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Hundreds Add Signatures To Bedroom Tax Petition

Monday August 5 2013


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OVER 250 people added their signatures to a petition against the so-called 'bedroom tax' during a town centre protest last Saturday.

It was organised by the Barnsley Campaign Against the Bedroom Tax group, who are against government changes that have seen a reduction in the amount of housing benefit people receive if they're deemed to have a spare bedroom in their council or housing association home.

The protest saw one campaigner in a mock-up of her 'spare' room, which measures six feet eight inches by six feet five inches, to highlight the group's argument that box rooms should not be
classified as bedrooms.

Barnsley Campaign Against the Bedroom Tax will be holding lobbies at future Barnsley Council meetings and is now planning action to prevent evictions of those who fail to pay the 'bedroom tax'.

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Reply Posted by Ackerman on Monday August 5 2013 at 13:07
Wont achieve sod all with Barnsley Council, They only interested in the money and dont care where it comes from.

Reply Posted by Fred on Monday August 5 2013 at 13:44
Simple solution - don't want to pay bedroom tax ? BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE and stop sponging off the government, it is THEIR house, NOT YOURS !!!

Reply Posted by maud on Monday August 5 2013 at 16:20
love I wish did'nt av to claim benefits my husband is genuinely disabled he needs 24/7 care which I do all myself I don't get any help only if my daughter is off work I would love to beable to go out to work as I used to work full time you could tell me to move to a smaller house but the council adapted my house for wheel chair access to the house n bathroom but put in the agreement that if I moved in the next 5 yrs I would have to pay back almost £30,000 so I don't moan about the bedroom tax but it dose take it's toll on our income just saying thr is some genuine people that has no choice but to claim benefits

Reply Posted by louise on Monday August 5 2013 at 16:46
well just think with government cutting peoples money how can they live n pay bedroom tax wen government takin money off people

Reply Posted by Jimmy on Tuesday August 6 2013 at 10:21
Fred, it's not the government's house. It belongs to American banks and various foreign investors who took over the running of former council houses in this country (given to them at far, far below the market value). I hope you get struck down with a debilitating disease then you can sponge off the government and be ridiculed

Reply Posted by alan on Monday August 5 2013 at 14:16
nothing to do with the council ackerman,its the goverment whos made the law.they are just doing what they are told to do by the new law of the land.its not even council money they dont get it.its just less money the goverment have to fork out.

Reply Posted by disgrintled on Monday August 5 2013 at 15:37
Not everyone who lives in a council house is on housing benefit, just because you rent from the council doesn't make you a scrounger, #jusayin

Reply Posted by beep beep on Monday August 5 2013 at 16:50
Surely people who are working should be in their own homes or private rented.
Social housing ie council houses should be short term for the needy, not a lifestyle choice for folk who would rather spend their wages on holidays, caravans, villas in Spain etc ( yep we have seen it all).
So if you work get out of the social housing so somebody with no job has a roof over their heads.

Reply Posted by liz on Monday August 5 2013 at 16:00
of course it is classed as a bedroom it can easily be used as a bedroomif you can manage in a 2 bed you should have a 2 bed or one bed its ridiculous I was on list for years before I ended up being lucky enough to buy too many familys need that extra room. im sorry but its not the governments job to fund a persons house you hear them in the playground moaning that they are going to have to start and pay towards there house ... and so they should some of these people have never worked and don't intend to they they need to be made to earn the benefit they get . I am not against benefits they are there for helping those that need it not as a way of life.

Reply Posted by Tom on Monday August 5 2013 at 16:03
Fred- The real spongers/scroungers aren't tenants they are the ones who own.

I could buy my 1bed council property with a 70% discount on a 25 year mortgage. The weekly mortgage payment would be less than the bedroom tax many people are being forced to pay for a box room in Barnsley.
The government is actively subsidising people buying homes up to £600 000 in value.
The government will pay for the remainder of a single pensioners life the mortgage interest on a 6 bedroom £250 000 home (no bedroom tax for the debt incumbent mortgage holders).
I could buy a 2up 2down and be guaranteed a return on my investment due to landlord benefit and a planning regime that creates an artificial scarcity of housing.
Interest rates have been manipulated downwards by the government to subsidise the banks balance sheets and the feckless who got into too much mortgage debt and caused the financial crisis in the first place.

Yet a tenant who has paid for their house many times over in rent over the years, then finds themselves unemployed with a 'spare room', that might not even be big enough to fit a bed in, in the first place, is expected to pay daft amounts of money for something he has paid for many times over, already.


Reply Posted by beep beep on Monday August 5 2013 at 16:52
Tom you are talking utter garbage.

If you can buy then go and buy a private property. Social housing should not be sold to people like you who are just thinking of the bottom line.

Shut up and pay up.

These people who you are slating pay your benefits.

