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Residents Pulling Funds Together For Faster Internet

Thursday November 14 2013


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RESIDENTS are pulling together to raise money for faster broadband - after BT said it wasn't financially viable for them to provide.

People living on the Rose Hill and Water Royd estates in Dodworth have been suffering with slow internet which makes downloading and watching films impossible.

John Clapham, of Low Pasture Close, has had internet with BT since 2004 and said it's only marginally improved during that time.

He started a campaign and has asked BT numerous times to install a street cabinet with fibre optic cables to improve the speed but he was eventually told by BT it wasn't financially viable.

"If I lived 100 metres up the road I'd get superfast broadband," he said.

"We pay the same as people who get faster internet, and we all pay a premium on our phone bill for broadband improvements but we're still having to fund our own broadband improvements. I think it's disgusting."

John, 44, was initially told the street cabinet and cabling would cost £22,000, but said BT had agreed to contribute £14,650 and the council would pay £3,662 - leaving the residents to find £10,988.

Radio DJ Simon Hirst, who lives on the Rose Hill estate, has had broadband since 2000 and said slow speeds often interfered with his work and prohibited him from sending and receiving large files he may need for his show.

He added: "It doesn't allow you to watch anything on things like YouTube, it just buffers.

"It's always been bad, but BT just won't upgrade it."

A spokesman said BT isn't under any legal obligation to provide broadband in the way they're obligated to provide a phone service.

He said: "To bring higher speed broadband to this community an extremely complex underground network rearrangement is required as the technology put in place decades ago didn't take into account the invention of broadband.

"The underground cabling from the exchange will be rearranged enabling engineers to install a copper and a fibre street cabinet which will give almost all the residents superfast broadband speeds.

"The costs to do this work are not commercially viable, however we have worked with the local community and agreed to cover a substantial amount of the costs but have asked the local community to also contribute.

"On a per household basis this proposal will be very good value for money and transform the way residents can use the internet."

About 70 people from the Water Royd and Rose Hill estates attended a meeting at Station Road WMC on November 10.

The attendees agreed they would be willing to pay £50 per household and street representatives were appointed to ask others in their neighbourhoods.

Of the 350 houses affected, 69 households have pledged to contribute £50 and of those, 15 said they would contribute up to £100.

John said he was hoping to have all the money collected by December 1, allowing him to instruct BT to begin the upgrade, which involves installing a street cabinet with fibre optic cables.

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Reply Posted by Louise on Thursday November 14 2013 at 16:51
Will you recieve a share in profits from future broadband charges. ? Surely overtime the cost of installation will turn a profit. ??

Reply Posted by mic on Thursday November 14 2013 at 16:56
£22,000 -£14,650 -£3,662 =£3688 so why have the residents to find £10,000? Is Barnsley council doing the adding up n councilors pocketing the difference?

Reply Posted by Den on Thursday November 14 2013 at 19:46
There is a meeting sunday12pm Dodworth club if you want to ask.

Reply Posted by Kc on Thursday November 14 2013 at 21:27
The above article is incorrect re the numbers. The numbers are total cost £14650.80 BMBC contribution £3662.70 residents to find £10988.10 Hope this clarifies. Ps Jon and his team are doing a brilliant job. Power to the People!!!! As Wolfy would say!!!

Reply Posted by Jon Clapham on Thursday November 14 2013 at 23:01
Thanks Kc. The Chronicle managed to get the numbers mixed up and that's where this article originates. The original BT bill was £22k which they then reduced ~30% leaving £14,650.80 as reported by Kc. BMBC will pay 25% and residents need to find £10,988.10. All this money goes to BT - not the council. We are paying for a BT infrastructure upgrade. I've been dealing with BT for over 18 months and quite simply if we don't pay we don't get it. Like everyone else I'm not happy that everyone else in the UK gets it for free. However, we either pay up or continue with broadband speeds of ~1Mbps. What would you do? I've already explored every possible public funding route and hit a brick wall - feel free to check out my website for all the information www.jigalo.co.uk. If you have any further question please feel free to come along to Dodworth Club (Station Road 12:00 Sunday 17th Nov).

