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Stately Home Owners Ask For £100m To Cover Mining Damage

Thursday May 9 2013


Mining subsidence: Wentworth Mining subsidence: Wentworth


THE owners of a South Yorkshire stately home have asked for more than £100 million to cover the repairs caused by mining.

Wentworth Woodhouse, the UK’s largest private stately home, is in the area of the prolific Barnsley seam.

The historic building, six miles north of Sheffield between Barnsley and Rotherham, has a frontage some 70m longer than that of Buckingham Palace, covers an enormous area of more than 2.5 acres and is set in extensive grounds.

Much of the estate was used for open-cast mining, which came right up to the edge of the main lawn.

The land surrounding the house is dominated by deep mine shafts, and this, its owners claim, is causing part of the building to sink.

The building's owners, brothers Marcus and Giles Newbold, are seeking compensation that's likely to be in excess of £100 million from the Coal Authority.

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Reply Posted by David on Thursday May 9 2013 at 11:22
Surely they must have had a survey done before buying the property. Everyone else who buy a property has to have checks done to see if they are wasting their money.

Reply Posted by AHR on Thursday May 9 2013 at 11:27
Probably built from profits made on the blood and sweat of miners past.

Reply Posted by LV on Thursday May 9 2013 at 11:37
David, it's more than likely tgat the brother's inherited the property rather than bought it, these sorts of properties tend to stay within the family. I could be wrong but this often tends to be the case.

Reply Posted by David on Thursday May 9 2013 at 11:50
It was bought as a private house in 1999 for £1.5 million by an architect from Highgate in London. Surely considering the history surrounding the property he would have to take into account for mining work. I understand the property is magnificent but does that make this claim right? If I bought a house without a survey and then cracks appeared in the walls from subsidence then who would be at fault...Me. Not only that but what about insurance.

Reply Posted by redref on Thursday May 9 2013 at 11:56
Manny Shinwell, the then Labour Party’s Minister of Fuel and Power, instructed open cast mining in the mid 1940’s. It became the largest open cast mining site in Britain with 132,000 tons of coal mined. Shinwell’s intent on destructing the Fitzwilliam’s and “the privileged rich”, ordered the mining right up to its back door. Mining 99 acres of lawns and woods, formal gardens and the show-piece pink shale driveway, debris was piled 50ft high in front of the family’s living quarters causing structural damage, and is the reason today why it has become unsafe.

Reply Posted by Barnsley blade on Monday May 13 2013 at 20:44
Wikipedia is a very dangerous thing in the hands of the unedcated

Reply Posted by Mick on Thursday May 9 2013 at 14:08
I hope this claim is laughed out of whatever court they end up taking it to. The property is privately owned and was bought for next to nothing because of the state it was in. IF compensation were paid then the property should be taken into public ownership.

Reply Posted by magz on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 20:51
I was at wentworth woodhouse in september helping with the 1st car show they had, had in years, we thought we were doing this for charities, how wrong were me and my fellow classic car owners...............there was over £30.000 made on the day and what did the family put it in their own pockets, so to me they can spend some of that on getting the house back up to scratch, never again will i or my friends be duped by the rich

Reply Posted by andy s on Thursday May 9 2013 at 17:28
kick these southern inbred monkeys back down south and gi em nowt

Reply Posted by Ade on Saturday May 11 2013 at 18:37
I'm sure if the brothers have a word with a couple of MPs from all parties. I'm sure they will be able to give them some tips to get something for not.

Reply Posted by Cathy on Sunday May 12 2013 at 20:06
I don't think they'll get a penny.

They knew exactly what they were buying when they bought it. Local mining is well documented, they knew work was carried out very close to the actual building, but mining was never allowed under the house or Wentworth Church.

They should not get a penny in my opinion, they bought it for a song and it's up to them to maintain and restore it. Big properties have big mouths and its up to them to find the money.

