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Hall Set To Be Bulldozed

Thursday June 20 2013


Fulford Hall Fulford Hall


A 102-YEAR-OLD former school building is set to be bulldozed to make way for houses once a £1.2million deal is completed.

The future of Fulford Hall, on the site of the old Penistone Grammar School, has been uncertain since the new £35million advanced learning centre opened in 2011.

Bellway Homes, the company behind the development, and Barnsley Council, which owns the Huddersfield Road site, both confirmed a planning application was imminent but could not disclose whether Fulford would be saved, or how many homes would be built.

A Bellway Homes spokesman, said: "It's still very early on in the process. There will be a regeneration aspect as part of the development but we aim to retain some of the existing buildings. We're still working on our plans."

Former pupils and local councillors have campaigned to keep the former grammar school building by starting a petition and applying for listed status from English Heritage to protect it.

The 3.64-acre site has been marketed by Norfolk Property Services on behalf of the council - with a guide price of offers in excess of £1.3million.

A Barnsley Council spokesman said: "A statement will be issued when the property sale transaction is completed.

"Details around proposals for the site will be advertised in the usual manner when the purchaser company submits its planning application and third parties will have an opportunity for comment through the planning process."

Bellway plans to hold a public consultation later this month, when the building company will outline its plans for the site.

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Reply Posted by steeliebobs on Thursday June 20 2013 at 16:08
Just another great piece of local heritage and landmark architecture to be demolished to be replaced by modern day birth control pens! Access to the school car park is already a shambles and extremely dangerous, let's just throw another 100 vehicular movements at peak times into the pot and see what develops shall we? Find out more on the Save Fulford Hall FaceBook page

Reply Posted by old pupil on Thursday June 20 2013 at 16:28
what a shame!! that building has hundreds of years of memories!! nothings safe anymore. Some of the best years of my school life was spent in that building! id recommend also checking the facebook page out

Reply Posted by Betsy on Thursday June 20 2013 at 16:58
why do they keep knocking old heritage and landmarks down just to make room for more houses!! *shakes head* so sad

Reply Posted by Colette on Thursday June 20 2013 at 17:09
Sorry no chance ofsavingit Hoyland town centre was flatend with promises to put back the four faced clock,but as usual we had a four faced council,and finished up with a no character town centre,and guess what, no clock.Good luck to you complainers,but am afraid it's getting Holliday time ,and Holliday pay as got to come from somewhere.

Reply Posted by Observer on Thursday June 20 2013 at 17:18
It's typical of Barnsley council. And typical it's a southern company that's bought it. Someone please tell Barnsley council that a million pound plus? Is not a lot of money anymore. And to destroy a magnificent building for the sake of someone's greeeed. Is nothing less than scandalous.

Reply Posted by Sara on Thursday June 20 2013 at 18:07
The only magnificent building I know of that's ever been saved in the name of residential development is the old grammar school/sixth form college on Huddersfield Road. The company that developed that site managed to retain the dignity of the beautiful building and created desirable and valuable residences in the same equation. Hats off to them, the rest of those uncreative and greedy developers should sit up and take notice.

Reply Posted by stevo on Thursday June 20 2013 at 18:50
Sara, my sentiments exactly!
A friend has one of the flats at the old six form and its lovely.

There is absolutely no need to knock this wonderful building down, BMBC has seen the pound signs yet again.

Wants a preservation order slapping on it as far as I am concerned.

Whats it going to be replaced with as well, no doubt shoe box houses shoe horned into a small area.
AND houses that people can ill afford.

Reply Posted by elaine on Thursday June 20 2013 at 19:04
what the council want the council gets they did the same with the howard brothers from wosb common in the 80s they evicted 2 brothers from the family home both in there 80s & built flats,back handers come to mind.......

Reply Posted by Graham on Thursday June 20 2013 at 19:07
It would be a great shame if this building was to be demolished. Such buildings are worth preserving and renovating. I hope that this happens on this occasion.

Any anger should be directed towards Barnsley council and not the developers, as it is the council which owns the land. With competent negotiators (although this is Barnsley council that I am talking about) the council should be able to sell the site and ensure that the hall is retained and renovated.