Reply Posted by Steve on Friday November 15 2013 at 18:39
Why don't they use some of that money they have paid for the football deal.?

Reply Posted by anon on Saturday November 16 2013 at 16:04
Simple thing here change supplier's

Reply Posted by Col on Saturday November 16 2013 at 16:12
wish this would happen on our street .. we have real poor broadband speed and I have contacted both virgin and bt who are in the area but just 1 street away from us and they wont bring it onto our street :(

Reply Posted by dd on Saturday November 16 2013 at 16:22
so what happened to the millions of pounds bmbc paid 4 areas 2 have it. ? another scam

Reply Posted by dd on Saturday November 16 2013 at 16:22
so what happened to the millions of pounds bmbc paid 4 areas 2 have it. ? another scam

Reply Posted by CHRIS on Saturday November 16 2013 at 16:26
Sorry Annon... What you have to understand is its not about suppliers ... Eg SKY or VIRGIN... It's BT OPENREACH who provide the infra structure therefore for every household ... So switching suppliers makes no difference at all .. Therefore we are in a catch 22 .. As Jon points out .. We either come together as a community and pay a one off payment to BT to bring our homes in to the 21st century .... Or pay for a broad band service that doesn't even allow us to watch YouTube videos without constant streaming !
As KC. Says " Power to the People "

Reply Posted by Dan on Saturday November 16 2013 at 16:37
FYI Virgin use their own infrastructure not openreach

Reply Posted by Collet on Saturday November 16 2013 at 16:41
Millions have been wasted by the Councillors on failed ideas they should be made to pay for it,councillor Mr Houghtons great broadband idea biggest ever FLOP, it's to be hoped they don't have anymore.

Reply Posted by anon on Saturday November 16 2013 at 20:21
It all boils down to money in the end and not a customer service..Business nowadays should learn that if they want a very good customer service they should be willing to fork out this.. In the future I'm sure BT would be quids in unless Virgin decided to install their network or Sky and take away the BT customers which in that case they will loose out..
It's all money money money ,greedy fat cats,council,energy companies,TV companies,Government are all in it for the kerching at the end of the month and not for the people. Robbing *****

Reply Posted by Me on Saturday November 16 2013 at 20:35
@Jonclapham I don't get my broadband for free so not sure where you got that from.

Reply Posted by NOT ME on Saturday November 16 2013 at 20:44
Me, He dosn,t say you get it free.Read the post correctly before spounting utter dribble.He states why sould he and the residents pay for a new street box so he can receive a faster broadband . don't post if you haven't the time to read his post correctly which makes a lot of sense..which you have got none..

Reply Posted by christine kilkenny on Sunday November 17 2013 at 10:24
Me@ what a disgrace you are..jonclapnam is doing is best for his neighbours and trying to sort out a compromise with BT,so all the residents can enjoy faster internet...I wouldn't like to be a neighbour of ME@ so selfish idiotic fool..Keep going JON and good luck..

Reply Posted by Ged on Sunday November 17 2013 at 00:00
So how about this approach ...

You've been paying £5 a month too much for the quality you get. That's £60 a year, £600 for the time you've had it. You've already paid your share - multiply that by the no. of residents and tell BT to rectify the problem from the cost of this overcharge with the excess donated to Cancer Research.

Just a thought.

Reply Posted by joe bloggs on Monday November 18 2013 at 18:11
Who cares if hirsty has slow Internet capital fm like galaxy before it only played same 5 songs day in day day out

Reply Posted by Adam on Monday November 18 2013 at 18:37
What about the DigitalRegion fibre optics? It already be installed across South Yorkshire and Barnsley and has 25Mb/sec min.

Reply Posted by Scott on Monday November 18 2013 at 18:54
Think the council should help virgin media to install in dodworth then you will find out bt will pull there finger out because they would not want to lose customers