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Council's Changes To Environmental Services - A WAB Guide

Friday October 25 2013




THE budget for repairing the town's pothole-ridden roads is being slashed in half, from £320,000 to just £160,000 a year, among a host of other money-saving changes. Here's your WAB Guide on what's set to change.

A council report says this can only be done for one year, or two at most, before the borough's roads sustain significant long-term damage.

It states there were 33,500 defects repaired in 2012/13 but it's thought only 18,000 defects a year could be repaired under the new £160,000 budget, meaning about 15,000 minor defects will not be touched from 2014/15, resulting in the highway surface deteriorating.

Four jobs and one vehicle will also be lost as a result, but cuts to environmental services as a whole threatens 43 jobs and other significant reductions in services.

Two packages of cuts were approved by Barnsley Council last month - saving more than £2million. Here's a list of where the money will be saved.

- Three senior management posts will be lost through merging Neighbourhood Services with Waste and Engineering Services to save £150,000.

- The refuse and recycling collection is being redesigned to save £450,000 through the loss of 11 jobs, four refuse collection vehicles and a reduction in overtime.

- Two supervisory/management posts in Neighbourhood Services will go to save £60,000 and cardboard will be separated from green waste to avoid £250,000 in disposal costs.

- Eight street cleaner posts will be cut but many of the 1,500 litter bins will continue to be emptied, with seldom used bins being removed. All dog bins will continue to be emptied.

- Grass mowing will be slashed and five jobs lost to save £130,000 by not mowing 200,000 sq metres of banks and 'hard to cut' areas.

- Three jobs will be lost in general grounds maintenance, saving £72,000 and reducing the number of shrub and flower beds everywhere except Barnsley town centre and the crematorium.

- Public toilets will be closed other than in Barnsley town centre, leading to the loss of one job and saving £40,000.

- Two ranger service jobs will go to save £60,000, resulting in less maintenance and remedial work on 750km of public rights of way.

- The Play Area team will also lose a post, saving £30,000.

A council report warns it will substantially reduce the team's ability to repair or replace play equipment when it becomes unsafe. In time, all play equipment will be removed as there will no longer be funds to repair or replace equipment.

- A job and tractor will be lost in the Tractor Team to save a further £50,000 and means some 1,000,000 sq metres of grass will no longer be mown.

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Reply Posted by open road on Friday October 25 2013 at 15:51
not to worry,we from barnsly just put up to all the cut backs,while the consultants take all the money out of the pot..

Reply Posted by dedatodd on Friday October 25 2013 at 15:56
Have the figures on compensation for car damage due to defects been factored?

Reply Posted by Anon on Friday October 25 2013 at 15:58
Wow, you could get rid of one external consultant per year and save almost as much. (See: Unison outraged by wage). To be fair I'm not sure if that consultant is being hired for a year: but it does seem grossly unfair that there are obviously hard-working people losing their jobs, when each of their wages appear to be roughly a quarter of what he's paid.

Reply Posted by John Smith on Friday October 25 2013 at 16:07
How many Unison posts are paid for by the council?

Reply Posted by Mick on Friday October 25 2013 at 16:16
I hope one of the changes will be an end to those street cleaners who wander about with a black bin bag & a pair of giant tongs. It's so inefficient. Why don't they have petrol powered vacuums (like you get for leaves)? So much quicker & can collect loads more.

Reply Posted by T on Tuesday October 29 2013 at 15:17
if people like you didn't drop litter then street cleaners could get on with other things up yours ass wipe

Reply Posted by Ackerman on Friday October 25 2013 at 16:19
Dread to think how the roads will be come January when winter takes an hold, They will be like dirt tracks with street lamps.

Reply Posted by Ivor Biggun on Friday October 25 2013 at 16:47
Sounds like the council is going back to the good old days of paying more out in insurance claims than they spend on maintaining the road. Will they never learn from previous mistakes?

Reply Posted by sid to mr Khan on Friday October 25 2013 at 22:26
Hey Mr khan, I'm glad you and your beautiful family have your own business and have no pressure ,mines the same. This council lot are just hiring and firing at will. They don't seem to care. I bet they don't have to shop for cheeeep kestrel.

Reply Posted by mr khan here to sid on Friday October 25 2013 at 22:45
sid@ bloody bad this town,job cuts and paying bloody ££££££ to this Finnegan consultant,im very lucky shop in very friendly area,bloody loads of customers wanting a bloody bargain,old man bought 4 cans kestrel yesterday,he came in today for some bloody more,he says this is bloody good stuff I thought I was flying in my sleep,must dash having locals round for supper,bloody wife make lovely curry,mr khan serving Barnsley 40yrs plus,,bye fellow WAGers sleep tight,

Reply Posted by sid on Friday October 25 2013 at 22:45
everywhere i go the fake sid is always there.hes above me now,the imposter,

Reply Posted by lee c on Friday October 25 2013 at 22:50
lol you have got to love mr khan tho sid, anyways, how did you emmerdale go!!!!!