Reply Posted by Graham on Thursday June 20 2013 at 19:07
It would be a great shame if this building was to be demolished. Such buildings are worth preserving and renovating. I hope that this happens on this occasion.

Any anger should be directed towards Barnsley council and not the developers, as it is the council which owns the land. With competent negotiators (although this is Barnsley council that I am talking about) the council should be able to sell the site and ensure that the hall is retained and renovated.

Reply Posted by STEVO on Thursday June 20 2013 at 19:53
I CONCUR Graham.

The house will probably be worth about £4 million but BMBC will sell it for £1.2 million.


Reply Posted by Brian on Thursday June 20 2013 at 19:13
Yes Elaine, I remember the Howard brothers who lived at Rose Cottage. They were featured, as I am sure you will recall, in a television documentary. When they eventually moved out of the house I believe that they moved to Silkstone Common.

Reply Posted by me on Thursday June 20 2013 at 19:26
i thought fulford was a listed building?

Reply Posted by sara on Thursday June 20 2013 at 21:34
are you listening barnsley council? the peoples voice - i doubt you care what the people think though, the howard brothers fiasco is a case in point. well said to every one who has commented - i'm glad are are quite a few of us who actually care about heritage, social interaction, infrastructure and human welfare.

Reply Posted by Swifty on Thursday June 20 2013 at 21:52
Lets do away with the money lining pockets of councillors and the money we save each year would buy the undervalued properties this council keep selling on Ebay for peanuts.

Just think we could have saved a building a year.Passed them to local charities to benifit the communities.

Reply Posted by teresa on Thursday June 20 2013 at 23:57
that thing outside town hall wants knocking down barnsley has nothing good to look at its our heritage should be left alone

Reply Posted by Mike Oxlong on Friday June 21 2013 at 11:20
BMBC = Clueless tossers!

Reply Posted by me on Friday June 21 2013 at 13:38
i had my first fumble with a girl under the stairs in fulford happy days lol
dont knock it down bmbc there lots of memorys for many people in that building

Reply Posted by Paul on Friday June 21 2013 at 19:46
Dont blame the council. Its the voters who keep putting these loons into power year in year out. They do not preserve any of our heritage anywhere. In hemingfield they knocked down the infants school which was 184 yrs old. And the stone was locally sorced from the village too. Allegedlly it was a done deal 5 yrs before ot was demolished. My family had 5 generations attend that school. So i really cant see fulford been saved. Sorry

Reply Posted by shazzy on Saturday June 22 2013 at 18:39
waste of time trying to save it, it will go the same way as other grand buildings when planning is sought. Mystery fire which renders it unsafe and jobs a good en

Reply Posted by Angela dixon was gibson on Saturday June 22 2013 at 18:40
I went to penistone grammar school so many memories try to keep abit of history for once instead of makin money

Reply Posted by Carol on Saturday June 22 2013 at 18:41
Hope they can't sell there houses its disgusting leave thing as they are ...

Reply Posted by Jeannette Renshaw on Saturday June 22 2013 at 18:41
I will second that good look in trying tosave the beautiful building but these plans wont be stopped now. I amongst many was a strong,vocal objector( even attending a meeting at the town hall and speaking on behalf of ' the people') but money talks!!!!! The development went ahead and they flattened the beautiful old Darton council offices building and replaced it with a horrid modern building that Does not blend with Darton Church or The Rose & Crown.

Reply Posted by Eurgh on Saturday June 22 2013 at 19:24
As if destroying the historic Sixth Form building and the rest of the old school and replacing it with an abortion of a new school wasn't enough, the mouthbreathers at Barnsley Council want to tear down the only remaining historic building PGS has left, so Bellend Homes can replace it with some poorly built plastic houses? The people at the Council really don't have a braincell to share between them. Utter, utter inconsiderate f**kwits to a man.

Reply Posted by Eurgh on Saturday June 22 2013 at 19:28
Oh, and the fact they've left some of the abhorrent 60s concrete buildings standing in the town centre and chosen to knock down ones full of history goes some way to explaining the level of idiocy on BMBC. Dickheads.