There is no public money for private properties like this and the country is in such a dire financial state.I think they are very cheeky even asking for financial compensation!
I hope it can be saved from ruin, but private money will have to do it.

Reply Posted by mr august.. on Monday May 13 2013 at 16:44
think they should pay up as the miners are no longer here.. but the house is... get out of the past and let go... the unions shut the pits not any one else.. get over it... stately homes need saving and why not.. get some off dole in area.. and make em re build it...

Reply Posted by guesty Mcguest on Tuesday May 14 2013 at 08:57
What an idiot, thats right the unions shut the mines..... Go read then come back.

Anyone that buys any property in Barnsley gets a survey done, on the surveys there is always highlighted in the risk factor possible mining subsidence, its then up to the buyer and seller to decide whats best.

Reply Posted by jay on Monday May 13 2013 at 16:47
i agree wholeheartedly with all the above comments they knew what they were buying the skanking b......s

Reply Posted by Debbie on Monday May 13 2013 at 17:42
They bought the house from Rotherham Council and are trying to restore it to it's former glory to open it up to the public. It's a beautiful house and I for one knowing the history of the house cannot wait.

Reply Posted by magz on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 20:53
the house is already open for visitors and has been since september, i was there the day they opened

Reply Posted by les on Monday May 13 2013 at 18:46
Then you pay for it.
Its a dump why do you think it was sold cheap you imagine if everyone in the country claimed money for subsidence caused by mines and built a new house and more out of a ruin........

Reply Posted by Lee on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 11:32
Its a dump?? Not exactly true. Have a look at the BBC documentary about the house. Just do a youtube search for Wentworth Woodhouse and you'll find it.
Its a very important house from a historical POV. An absolute gem of which South
Yorkshire should be proud. Have a look into the history of the Fitzwilliam family and you'll realise just how important they were in the 18th-19th century. They did much to form the modern world, and we're loved and respected by all the thousands of people employed by them.
RE the mining compensation - they have got a point. Its true Manny Shinwell was determined to do all he could to destroy the 'privileged rich' or at least cause them the most discomfort he could. There was absolutely no reason to opencast at Wentworth except to satisfy his own vendetta against aristocracy. Under his direction the beautiful grounds and driveway were destroyed. Its a fact that the open cast mine was deliberately planned to go right up to the back door... just to upset the earl and destroy his home. Although in many ways I agree with the 'sold as seen' argument I think its only right that the government admit to what they did and compensate accordingly. The house needs saving and opening up for us all to enjoy. Shame the national trust didn't want it.

Reply Posted by mark on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 19:05
100 mil..ya having a laff

Reply Posted by Robert on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 19:07
Knock it down and put a TESCO there..

Reply Posted by Cherry on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 19:28
If the coal authority have a spare 100 million knocking aound then they want to utilise it to pay the poor ex miners out who have significantly reduced lung capacity or to the family's of the already deceased miners as compensation for having to do a shit of a job digging coal underground just to feed a family.Never mind you idiots stating people should move on and forget about the mining industry, the fact is that due to the mining industry collapse Barnsley and the surrounding areas has never fully recovered and this has now affected the next generation and Barnsley remains still a poor socio economic area.If lord Fontelroy and his toff brother had the brass to buy this old shack in the first place then either let them go running to papa for a loan or get off there lazy ponce arses and work for a living like the res of us have to

Reply Posted by Andy on Wednesday May 15 2013 at 21:04
You know what .. I think it would be money well spent ... It's a crying shame it's not open to the public any more. It could be seen as a good investment should public funds be invested , look how much chatsworth dies for Derbyshire ... Seems yet again that the backward twisted folk who hark back to when king coal was ruling the country look at such a place as being part of a upperclass elite instead of an opportunity to create something special in southyorks.. Only have to look at how busy wentworth village and garden centre is .. £100miillion investment sounds like a good bet .. Bring on a business plan eh ???

Reply Posted by Chris on Thursday May 16 2013 at 23:55
It should be fully restored as a memorial to maggie anne