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Residents React To Housing Development Proposals

Friday July 26 2013


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WOMBWELL residents have reacted to proposals for what would be the largest housing development in years.

Persimmon Homes has set out plans to build 239 houses on a stretch of land off the White Rose roundabout, between Barnsley Road and the Mitchells Way bypass, which is currently agricultural land used for growing wheat.

The land has been classed as greenbelt and unsuitable for building but, in the council's draft local development framework (LDF) published last year, it was identified as a possible housing site.

Jeff Stuart, 69, of Barnsley Road said: "I'm against the proposals altogether but traffic problems on Barnsley Road concern me most.

"When you're coming up from the White Rose roundabout towards Wombwell, you'd have only just straightened up when you would be hitting the first access road - and vision for anyone coming up the hill out of there is going to be very poor.

"There's going to be an accident. I know it's supposed to be 30 miles per hour on there but people routinely break the limit."

Cllr Dick Wraith said he welcomed more housing in Wombwell but shared residents' concerns about traffic on Barnsley Road.

He said: "It's on the bend and it's not going to be a good access point. It's bad enough at the moment with people parking either side and, if there's a bus coming through, you've to let it get by before you can go through.

"It's very tight and Wombwell members aren't happy with the current proposals."

However he added they were only proposals and Persimon had not yet submitted a planning application to the council.

Other issues which may arise from a housing development of that size include the strain on the area's infrastructure.  

Cllr Wraith said: "It's good for Wombwell to have more houses built but it will put pressure on schools. Netherwood would be able to cope with the extra pupils but primary schools are already full."

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Reply Posted by Wayne Heptonstall on Friday July 26 2013 at 13:18
If the land is designated as Greenbelt it should remain Greenbelt... how about designating some land next door to Councillor Dicki Wraiths property for housing??

Reply Posted by jan on Friday July 26 2013 at 13:30
I live on aldham estate, n theres hardly a bit of land that hasn't been taken for housing, leaving nowhere for kids to play. n what bit of land that is left is being used by inconsiderate dog walkers who leave the dog mess, n by the workers on the building sites using it as dumping ground for their left over rubbish from lunchboxes. its like living in slums

Reply Posted by Moe. on Friday July 26 2013 at 14:35
I notice the mention of Aldham House Lane I can remember when they put the hosine estate at the very top neae to Hudson Haven there was TALK then of how it was going to strech down to the houses oa Aldhwms so what went wrong there -years ago AND yes it would be dagerous off the By-PASS so IS WHERE the New School is now -- think about it

Reply Posted by wut? on Friday July 26 2013 at 16:48
was that in english moe?

Reply Posted by Moe. on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 21:51
wut ," thank you for picking me up" I have only the use of one eye at the moment and yes i should have checked it - houseing-strech-at aldham house lane -dangerous

Reply Posted by king louis on Friday July 26 2013 at 18:44
239 houses means up to 500 cars using a pig of an entrance twice each day... fun at rush hour.. I hope the fire engine or ambulance never needs it

Reply Posted by Paul on Saturday July 27 2013 at 07:27
Dick wraith talks out of is. Backside .. Wombwell does not need new housing ,,we are a small village , with more houses than any other bourgh, we have no leisure facilities , our infrastructure for amenitys is shocking ,BMBC are all about tax now ,, council tax ,, leave Wombwell out of it ,, Grimethorpe needs housing ... Stop voting for labour.

Reply Posted by Fred on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 10:11
Grimethorpe already has in excess of 500 new homes - with more being currently built by Strata

Reply Posted by Peter H on Saturday July 27 2013 at 08:32
Barnsley MBC will do exactly what they want, it happened off the M.1. at Dodworth, it happened at Wilthorpe, Low Barugh etc. They (The Council) will do what they like, probably with a Silver Lining to someone's pocket

Reply Posted by doomed on Sunday July 28 2013 at 14:42
they need to keep as much greenbelt land as possible so that people can go and live on it in tents when theyv'e lost their homes,they certainly dont need to build anymore houses anywhere, there will be plenty empty by the time this government have done. people are already getting threatening letters over none payment and a lot of these people have never been in debt with the council but are now facing eviction

Reply Posted by Brian on Sunday July 28 2013 at 16:35
Not everyone in the Barnsley area are paupers and there are lots of people around who can afford to purchase a new modern house and who would be pleased to live in this particular location.