Reply Posted by Rubydoo on Friday October 25 2013 at 23:02
I shop in Wombwell sometimes, maybe once a week, the pavements are filthy. Dog mess being the worst thing. It really does put people off and I pity people trying to negotiate their way through it all with prams, pushchairs and toddlers.

Hope Barnsley and surrounding areas are not going to be totally neglected.

Reply Posted by sid on Friday October 25 2013 at 23:07
@rubydoo, the dog muck is everywhere. That's nothing to do with the council though,its the scruffy owners. I think we will see a lot of changes though. Its such a shame about the playgrounds. Mostly though its the folk losing tnier jobs, my heart goes out to them,it must be awful. Can't imagine a life without a wage.

Reply Posted by Rubydoo on Sunday October 27 2013 at 16:15
I agree sid, the dog mess should be cleaned up by the owners. I think some people see the streets scruffy so they think what's a bit more rubbish/dog muck and standards start going down further.
We need street cleaners, grass cutting etc etc. It gives people jobs and it helps keep towns and villages looking decent.
I stress though, it's the publics responsibility to clean up after their dogs and not drop litter in the first place.
I too cannot imagine life without a wage, been working now for 38 years and I wouldn't have it any other way. I can get my pension when I'm 66 so only another 12 years to go............if I'm lucky!

Reply Posted by sid on Friday October 25 2013 at 23:12
i dont believe this our friendly imposter the fake sid is still pretending to be me.

Reply Posted by lee c on Friday October 25 2013 at 23:14
right, lets help the council out.............oh by the way i dont want £12,000 a month either, i love my town, and people and im not greedy. gardening?? people with no job............minimum wage. toilet cleaning.......minimum wage, recycling minimum wage.!!!!!!! there are hundreds of people that want a job in barnsley. come on council............stop giving stupid wages out (12000 a month ) and sort our town out. there is a lot of people that are proud of barnsley. its no good sitting on arses and thinking about it, lets strip the idle pen pusher's that dont even live in barnsley of their high paid jobs and give them to the educated barnsley team.....................were do we get them from i here you ask?????? try the colleges.........we have enough of them. and were do our students go ? to a thriving place like leeds e.t.c or london.
we could be a thriving town, we have become multi cultural, a lot of people may be racist..............they soon think twice when they need petrol on christmas day or a shop thats open more the 5 hours!!!!!!. the Asians and Muslims have helped barnsley out for years by staying open at un sociable hours.

sorry sid for going off line, and ranting but,.................i just want to be proud of my town.

Reply Posted by bill on Friday October 25 2013 at 23:18
sid the new emmerdale star.id just like to say that the fake sid above you sounds nothing like you.hes just a copycat.

Reply Posted by sid on Friday October 25 2013 at 23:21
@leec. I like a lot of what you say. You can be Mr.khans friend with me. Lol. Seriously though,it looks like were in for a bumpy ride. I really hope the council know what they are doing,we don't know all the details of the problems,let's hope they have our best interest at heart. All we can do is trust them.

Reply Posted by barnsley bob on Friday October 25 2013 at 23:29
sid dont let the fake sid is get to you.hes just an attention seeker.i had a weido pretending to be me.a barnsley smackhead probably

Reply Posted by lee c on Saturday October 26 2013 at 00:43
dont worry barnsley bob, me and sid ( the real one ) know what your like. you too can join our gang with mr khan ( bless him ).
in my early days, you could go to council, and speak to one person, and they would sort it.............. now they employ a load of numpties that send yer to different departments.............and they wonder why the country is insane.

we have pcso 's that have the same power as a public person as, what happened to the 2 pc's that use to walk around?

bin men that carnt move the bin more the a yard otherwise its against the health and safety rule.
postmen that can not deliver because there is a bush in way
window cleaners that arnt allowed to clean above a certain height.

do you know, im 39 yrs old, and at 17 i said to my parents, .........the only thing the government havent taxed yet is the mattress we sleep on!!!!!!!!!! now we have the bedroom tax!!!!!!

i think scotland have the best idea, cutting off from england and running their own country. shame we carnt do it with counties and cut off yorkshire from south!!!!!


rant over for now.

Reply Posted by x on Saturday October 26 2013 at 09:08
and so it continues, people losing their jobs so that they can be replaced with people claiming benefits.redundance today doing the same job tomorrow for benefits,what a sad place we are heading towards when someone on say £300 a week loses their job and gets replaced by someone on £74 a wk because that is exactly what this government are proposing to do

Reply Posted by T on Saturday October 26 2013 at 09:09
What a joke. Heard Wakefield road is like a river when it rains too. New council required.

Reply Posted by sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 18:05
just to let everyone know.the we love sid fan club is up and running.mr khan and i are both surprised at the number of people who have ask to join.we,are looking for new members,everybody is welcome.to join simply get in touch with mr khan or me and will let you have all the details.

Reply Posted by sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 18:08
Thanks for running me a fan club up lol.
It's a pity you,all never have one though.

Reply Posted by sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 18:22
we regret we are not accepting fraudsters or imposters into the we love sid fan club.the person who made the comment above is my clone.he is the fake sid.mr khan has confirm this to be a fact so dont let yourselves be decieved by the imposter.

