't see past the word 'polish'

Reply Posted by crazy dave on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 20:08
Used to use MR SHEEN but now use PLEDGE cos its cheaper, just like them POLSKIS.

Reply Posted by Liam bowman on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 16:23
Like how you erased my comments about spending money on police dealing with peados and this government instead of people who are in situations they carnt help being in this is exactly why so many paedophiles are left to grow into monsters tht get hardly any punishment what so ever for what they do people sweepin. It under the carpet

Reply Posted by Bob on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 19:15
Poland is in the EU you idiots, therefore he is not an immigrant in much the same way as anybody from here could go and live in Poland if they wanted to. So there are no "papers" for the police to check. And clearly the police HAVE interacted with the guy, as he's been in court!

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 20:06
IMMIGRANT :

noun

noun: immigrant; plural noun: immigrants

a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
"they found it difficult to expel illegal immigrants"

synonyms: newcomer, settler, incomer, new arrival, migrant, emigrant.

Nuff said Bobby B?


Reply Posted by STEVO on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 20:04
Why on earth would he want to come to Barnsley. It's a shit hole!

Reply Posted by crazy dave on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 20:10
r tha r8 lad, full of bleedin kosovans

Reply Posted by Monica on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 20:37
I would like to let you all know, that Mr Pociecha has worked hard for the last few years in one of the factories. He was paying a decent amount of tax and insurance out of his wage, worked overtimes, where many people just cant be asked. He did not want to rely on British government in respect of benefits and other help, so decided to alive a difficult financial situation in his own car! So respect each other, especially a man who did not have anywhere to go and act like humans, not animals. I am sure, if he could chose somewhere else, he would never chose Barnsley to live in !

Reply Posted by mm on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 20:40
He sould have enough for a flight home then!

Reply Posted by Kfc on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 20:38
Good lets hope he goes back to Poland

Reply Posted by pffft on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 21:55
@Monica Well said! Your wasting your breath in writing to the majority of these people who write negative comments ! Their opinions are a reflection of their intelligence. Not everyone thinks like these people there are plenty of positive supportive comments on here as well

Reply Posted by Monika on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 22:45
I am Polish, and I am not going to hide that. Would you like me to show you my wage slip? So please do not be rude, and do not show your arrogance, as you were brought up on the street ! People do win and fail...unfortunately this guy failed in this country...Nothing can ever go right in life ! I think 80% of you should know that, because we are in Barnsley !

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Sunday December 1 2013 at 12:38
Monika, so you are Polish and are wanting to show us your wage slip ?
Tell me Monika, did you just wake up one morning and think " ooh i'll get a plane over to England and see what's happening over there"?
No you came for one thing and one thing only, money, and a damn site more money that you could ever wish to earn back in Poland.

We both know this, and before you give me the old "you are being racist" line, then don't bother because that shit doesn't wash with me.

Reply Posted by Graham on Sunday December 1 2013 at 13:19
Monika. I live and was born in Barnsley.I have been lucky to work all my working life.I was earning around £9 hour plus bonuses 10 years ago,The company started employing foreign workers from agencies on less than half what I was earning.Then gradually we were treated like robots to grind us down,all breaks were timed,work was monitored to rule.toilet breaks monitored,it became a very bad environment were going to work became unbareable.it was a chioce the top earners could have there contracts bought out.70% accepted. And I am not Racist! The problems with coming into UK. The companies now exploit all foreign workers which has a knock on effect to the local workers..Wages will never be above average so you are struggling live comfortably,Agencies taking the cream,Zero hours.i do understand the immigrants want a better life and the wages are a lot better in the UK.But the good days and all the good wages are a thing of the past..I bought my own home had a nice car and holidays every year.i feel for the young generaration as there have very little chance to get on the housing market because the wages will not allow them..

Reply Posted by Graham on Sunday December 1 2013 at 13:38
Sorry forgot to mention,not all were Foreign workers,some local workers but only through an agency.I remember near xmas one year all the agency lads were laid of 2 days before factory closed for xmas.some were in tears has there were promised contracts and holiday pay over xmas.Back to work JAN and more agency workers..

Reply Posted by Bob on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 22:49
What makes me laugh is that half of the morons on here from "tarn" don't work, and so don't contribute. It's no wonder that the rest of the country thinks that Barnsley is a joke! I think that before they come on here "having a go", half the people need to learn how to spell!