Reply Posted by Brian on Sunday July 28 2013 at 16:37
Doesn't affect me as I live in Cawthorne too, the rest of Barnsley can rot as far as I am concerned.

Reply Posted by Sharon on Monday July 29 2013 at 06:57
'The rest of Barnsley can rot'. With attitudes like that it's no wonder the town is in the state it's in.

Reply Posted by Brian on Monday July 29 2013 at 13:19
Sharon its not my attitude, its the narrow minded, thieving, drug using, lazy scum of barnsley that make it that state. i would rather drive all the way into huddersfield than to that horrible place.

Reply Posted by doomed on Sunday July 28 2013 at 18:42
who do you suggest we vote for then paul the present government? you know the one that wants to start charging up to £25 for us to see our gp.and brian its that sort of attitude thats put this country in the situation it is today. if people who were ok did give a damn about other less well off people then maybe we wouldnt be in the mess were in

Reply Posted by Brian on Monday July 29 2013 at 13:21
No Doomed it was edward heaths labour polices that got us where we are today.
once again labour spending there way out of trouble. labour unfortunatly are built on scandel after scandel. they even released the lockerbie bomber to sweeten an arms deal. you have no idea about the world you live in so
go and do some research before you pull other peoples comments down.

Reply Posted by PlevnaAbe on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 11:26
edward heaths labour polices?? i always thought he was a tory.....i could be wrong.....maybe more research is needed

Reply Posted by Brian on Thursday August 1 2013 at 16:17
He was, i was talking about harold wilson but it was too late to change once posted.

Reply Posted by Paul on Monday July 29 2013 at 01:24
Well having looked at what labour as done to barnsley in the last 15yrs ,,ie finances, planing ,schools, business studies and our biggest white elephant , Barnsley town centre .. We need a fundamental change ,,I don't give a dam who runs central government , but we can change our local government an hopefully we the ppl of workin ages will wake up , an get rid of the labour gravy train that's created all this shit, and who think building houses for purpose of generating more council tax to balance the books ,, crazy,,
Al give ya some facts about Jp,s 55% of patients who use jp,s on a weekly basis are of pension age , another 25% are unhealthy ,,self inflicted selfish ppl who drain our NHS . The other 20% are genuine patients .So you can see why they want to charge to see Jp,s . Not that I want them to charge , well only in cawthorne, that ok Brian.


Reply Posted by Brian on Monday July 29 2013 at 13:39
It would be ok Paul but there GP's not JP's

Reply Posted by Picky on Tuesday July 30 2013 at 12:27
and it's they are not there

Reply Posted by PlevnaAbe on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 11:28
it's they're actually

Reply Posted by picky on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 11:56
they're is an abbreviation of they are actually

Reply Posted by Briandeep singh on Thursday August 1 2013 at 16:13
either, or really

Reply Posted by mustapha phag on Monday July 29 2013 at 10:50
Persimmon homes are better known for building homes on flood plains.like the one near castleford that was built on a flood plain that hadnearly every type of uk dragonfly it had water vole and then persimmon came along and the residents thought it was a good place to dump mattresses tyres. i managed to save the last orchid from being dessimated unfortunately the residents that lived accross the rd werent so lucky when they were flooded out. because of a new rd layout part of the project.....

Reply Posted by Brian on Monday July 29 2013 at 13:24
Human Beings are more important than dragon flies, water voles or flowers with no meaning but to look nice. you my friend are an absolute Sap.

Reply Posted by Brain on Monday July 29 2013 at 16:21
its not about making my man hood small or large its about stating the facts. you care more about the wilting willow on the old school field than you do for any other human beings. and your response to a critique was vile. all said and done the above things are probably true but i do not live in a concrete jungle and im not a "gobshite" as you call it. i reside out in the country in cawthorne have you heard of it? probably not because someone with a vile tongue like yours probably doesnt make more than 15k a year. are you a cleaner?

Reply Posted by mustapha phag on Monday July 29 2013 at 17:01
You my friend are an absolute sap.
Those were your words to me.
Though i would like to add my comment
was about building on flood plains and green belts.
I think that hit a nerve and especially. when you live at cawthorne i bet there wiil be no chance of you inviting persimmon to build that many houses in your green and pleasant village.
Or wentworth come to that.
N o i am not a cleaner. and my geography is 100% and a good part of my life was military and home office

Reply Posted by Brian on Monday July 29 2013 at 17:14
Again i was only speaking truths, it was you're nerve that i hit dear.
ive seen other comments that you have made about 93yr old bus riders.
you are a disgrace to barnsley. oh was you really i did 12yrs in the SAS see anybody can say anything.