Reply Posted by barnsley bob on Sunday October 27 2013 at 19:10
above his the fake sid,grammer terrible,the real sid is very well educated,,

Reply Posted by WE LUV SID FANCLUB on Sunday October 27 2013 at 18:30
WE KNOW THE REAL SID AND ITS NOT THE ONE MAKING WITH THE FUNNY JOKES ABOVE OUR SID.SID THE FANCLUB IS GETTING BIGGER EACH DAY WIV MORE PEOPLE WANTING TO JOIN.

Reply Posted by sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 18:32
You Muppet.

Reply Posted by bill on Sunday October 27 2013 at 18:41
ay up our kid.hows tha go about joining your fantastic fanclub as me and our lass want to join.my misses thinks your great.

Reply Posted by mr khan on Sunday October 27 2013 at 18:48
goodness,graceous me.your bloody is doing bloody good,yes ideed it is.mrs khan is being a member now.she be telling all of the customers in our little shop all about fanclub sid.

Reply Posted by mr khan here on Sunday October 27 2013 at 19:07
sid@ still got the bloody imposter,you know how I word my post.the real mr khan here,serving Barnsley customers for over 40yrs,,,good day fellow WABers,you true sid always welcome in my shop.the bad grammer gives the fake sid away,,,

Reply Posted by sid to mr khan on Sunday October 27 2013 at 19:20
Haaa, Mr.khan. Yes, its stupid lol. At least he,s not swearing as he usually does. He,s an idiot, the trouble is,I reckon he,s old enough to know better as he mentioned green shield stamps on one of his posts! I think they finished before you and your beautiful family opened your shop.! What a silly twit. He needs a life of his own.

Reply Posted by mr khan here on Sunday October 27 2013 at 19:30
sid@i googled green shield stamps,i wondered what the bloody hell he on about,me shop never take them,only crisp paper money allowed,me shop very busy with this bloody kestrel,2 yrs out of date and it bloody flying of the shelves,must go to pray now,the new mat needs bedding in,bye all you WABers,speeling all correct goodness gracious me oh bloody hell,mr khan serving Barnsley over 40yrs,,

Reply Posted by sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:05
mr khan you know im sid.im one of your best customers.so why are you talkin to the faux sid.never took for an easily decieved type of person.it seems like you are being decieved by the faux sid.he is jealous of me cause i got my own fan club an your the secretary of it.

Reply Posted by above fake sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:30
deceived not decieved,,a true give away,real sid can spell,hahahahahahaha

Reply Posted by the real mr khan on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:13
goodness,graceous me sid your bloody right.he is the faux pretending to be you.mrs khan she is agreeing with you.you is being our best customer.you is being the real sid

Reply Posted by above fake mr khan on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:27
gracious not graceous,its a real giveaway

Reply Posted by the real sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:21
thanks mr khqn i knew you would realise i was the real sid.tell your lovely wife i was asking for her and her i might make her my no 1 fan and give her special offers in the we love sid fan club.

Reply Posted by above fake sid, on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:25
you really got to spell correctly,sid can spell,

Reply Posted by Sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:48
Its lol. He,s not a very good imposter. I think he,s a bit disturbed, he,s posting as a fake did and a fake Mr.khan. very silly.

Reply Posted by Sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:52
Above post should have read...fake Sid.
Poor spelling,its catching off the imbecile lol.

Reply Posted by the real sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:47
well spotted.truth is ive been hitting the juice a bit hard and smokin too much wacky bacca.my spelling has suffered because of it.as mr khan will we both like chasing the dragon.but rest assured im the real sid.mr khan does enjoy his little joke lol.

Reply Posted by fake sid above,, on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:59
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Reply Posted by the real sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 22:59
hahah fake you have been caught out at last^

Reply Posted by the real sid on Sunday October 27 2013 at 23:10
so much for the fake sid being educated.he cant spell his worms properly.hes given his self away.haha.

Reply Posted by fed up wi yu on Sunday October 27 2013 at 23:13
Worms???

Reply Posted by dd on Monday October 28 2013 at 17:17
potholes in roads ? what about the damage cars do to the pavements ? driving on them all the time ? are they going to get repaired ?

Reply Posted by john on Friday November 8 2013 at 20:16
cuts all over the board, talks of council tax going up. Why do we pay road tax if the roads are just going to be neglected, Yet again its the working people keeping this town afloat. why dont we get people who have been out of work for 10 years to work for free????

Reply Posted by Sick of the BS on Friday November 8 2013 at 20:24
Budget is slashed in half? Who IS getting pot hole repairs, coz it aint happening in my area...I suppose it just the roads where councilors live to protect their Mercs from damages...
@ dd, cars wouldn't have to drive on pavements if roads were suitable lol

Reply Posted by Collet on Saturday November 9 2013 at 00:35
If all you intelligent people above didn't vote Labour every election, like your mums and dads did, because that's when they were worth voting for we possibly wouldn't be in as big of shit ole we are in know.bye the way if every house owner started to clean up in front of there own house,instead of expecting some one else to do it,like your mums used to do along time ago Barnsley and outlining places would be a better place