Reply Posted by NJ on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 23:10
James - working on my way out, some folk are just so single minded it's unreal, maybe he had a job, probably contributed more than half of the natives here anyway and lost his job? Doesn't matter where you're from, this guy needs looking after, I agree whole heatedly that if they are here illegally then yeah sure they should be sent back, but people don't just move countries off no reason, if you could support your family by moving to Poland would you? But whatever, I'm sure I'll just get the 'this is England' response. The thing that makes me laugh is it's the same people who hate Germans because of 'the war' in which the nazis acted on the statements you're making. But that could be a little complex for most of Yorkshire. Thanks Janet, it's comforting to know I'm not the only person who still cares about the human race rather than 'the English' one

Reply Posted by james on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 23:16
NJ Your missing the point,it is not about me moving to Poland,,The facts are what the TORY leader has stated..Homeless immigrants to be sent home,,nothing to do with illegal..

Reply Posted by NJ on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 23:19
So because David Cameron says something that makes it fair?

Fantastic response James. I'm a little staggered that someone from barnsley agrees with a conservative if I'm honest. Not like the conservatives ever made any wrong decisions is it?

Reply Posted by james on Wednesday November 27 2013 at 23:23
I,m not for the tories and never will be,but I am all for a cap on immigration,enough is enough,far too many,schools and doctors nhs housing all bursting at the seams,no work then sent them home,

Reply Posted by NJ is a clown on Thursday November 28 2013 at 11:20
Why are you staggered that someone from Barnsley agrees with a Tory NJ. Will you get struck down if you agree with a tory, and that decision might be a good one.

Jeez, you're one of the many from Barnsley who keep voting Labour because you can't handle change. Take your whippet for a walk and don't come back.

Reply Posted by Dave Moncrief on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:24
Got to agree james, enough is enough.

Reply Posted by Mad Bad & Dangerous to know on Thursday November 28 2013 at 08:08
Funny, noboby was telling Polish airmen, soilders & seaman to "Go Back Home" during the war. Europe is a BIG place it doesn't begin & end at Barnsley Borough boundaries, give it a rest the guy needs a break

Reply Posted by GRIM on Thursday November 28 2013 at 08:54
People keep saying 'charity begins' at home. Well, actually it all depends on who the individual choses to give to.
I chose to give some of my money to a homeless fella I always see. I don't give to charities, I give to him. He is also not originally from this country. He's fallen on hard times, like so many of us do and so many of us are very near to.

Mad Bad & Dangerous is right. At the end of the the second world war, everyone had empathy for those in European countries that the fascists targeted and killed. We are always talking about the courage of our soldiers and rightly so, but now so many in this town are turning to those opinions of the far-right, as if they offer real answers to this town's economic situation. They don't (and I'm not saying any of the main three parties do either).

I also praise what Monica says. The man was too proud to take from the system and prefered to suffer in his own care, after taking one of thise jobs that some of us in our own town turn our noses up at.

People should be ashamed of those fascisistic opinions they have. They do nothing but hurt people. Yet, as soon as it is them that is targeted, they're the first to complain.

Yes, those vile people that are the government should be doing more for it's own, and we should never turn a blind eye at those that sufferin, are less well off or that have been misstreated and hurt by the system.

And this page should know better than to start a story with someone's ethnicity or job, when it has no relevance.
If people cared to look back into their familiy histories, they'd realise that many of us 'native' Britons' family-lines come from overseas

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Sunday December 1 2013 at 13:25
GRIM you bandy the terms Fascist and Racist around far too much for my liking and I doubt you actually know what the term Fascist means.

There is no "racism" when we speak of Eastern European immigrants, they are all of white European origin so how can one be deemed racist when speaking of said eastern Europeans?

Tis the politically correct namby pamby idiots such as yourself and Hoyland Red that deems speaking of eastern Europeans racist and the eastern Europeans themselves when they hear something that they do not like.

Reply Posted by lauren on Thursday November 28 2013 at 12:59
Am glad I bring both my children up properly to grow as a proper lady n gentleman to respect other despite color language or country u should be ashamed of urselfs goin on bout polish scrounging need to take a good look at our own first chuff me there's that many ENGLISH lazy benefit scroungers in barnsley it's unbelievable

Reply Posted by lauren on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:03
And before any one starts notching I am Barnsley born and bred but that doesn't mean that people from other country's need a chance or a second chance at life

Reply Posted by june on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:15
Lauren@ Everybody is allowed to comment and it does not mean there are Racist or bad people...You sould a lovely kind hearted person Lauran.Why don't you open your home up to the Poor immigrants. It will make you happy and maybe get to meet the QUEEN.for your charity work..

Reply Posted by june on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:16
"sound not sould"

Reply Posted by LARRY on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:52
Well said June..enough is enough!