Reply Posted by Tom on Monday August 5 2013 at 20:41
Why should I buy a private property that is priced above it's natural worth. The market is rigged. I should have the freedom to build my own house and the government should stop subsidising property owners and debt incumbents (and in turn the banks). Interest rates should be allowed to rise, banks should be allowed to fail, house prices should be allowed to crash.
If capitalism was allowed to function we could have lower living costs and better lives. Instead the government does all it can to stop the housing bubble popping, and actively tries to re-inflate a new bubble.
It then penalises the poorest at vast expense to the taxpayer, in a way which will ultimately lead to worse housing conditions for us all.
People will be forced out of their homes in areas of low housing demand, they will end up homeless, the homes will be demolished, and we shall all be poorer.

Reply Posted by Brian on Monday August 5 2013 at 17:29
Tom what are you talking about? you my friend are a complete waste of time, effort and natural rescources. please dont litter this site with your drivel any longer.

Reply Posted by Tom on Monday August 5 2013 at 20:43
Ricardo's law and the great tax clawback scam.

Search for it on youtube.

Reply Posted by mustapha phag on Tuesday August 6 2013 at 00:41
When someone starts talking crap.
Everybody starts talking crap.
all you people who who believe that you own your own house .
Put your hand up.
All those people who believe that they own there own house who put there hand up.......
Why do you have to get planning permission to build an extension to your house. is it not your property.
No it is not. can you have noisy partys whenever you want. no you cannot.
If the government says they are going to put a motorway through your garden
or put the hst railway through your house.
Can you say " no you cant"....." no you cant.
So really who owns your house....
When you get a mortgage every month you pay the landlord...THE BANK. you. pay this for 25 / 40 years if times become bad your landlord THE BANK .
Kicks you out otherwise when your about
60+ you can sit back in your old rocking chair and. and start to pay for the neglect
that the house has lost over the years.
The new roof.
Rewiring.
Paying him on the dole to do your garden
no you dont really own anything.do you

Reply Posted by Tom on Tuesday August 6 2013 at 13:03
Aye, freehold is a form of tenure and this country runs on mortgage debt. Massive amounts of our GDP come from mortgage debt, debt interest, and totally fictitious 'imputed rents'.
525 years ago the English man lost the right to build his own house. That's why the state has to provide housing, to stop a revolution before it starts.
An English man's home is his prison.

Reply Posted by Chris on Tuesday August 6 2013 at 10:25
Fred - Now the self status mortgages have gone can you suggest how somebody would get a mortgage on a zero hours contract? What about the people who live in London? A two-bedroom flat in my borough (and this isn't central London) is around £450,000.00. Have you any idea what you would have to be earning to get a mortgage for this amount?

Reply Posted by clare on Tuesday August 6 2013 at 11:18
im not totally in agreement with the bed room tax but lets be honest why should anyone feel they are entitled to a spare empty bedroom, one that my tax's pay for in terms of housing benefit. ????? I haven't got a spare room nor do I feel I am entitled to one unless I can buy a larger home.

on the flip side why do the council put single persons or couples in 3 bed houses. This has happened in my local village only last week. Im sure there are enough families with children to fill these said family houses so what we need are more flats / bungalows / and accommodation for the elderly so that they can free up some family homes

Reply Posted by x on Tuesday August 6 2013 at 15:45
im not so sure claire iv'e noticed that 3 bed houses are standing empty longer than they used to, and in my personal opinion i think that eventually they will struggle to get people to take them, knowing that at some point they will have to move again if its a family with older children they will be having to move again sooner rather than later

Reply Posted by Stevo on Tuesday August 6 2013 at 20:09
Divide and Conquer, keep the poor supressed whilst the Tories and their cohorts sup their Claret in their mansions.
Let them work but only let them work on zero hours contracts with no hope for the future, no holiday pay and no pensions.

Disabled people and their families / carers MUST be exempt from this highly discriminatory tax surely?

WRONG! The Tories couldn't give a monkeys chuff, Ian Duncan-Smith (who was christened George Smith but changed his name to IDS as it didn't sound Tory enough) is the epitome of the word EVIL.

This man has the blood of 10,600 people (and counting) on his hands as does the Tories "murdering arm" Atos.

Don't think for one minute that Labour will repeal the bedroom tax IF they get in next time because they wont.

Reply Posted by x on Wednesday August 7 2013 at 12:38
i wish more people would take off the blinkers this government seem to have glued to peoples heads and see what they are actually doing,stop spending all your time ranting about people who recieve benefits and look at what these people are doing to us as working people.we keep ranting about what this government have and hav'nt done but what you keep overlooking is that its actually people who run this country all grouped together and given a name,these people are doing and thinking how they want not what the country wants,its people who are making the decision to send people into poverty,these greedy, selfish, self centered, egotistic, lower working class hating,snobs are deciding how we should live, what we need to live on, how much minimum wage we should get while they make sure they are not affected in any derogatory way.wake up smell the coffee and realise that they are exactly the same as some of you on here and are only concerned with themselves.and when everyone is employed on zero hrs contracts you will be kissing the homes youv'e worked hard to purchase goodby,stop defending what they are doing to the poor and stand together before its too late

Reply Posted by mae brussel on Wednesday August 7 2013 at 16:12
In the 1930s you would have had more than 10 people and there living i two and three bedroomed rented propertys.
And not all from the same family.
Do you want to go backwards.