Reply Posted by PlevnaAbe on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 11:33
you're?? i presume you mean ''your'', you really need to move away from Cawthorne, it's affecting your ability to type sense. By the way, well done Brian, you spelt SAS correctly

Reply Posted by Brian on Monday July 29 2013 at 18:04
There appears to be two Brian's posting on here. I'm the sensible one who posts logical, constructive and meaningful comments. Then there is the other one who, in the main, spouts 'claptrap' and claims to live in Cawthorne. In reality, I suspect he lives in a scruffy bedsit in an unpleasant part of town. I have only made one other posting in this thread and that was yesterday when I said that not everyone in Barnsley was a pauper.

Reply Posted by Brian on Monday July 29 2013 at 18:14
i am the real brian..

Reply Posted by Real Brian on Monday July 29 2013 at 19:43
NO I'M THE REAL BRIAN!

Reply Posted by BrianNumber3 on Monday July 29 2013 at 18:16
there is 3 Brians posting now Brian number 1.

Reply Posted by mustapha phag on Monday July 29 2013 at 18:57
Well theres a turn up for the books but brian who says he was in the s a s.
I was in the military and if you were in the army. sas tell me your 10 number army number and i will tell you if your lying and i will even tell you what year you were in or are you just a time waster

Reply Posted by Brain on Monday July 29 2013 at 19:18
I wasnt really mustapha i was being sarcastic, saying that anyone can say anything. Army numbers are 8 digits are they not? i have also been in the service's but my number stays with me, these forums arent for personnel information.

Reply Posted by guest on Monday July 29 2013 at 22:45
I lived in cawthorne for a while and much prefer the community spirit shown by most people in other areas of barnsley = some peeps in cawthorne wouldn't know a decent neighbour if they passed one outside their front door

Reply Posted by Hoyland Red on Tuesday July 30 2013 at 09:45
Get ready for 3000 new homes between Birdwell roundabout and the Dearne Valley - coming soon.

Reply Posted by mustapha phag on Tuesday July 30 2013 at 11:46
You are correct in your 8 digit reference.
But a number is just a number instead of a name , so while. everybody says you are just a number....you are. but i wish someone with the name patel would come on here.
There are too many brians

Reply Posted by Sharon on Tuesday July 30 2013 at 13:34
You lot don't half make me chuckle sometimes. Nevermind the houses; what about this access road and not having enough time to straighten up. Is it really that bad? 'Accident waiting to happen' so to speak. I don't drive so input appreciated.

Reply Posted by Brian on Tuesday July 30 2013 at 16:20
Sharon if you cant negotiate a bend dont bother driving.

Reply Posted by Moe. on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 22:02
Please read Brian , Sharon if you look said that She Dose Not Drive ok evey on is reall heated on this and I don't blame any one in particular Barnsley is not in good state at all and I think people quoting figures whi is and who is not a scrooger should really think first

Reply Posted by Mark on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 23:07
Moe - how do you know that Sharon has got a dose?

Oh, and your spelling is not too good either.

Reply Posted by Brian on Thursday August 1 2013 at 16:00
How can i read you're comments when they arent even in english Mo.
Learn to spell and maybe even how to use a sentence.
i know she does'nt drive, so why is she bothering with a stupid comment?

Reply Posted by thirsty bricky on Tuesday July 30 2013 at 20:33
hope so red might even treat myself to a new trowel

Reply Posted by hounddog on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 09:43
i would wecome all the houses on green belt land then laugh at the stupid mistake the council would have made when it pisses it down with rain and floods them out like it as in other areas although its not funny and we should feel sorry for thous who got flooded but most of them was built on mash or green belt land just so the council could make a quick buck

Reply Posted by myself on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 10:06
I grew up in Barnsley, live in Wath now but find it really hard to read the posts on here. They could be from a different planet!!

Reply Posted by Gypsum Fantastic on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 10:42
I really like that little wheat field, but maybe some nicer houses is what the town needs? Maybe the people who move into them will spend some money in local businesses and so the town will get a bit of an economic boost. It could make it a nicer place.

Sure, the traffic might be a problem, and I'd really miss that pretty little wheat field and the view you get from that end of Barnsley Road down the valley towards the east. But there might also be benefits.