Reply Posted by lauren on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:04
*Bitchin not notchin

Reply Posted by dedatodd on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:10
This story typifies just what the 'Tories' are doing, pander to the fears of the minority about 'immigration' and ignoring the fact that as far as immigrants go they are less likely to claim benefits and as for paying taxes on wages earned by the 'foreigners' I think the government is up! They have moved the focus, and we the people have allowed them, from the real issues like pensions, Austerity, banks, power companies, big business profits and their own wages / pensions. So like fools we argue amongst ourselves over non issues rather than the real ones.
Wake up !

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:27
Smoke and mirrors, right wing sensationalist propaganda is more like it.

While ever the Sun is still being printed their readers believe everything in their is the truth, the absolute truth and nothing but the truth.

Brainwashed idiots!

Reply Posted by dedatodd on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:37
I wish I could say it was just the 'red tops' spouting nonsense, we get the BBC et al giving air time to this sensationalist drivel and then give us all pictures of the new royal baby ! Or some other meaningless news story to keep the masses smiling

Reply Posted by STEVEO on Thursday November 28 2013 at 15:50
I CONCUR!

But yet idiots like Richard tell us the BBC are not Tory, they can televise their inane drivel but fail to televise the "real" stuff that goes on her in the UK like the Anonymous protest in Trafalgar Square attended by 100,000 people which brought London to a standstill.
Or, the protest at the Tory party conference in Manchester where 50,000 people attended to protest against the AUSTERITY cuts.

Richard, can you tell me again that the Tories don't control the media / BBC please, I could do with a good laugh.


Reply Posted by dedatodd on Friday November 29 2013 at 07:57
But the royal baby is pretty........... queue the fawning masses......

Until we have another viable political party willing to take decisions / make policies for the next 20 / 30 / 40 years rather than for the next general election or we have the 'None of the Above' option on the ballot paper we will be dealing with this crap for the next X generations

Reply Posted by lauren on Thursday November 28 2013 at 13:59
June@ oh shut u silly woman. How old are you like. Guna start throwing stones in the playground. Like you've jus said in ur own comment EVERYBODY IS ALLOWED TO COMMENT so stop tryin to cause arguments flamin keyboard warrior does mi head in for fact I don't say the same as every one else well tough my opinions are different does mean any thing

Reply Posted by Jim lad on Friday November 29 2013 at 08:42
Can we please change the name of this site from we are Barnsley to we are backwards
I try to avoid reading comments on here as they are all just to predictable . This town is a laughing stock to outsiders because of these ill informed views . And what's sad is that these views are ingrained and will continue as they are passed onto people's kids . How depressing

Reply Posted by Hannah on Friday November 29 2013 at 08:50
This poor guy is homeless, I'd be living in my car too. Making money off the least fortunate is disgusting! Go find a real criminal

Reply Posted by Me, me and just me on Friday November 29 2013 at 09:27
How do we know this guy wasn't in the uk on a working visa and lost his job ??
My neighbour was polish he came over after the the Second World War worked in a mine until he retired paid tax pain insurance and paid for his pension. He paid into the system a lot more than some of the useless non working scrounging parasites benefit cheats around here

Reply Posted by pffft on Friday November 29 2013 at 21:39
@Jim lad, best comment on here !!

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Saturday November 30 2013 at 12:51
I cannot believe the thick ****** on this thread that suggested he should be extradited. Yeah I am sure the UK Border Agency will be putting him on the next plane to Warsaw.

We Are Barnsley = We Are Backward

Reply Posted by wab on Saturday November 30 2013 at 12:54
WE ARE BARNSLEY STAYING..Kilkenny changing name to HAYLEY CROPPER..jog on

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Saturday November 30 2013 at 13:28
We Are Barnsley = We are Backward

Reply Posted by Fred on Saturday November 30 2013 at 21:35
That's why you spend so much time on here isn't kenny?

Backward forum (in your opinion) Backward kilkenny

Reply Posted by kilkenny on Sunday December 1 2013 at 23:08
@Graham - I am afraid that is the marketplace mate. Nearly all Anglo- American businesses are profit driven. When they need unskilled labour they will pay the lowest price possible for it so shareholders get the biggest profits. The only way out is to retrain and get a position where there are more jobs than jobseekers. I do realise retraining is difficult when you have a mortgage to pay and bills too x

Reply Posted by june on Sunday December 1 2013 at 23:18
As a factory worker 30 years ago,we had to clock in,had our breaks timed,and had to sew/cut whatever department you were on,to a time and motion speed. The pay was good in some departments,poor in others. Our holidays had to be taken when the factory closed . I'm not being sarcy here,but are things at Asos much worse than that? One thing though,we did have contracts and more importantly, a union.