Reply Posted by mae brussel on Wednesday August 7 2013 at 16:19
Why do we keep getting scottish ancestory running . This england.
When scotland is free as the adverts keep telling us.
Free prescriptions
free parking in hospitals
free bus passes for over 60s
and stagecoach is scottish

Reply Posted by lol on Friday August 9 2013 at 08:59
IT WONT APPLY TO PAKIS.

Reply Posted by lol on Friday August 9 2013 at 11:02
your no 1 prime minister maggi thatcher gave every-body the right to buy. so i dont fell sorry for anybody.you had the chance.

Reply Posted by anon on Friday August 9 2013 at 22:52
Its ok saying the wicked witch of the west saying let them buy their council houses, but what the daft old tart should have said is, for every house sold you build one to replace it. That would have saved all this with the thieving bedroom tax.

Reply Posted by dave on Friday August 9 2013 at 16:10
good on you lol i have to agree

Reply Posted by ravi salem on Friday August 9 2013 at 16:58
DONT PAY BEDROOM TAX BUY A TENT PROBLEM SOLVED.

Reply Posted by sally on Friday August 9 2013 at 22:29
shut the f up about bedroom tax you are muppets its a review on housing benefit and how much you are entitled to why should you have your full rent paid to live in a 3 bed prop that you don't need when I and many others are working and paying your dam rent through our taxes and we can only afford to rent smaller properties get a dam reality check you thick idiots

Reply Posted by ravi salem on Saturday August 10 2013 at 08:42
i pay all my taxs i also pay ground rent,now you shut the **** up.

Reply Posted by Mary on Saturday August 10 2013 at 18:31
Sally I kind of agree with the overall message.
All the people moaning should get a grip and be grateful to the workers for supplying their taxes to the government. Instead we get idiots like Tom above with his claptrap about god knows what and Stevo with his conspiracy theories.
Fact - working people pay for non working people and disabled and elderly (with no money saved up) to have subsidised housing.
Fact - Workers are not moaning about so called bedroom tax. They have had to put up with crap mortgages and expensive rent for years.
Fact - Most of the unemployed of Barnsley make no effort to work and state they cannot get a job etc. This is rubbish. They mean that they will not work for minimum wage but will not educate themselves and improve themselves to get better jobs. Loads are unemployable due to criminality and lack of social skills and zero education.
Fact - You can sign as many petitions as you like it will not change. It is here to stay so people will either pay up or lose their accommodation. I will not say home as it is not their home.
Fact - If people do not like it and think they deserve better then they should realise that this is just the start for the unemployed ( think Victorian times).

Reply Posted by Stevo on Sunday August 11 2013 at 18:29
What conspiracy theories?

All the info contained in my post is FACT!
You obviously have your head in the sand exactly the same as the majority of the people that post on here.

Reply Posted by Tom on Monday August 12 2013 at 03:30
RICS publishes build cost figures, average cost of build of new build housing is £30k.per house.
No way should a house cost more than this.
Bedroom tax of £1k per year is ridiculous.

It is more than a mortgage should be on an actual house.

Reply Posted by x on Saturday August 10 2013 at 12:53
i pay my rent and council tax too sally and if your inteligence only stretches too insulting people worse off than us then sorry your the muppet that needs a dam reality check have you any idea how many people are trying to downsize.theres a 1 bed bungalow come empty across from me and you'd think they were giving gold bars away at the property the number of people a day p[ulling up outside and looking at it.so many people and only 1 house do the maths sally for every 1 person who manages to downsize there are dozens who are dissapointed calling people names does nothing to solve the problem

Reply Posted by beep beep on Saturday August 10 2013 at 18:33
Sorry x but I could not understand a damn thing that you wrote due to spelling and punctuation. So maybe your intelligence needs to be called into question first.

Reply Posted by x on Saturday August 10 2013 at 20:06
beep beep my spelling and punctuation may not be as articulate as yours but it doesn't take a super brain to know you cant downsize if the houses are not there.and i dare bet when you get to my age beep beep your spelling and punctuation will start getting a bit rusty too, and i am quite proud of how few spelling mistakes i have made,i think ive done quite well.oh and one last thing if you can't understand a damn thing i wrote, may i suggest that just maybe your not as intelligent as you so obviously think you are

Reply Posted by get a iob on Sunday August 11 2013 at 20:10
all on the scronge summat for nowt

Reply Posted by mae brussel on Monday August 12 2013 at 00:42
Mary mary quite contrary how does your garden grow .
Yes lets think victorian times and whos your daddy.
If you would like to find out more about your ancestors you know where to look
its advertised enough.but the truth is .
Non of its true.
Just gloryfied claptrap.just like your words

Reply Posted by Mary on Monday August 19 2013 at 20:24
What are you on?

Reply Posted by gabbage on Monday August 26 2013 at 13:43
sprout off