I think you're all a bit weird, banging on the way you do, like it's all some big conspiracy by the council to get rich and upset you personally. You've accused the council of both "making a fast buck" and "spending their way out of trouble". Not very rational that, is it?

It's not like the council even owns the land, they just have to adjudicate the planning process between the farmer and the builder. Sounds like they're taking a fairly balanced approach, taking into account all the potential problems and benefits.

Also, wasn't Edward Heath a Conservative, Brian?

Reply Posted by Brian Patel on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 11:38
he was

Reply Posted by Brian on Thursday August 1 2013 at 16:03
Appologies it was harold wilson.

Reply Posted by Briandeep singh.. on Thursday August 1 2013 at 16:11
Callaghan wasnt much better either but then again who has actually been good?

Reply Posted by andy on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 11:15
life of brian. haha.

Reply Posted by Mary on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 12:17
Yes they are thinking of putting 3800 houses between Hoyland and Goldthorpe. There will be housing at Dodworth and Grimethorpe too.

I do not think we need over 8000 new houses for private sale. What the borough really needs ( according to the bedroom tax critics)is more social housing not houses for workers. There needs to be 1 and 2 bed homes for the non workers. These could be placed on one of many brownfield sites in town preferably near transport links and the dole offices. They do not need to be on our countryside.

Plus the problem with flood plains is a real one.

Reply Posted by Brian on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 16:13
Mary, why the hell should the Council build more social housing?

People should take responsibility for their own lives and fortunes instead of getting in the queue for a council house.
Get a job, save up and buy your own bloody houses instead of expecting the taxpayer to build you a house and let you have it at a massively subsidised rents.

As for the people saying the council want to build houses to receive more council tax money, load of rubbish!

£1,200 Pounds a year DOESNT pay for a child school place or road infrastructure does it?

Reply Posted by mary on Friday August 2 2013 at 12:01
Brian aka Stevo. Whether you like it or not (living in Cawthorne) there appears to be a need for social housing. I agree that more people should be responsible but they clearly are not. Therefore our taxes end up being spent on the wrong things such as housing benefits.
There does need to be social housing to house the increasing numbers of pensioners and also disabled people.

Reply Posted by Brian on Friday August 2 2013 at 18:35
What a load of tosh!

Get off your lazy arses, get a job and buy your own.

Social housing should only be for the disabled and pensioners.

Reply Posted by Charles on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 13:49
Well Mary, how about the 'non-workers' becoming 'workers' and then they may be able to afford to buy a home.

Reply Posted by Mary on Friday August 2 2013 at 12:03
Charles just becasue we want people to work does not mean that they will or can. So unless the government force everyone to work and do away with benefits (as in Victorian times) then there is a need for social housing. It is easy to put one liners on as you have but the reality is somewhat different.

Reply Posted by Charles on Friday August 2 2013 at 14:02
Surely, if people are able to work and they choose not, then they should not expect others who do contribute to society, to bail them out.

Able-bodied people should be forced to work or have their benefits cut further.

Please do not tell me that there are no jobs, because there are plenty available for people who really want to work.

The overwhelming majority of people contribute to society and they should not be expected to support the idle and workshy.

This is reality.

Reply Posted by son of brian on Wednesday July 31 2013 at 17:00
Brian,Brian and Brian.....enjoyed the banter.My das called Brian...hope its not you on here pops!!

Reply Posted by Braindeep singh on Thursday August 1 2013 at 19:18
Harold wilson was who i was talking about i got my wires crossed.
he was firstly reffering to my grammer then someone else who wasnt you so pipe down mustapha leek - fag - boyinyourbed

Reply Posted by Swifty on Friday August 2 2013 at 22:13
Social Housing is not just about people on benifits. It's about affordable housing so people can rent and bring up families. The thatcher Goverment are responsible for the housing mess today. and don't forget the 500,000 migrants that are in social housing. And the million that's coming in January 2014 onwards.

Has for Mr Wraith. Supporting this so called mass build its not surprising he's all in favour. He's one of the highest paid councillors in the Barnsley Area he's happy to sit on any planning or board meeting so he can claim his pocket money.£30000 per year almost.

Mr Wraith Says he welcomes new homes in Wombwell but where's the facilities for these people Doctors are full schools are busting at the seams and the local Councillor sat back when they shut our swimming baths, only to award the Metrodomne £700'000 the month later to build a water flume.

I've said it before we no this housing project will go a head no one can stop it. money talks and brown envelopes allegedly speed things up.