Reply Posted by Johnny on Saturday June 22 2013 at 22:19
I'm sorry, but there are a lot of WABers that seem to contradict each other. If BMBC had decided to take the building on and spend, let's face it, possibly millions renovating the building, we would have all been up in arms "what a waste". Yet a deal has been reached to create revenue and a few more houses, but it seems BMBC are still "dick heads". This is a good decision that will ultimately line Barnsley's pocket and more homes.

Reply Posted by stevo on Sunday June 23 2013 at 13:01
BMBC and the planning dept in particular are dickheads!
I take it you have never come across them then?
when they "announced" their draft housing proposal meeting at Mapp village hall there were no senior planning figures in attendance, they sent a snotty nosed kid along to answer questions, even councillor miller buggered off as people were giving him grief.

To those that are not in the know, BMBC tell us we "need" 27,000 new homes in the borough, the majority of which will be built on green belt land and at prices that people can ill afford.

BMBC would never have taken it on and refurbed it as it would not have been cost effective.
Instead we will have a new housing estate of shoe box houses shoehorned on every available bit of land.

What would you prefer a refurbished old hall in all its Victorian splendour or non descript red bricked houses?

I know which I would chose.

I only hope that the stone will be reclaimed and used again, doubt this will happen though.

Reply Posted by Graham on Saturday June 22 2013 at 22:34
I'm sure it would be possible for Barnsley council to grant planning permission for new housing subject to the hall being preserved, renovated and brought back in to use.

Reply Posted by stevo on Sunday June 23 2013 at 12:49
I agree again Graham.

Reply Posted by Swifty on Saturday June 22 2013 at 22:46
When you've got Barnsley councillors receiving up to £29000 in fees and exspenses for sitting on committees etc.

The who are these people really representing. Not the every day people of Barnsley.

Money talks the country is corrupt to the core.


Reply Posted by Johnny on Saturday June 22 2013 at 22:49
You mention these "expenses". Councillors put a lot of time into the work that they do, often similar to hours of a full time job. These are allowances that they are rightly entitled to. It doesn't matter who is in, they'll never be right.

Reply Posted by Swifty on Sunday June 23 2013 at 00:44
That may be the case. However so does hundreds of other people that do voluntary work. Years ago councillors did the work free and were respected by the communities. The point I'm making is simple for what use councillors have and what appears in my opinion they are just helping rubber stamping decisions from there paymasters. Not the voters.

Reply Posted by stevo on Sunday June 23 2013 at 13:02
Nice one Swifty, couldn't have put it better myself.

Reply Posted by Adam on Wednesday June 26 2013 at 08:10
Only people from Penistone could think this is a bad thing, I'm sure the folk that live there live in the past?? To say everyone is up in arms about who actually goes up there to view the building and walk round if they treasure it so much? If they build 60-100 houses in the site it will only improve the local area, bring more money into the town etc...

Reply Posted by LV on Wednesday June 26 2013 at 08:13
I think the same should be done with this building as was done with the old college site on Huddersfield Road, it's a lovely building and shouldn't be knocked down for some modern shacks to be thrown up, if the building is structurally sound why waste that???

Reply Posted by biscuit on Wednesday June 26 2013 at 08:21
Why dont they turn it into apartments or flats?still keep the historty n get more moneys from it...2birds 1stone

Reply Posted by Tony on Wednesday June 26 2013 at 09:00
I live in Penistone and went to Penistone Grammer in the 70s, Penistone's infrastruture has not been improved in anyway since the 70s to facilitate all these new houses, Unlike most other areas on the outskirts of Barnsley many new link roads have been built to enable cars/vans/trucks to avoid villages and towns if they need to, Penistone is and has been for a number of years an absolute nightmare to get into and out of at certain times of day, There is no parking in Pensitone itself except for Tesco customers (officially), cars are parked on both sides of many streets making driving around Penistone just to get home a nightmare (god forbid a fire engine needed to get down Ward Street/Victoria Street and many other streets after 5pm.Obviously something needed to be done with this Building but they could have sold it on the proviso it was redeveloped, They are already planning to build houses on other land on the same road, So another 60-80+ cars to add to the mayhem.....